Report 2021-22 State of the Habs in General Habs discussion Posted October 17 I think you are arguing from different perspectives. There are some who want to make the playoffs every year no matter how so they rather take the safe route with the veterans. You know what you get but there is little upside left. The chance that they become better is smaller than the chance that these players regress over time. In the end it also means that your team has some kind of upper limit it can reach. You shouldnt forget that last season was an outlier not the normal. It is not like the NFL where you have all or nothing games in the playoffs. Over 7 games it is much more probable that skill/the better team prevails. Others want to win the cup and realize with the material on hand you wont do that. They rather want to see the unproven players and which upside they can provide going forward. Arguably their chance of getting better is higher than that they regress. It is a more risky route which could lead to not making the playoffs but if you are right you might reach the promised land mid/-longterm. I didnt know anything about icehockey when the Habs won their last cup. I joined the bandwaggon during the dark years around the millenium. The first highlight was when Theodore had his good time with us. Unfortunately there also not many early Habs games so I have to ***** up my sleeping schedule to watch a game. I did so last night and there was very little to get excited about. Besides Suzuki and Caufield there arent many players I would tune in to watch them like I would do just for the sake of watching how Stützle, Seider or Draisaitl do. So the safer way of going with the vets right now is not very appealing and watchable. Seeing defenders in the attacking zone dumping the puck along the boards to nobody behind the net when there are 2-3 other Habs forwards is just infuriating. We lost too many pucks far too quickly again. I wouldnt have a problem with young guys making mistakes but I have a problem with vets making too many of them because in the end I know there probably isnt much progress to expect going forward anyway.