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  1. Man canadiens27, what is your love fest with the dems and all the CNN media?  Turning a blind eye to the lefts shortcomings is no better than what you see going on on the right.  It's actually hilarious looking at how few news stories have ever been shared between CNN and fox, they both hammer away to death on stories that make the other side look bad while completely ignoring or downplaying the stuff happening that makes their side look bad.   It's just a big stupid game really and I feel a little sorry for people that can't accept that their side ain't perfect.  Look at all the gun violence and cop hating going on.  Church burnings in Canada.  People getting arrested and released just to make more victims again.  There's more bad out there than the orange buffoon and you seem obsessed! 

    Not an attack on you, just an observation based on your political posts.

  2. 56 minutes ago, Regis22 said:

    He also signed for 2 years . He’s 36 .  As the season goes on we would complain he’s stealing as spot from a younger player.  It is what it is 

    I'd agree with you with nearly all the aging vets the habs have taken in and played in place of youngsters except this one instance with perry.  At worst we could have waived or traded him if the time came to do it.  This ain't like romanov being benched in favor of the guys that replaced him (and all the prospects over the years that struggled to stay with the big league team), perry was still really useful and didn't make a peep during the times his minutes and games were being managed.  He played his way into the lineup like everyone should and was cheap.  And it doesn't change the fact that the young guys will continue to be led with a short leash.  Always lots of bargain bin stuff available.

  3. 2 minutes ago, claremont said:

    SOBeeatch  - bring back Subban at partial salary retention - at least he donates to the hospital! Savard-Alzner is going to irritate me - Suter seems like a better bargain 

    Ya both those wouldn't be bad.  At least subban can skate with the puck.  Be nice to know how many players have montreal on their list of places they'd not like to play.

  4. 25 minutes ago, H_T_L said:

    For the record,,,, none of your posts were removed. The debate has been pretty much within forum rules so far. Only a few posts were removed for getting a little personal with other members views, otherwise it's been pretty respectful. 

    It's certainly been refreshing to see different points of view expressed in a civil manner as you've alluded to. :)

    Yeah I knew none of mine were removed.  I just figured since your warning was given soon after one of my longer posts that there may have been some replys to me that were a little personal. 

  5. 5 minutes ago, BigTed3 said:

    I'll take that a step further... if Mailloux turns out to be a star, people will be even more willing to overlook what he did. Look at Roethliesberger, Matthews, Kane, etc. The more famous you far, the more important you are, the richer you are, the more you can get away with. Now imagine this was a 17 year-old ethnic minority from a poor background. Much higher chance he would have been run through the mud. Much higher chance someone would have made an example of him. Or imagine he was that poor kid applying for a job at the local supermarket or as busboy or a cleaning person or so on and his future employer found out he had this recent conviction hanging over him. Are we honestly going to say that his potential employer would have overlooked it and pretended it never happened the way the Habs just did? That they would have claimed there was no one comparable to do the job? I'll call BS on that. The Habs did what was best for the Habs. They're not looking to promote values or take the path of what's ethically correct. And they know full well that there's a separate set of rules for them and hockey players as there is for the rest of society.

    I think that the way society and the media is run these days that he would have not had any worse treatment if he were a poor person of color.  There's no way the nhl would have went further with the current political climate, maybe 20 years ago.

  6. 16 minutes ago, Capital Habs Fan said:

    Donald Trump is proof that we never even came close to eliminating racism, sexism, and the notion that white, straight, Christian males are superior to everybody else. All we did was bury them and Donald Trump allowed them to come back into the mainstream.

    The NHL at its most basic is a business, where the product is a game and where the only measure of success at that game is winning. Virtually all of the awards handed out are for teams winning divisions, conferences or being the last team standing at the end and for individual player achievements that contributes to that goal. I think only two of those individual awards are for doing good work that does not involve winning something. That should be a good indication of where the league's priorities lie. Other professional sports leagues have the same priorities which is why they will often look the other way when a player does something that could be considered outside the norms of appropriate behaviour. 

    As for the answer to your last question the answer is an unqualified yes. If the Habs were to hire a unilingual anglophone coach or GM the backlash would be widespread, persistent and it would reach the highest levels. The anger it would generate from francophones would be visceral. Contrast that to the drafting of Mr. Mailloux. The usual suspects have expressed their outrage but ask the "man on the street" what they think about it and that outrage would probably be more muted. This time next week no one will be talking about him or the fact the Habs drafted him anymore.

    Ha, do white straight Christian males have a monopoly on bias and hatred or something?  Bias, hatred, whatever-ism are human traits that is and always will be a part of the human mind.  Just look around the world and you'll find it everywhere!  Going to the other extreme wont stomp it out because you can't control how people think, you can only persuade with talk and action.  Donald trump is an idiot but biden ain't any better!  They're both touchy feely creepy old men.

    Talk about off topic, but I had to reply.

  7. One thing that's good is we can all have a discussion and debate about stuff, disagreements and all, and not have it spiral into anger and hatred.  I know the mods or admin had some work to do in this thread (wouldn't doubt if something was directed at me, would almost like to know for a laugh) but the vast majority of talk on this forum is really great.  I like hearing others opinions on things, helps with figuring out my stance on a subject.

    There really arn't many places online (or in real life for that matter) that you can have civilized debate on contentious issues anymore so thanks everyone for that!

  8. 1 hour ago, campabee82 said:

    Ted, I don't see how drafting a player, is the same as condoning his actions. We can argue all night about why the Habs shouldn't have picked Mailloux or the optics of how this looks but by doing so we are forgetting that this is a private matter that was settled in court by the kid pleading guilty and paying his court imposed fine. Who are we to say that this fine was or wasn't enough of a punishment? Who are we to say that the shame and guilt and embarrassment that both these young people are going to deal with for the foreseeable future isn't enough of a punishment? No one is saying that they condone what the kid has done. The only thing we are saying is that he has paid his dues and deserves the chance to move on with his life just as his victim has those same rights. He will continue to pay his dues through the curse of social media and the vengeance of society. However even a person sent to prison for bank robbery once released is considered to have paid his debt and is allowed to move on with their life. Why shouldn't this kid be afforded the same rights as a former bank robber? He plead guilt and owned up to his transgression. He didn't try to fight it or desensitize it he owned it. He paid the fine and apologized to his victim (a short apology is still better than no apology. Plus we don't know why it was so short perhaps it is because he was embarrassed and genuinely regretted his actions). The Canadiens are as good of an organization as any to help turn this young man's life around and help put him on the right path for success not only in hockey but also in life itself. Also they are one of the very few organizations in the league that have the ability to help the victim as well both through Financial resources and through their numerous therapists and counselors employed by or retained by the organization. My hope and belief is that both these young people will receive the help they need to move forward from the Canadiens.

    This, and I feel the nature of the crime doesn't warrant the overreaction that seems to be in vogue for news sites and commentators now.  It's like they're talking about a roving sexual predator.  If this was any kind of assault or worse I'd totally be on board with him getting railroaded.  The fact that he's been convicted of a crime and getting the negative treatment he mostly deserves shows how far we've come as society in the past 20 or even 10 years.  I never heard of anything like this when I played minor hockey but it wouldn't have surprised me back then (mid/late 90s).  It would never had made it to the cops though, nevermind the local news.  

    About comparisons, they don't excuse the offense but it does let us get a feel as to how bad something is.  He didn't share the picture with the whole world or try to sell it or do anything even worse.  And as already said, he's paid for it and will continue to pay dearly for a long time.

    I do feel that it's a gamble hockey wise in that he may be damaged goods now.  Not saying he's a victim at all but he's gonna be dragging this around for a while.  Its also obviously a gamble in hoping the damage done to the brand is minimal while hoping the news cycles on to something else.

    Also I wonder if people think that the teams that didn't even interview him did so from some moral high ground?  They felt they had more to lose than gain, and if anything felt that in staying away they gained the optics of good morality.  They felt they would have taken on the damage that Mailloux has done to himself if they gave him any of their time (and obviously the habs have at this point).

    Who knows, in the end this may have been a terrible business move but maybe not.

    And finally I know there's a victim in all this.  She was humiliated, had her privacy breached, trust taken advantage of, and used for a quick ego boost by an immature arrogant a-hole.  Said a-hole was a minor at the time and that's suppose to be taken into account.  I know our justice system does, I'd imagine swedens does too.  I feel and hope that she will 100% recover from this.  Let's also hope that this now young man can better himself as both a hockey player and a person because for better or worse he's a habs prospect now!

  9. The kid says himself that he apologized to her and her family and is going through councilling and was convicted of his crime.  I think Marc has made worse moves than this.  Lots of people acting like this was sexual assault, calling it a sex crime.  There are degrees of wrong ya know!  From the habs side they should have waited till next round if they really wanted to get him.  

  10. I understand that what the kid did is really wrong but so many people are reacting as if it was the sex act itself that was non consensual.  Everything these days seems to be taken to one extreme or another with no rational middle ground.  One person even tweeted that "this is the proof that cancel culture doesn't exist"...  people are crazy.  Gutsy move but may pan out and it sounds like he still may have went in second round to someone else.

  11. I wonder how long a brand new team can suck before it gets tough to fill seats or move merchandise.  Surely the novelty will wear off at some point if they're bottom feeders.  Would also like to know just how much of a hockey market it is in Washington state.

  12. Also I really thought drouins situation would have been cleared up soon after playoffs with him waiting till then so it wouldn't be a distraction for the team, but before the draft. We've been getting info on prices and Webers injuries.  There's a ton of uncertainty right now with this team, really hard to figure what's going to happen

  13. God, what a joke.  Comparing trump and his fans to Hitler and his SA is laughable.  America today and Germany back then are two different worlds.  The SA were a trained militia style group with leadership and organization that were only allowed to exist in the first place because Germany was in such chaos in the years following defeat in the great war.  There were armed divisions of many of the different political groups back then.   What you had in the states was a march on the capitol by a bunch of disorganized trump fanboys and extremists mixed in.  No way in hell is there anywhere in the west that's broken to the point of allowing anything close to the nazis rise again.  

    That's the standard of today I guess, exaggerated claims by the media and their loyal followers eating it all up and spewing it back out.


  14. Man, as much as trump is a lying idiot Joe ain't any better.  They are both assholes, just in different ways.  It's funny to see the continuing obsession with trump when he hasn't been president for how many months now?  There's plenty to talk about with the biden administration, you know the one that's in power right now.  The last two american elections have got to be some of the worst in American history for choices to vote for.  I remember when trump stopped being as available to the media as he had been and CNN and others were all over him.  Now the only time you here anything about the total lack of un-vetted questions for Joe is from fox News.  He can't handle on the spot questions at all, and rarely ever gives answers to any hard questions.

    I've never been a trump fan.  I dont think I need to list all his shortcomings as a leader or even a human being as they are self evident if you just watch and listen.  I implore any biden lovers to watch old Joe with the same kind of scrutiny.  He's a bumbling moron who just plays whatever side he can to be in power.  Look at his history of the kind of laws he's backed. He was all for the tough on crime, war on drugs, and three strike laws that helped the u.s.a get to where it has with the largest prison population in the world.  I have no problem with locking up violent criminals and predators for a long time but there has been a ton of people (especially blacks) put in jail for drug offenses.  He also worked closely and was friends with pro segregationist Strom thurmond.

    I dont trust or hold any stock in any politician.  Most are power and money hungry jerks that just want to put their mark on a society and will do and say anything to get the chance to do so.

    Trump let right wing extremists off the hook, biden does the exact same thing with far left wing nuts (they do exist, just watch the kind of shit that has been allowed to happen on the west coast in Seattle and Portland).  With the dems in power now the USA has to watch for the further left of the party and the ties they have with certain communist leaders in the world like in Venezuela and Cuba.  

    We need good solid leadership in all the western world that is based on reason, facts, and reality.  Sorry about jumping around in this rant, I just feel like we're in the beginning of something bad in Canada and the USA.  This hard swing between left and right is not healthy, I feel that it's actually getting dangerous.  Now it's all slogans, ideology, a dismissal of different point of views and really not much good honest debate.  I believe that most of us are still rational people but I've seen enough of the people around me swing hard one way or the other to cause real concern.


    “It doesn’t matter whether or not they’re the victims of society,” Mr. Biden said in 1993, adding, “I don’t want to ask, ‘What made them do this?’ They must be taken off the street.”



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