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  1. Thing is, it's not a terrible contract. It gives us flexibility in the short term so that we don't have to rush Galchenyuk, and it allows us to use Eller in a variety of roles (on the wing, top-six or top-nine, etc.) situationally. If we decide it's time to trade him, the cap hit isn't going to scare other teams off. I envision Bergevin trading Desharnais in the second or third year of the contract, when the term has dwindled a bit and a team in need of some secondary scoring punch might be interested in his services.

    The one thing about this contract: it's weird to lock up a guy who's not necessarily essential to a four-year deal but insist that your star d-man only sign a two-year deal...

    I instantly thought of Subban. One of my buddies brought up an excellent point: the holdout might have been the catalyst PK needed to come out and prove people wrong. He was humbled by the process and might be eager to prove his worth. I've been saying for months that PK is our best defenseman and will be for the future but we are now entering an impending game of high stakes poker that could have been avoided had the brass locked him up. His counterpoint was PK is probably playing up to his potential now because he feels the need to prove himself and seek the big contract in 2 years.

    I just don't see the hurry to sign DD in season. I honestly don't see him being built for the playoffs or the road. He has zero pp points on the road this year and gets tons of minutes. I don't see the need to rush this deal and the term of it. He has not played in a playoff game in his current role, wouldn't you want to see his true value in those games before giving out a long term deal?

    Furthermore, we have depth and potential at the position. As I said, this deal means we either have to surround DD with our best 2 wingers for the next 4 years or find a way to trade him in 2 years. Somebody compared his deal to Grabovski but my gut is thinking Matthew Lombardi at this point. I hope I am wrong but I really don't like the way this deal includes DD in our top 6 core moving forward.

  2. Am I the only one that doesn't like this signing?

    I don't like the term and I don't like what it says about his role on the team. This deal means MB thinks DD is a top 6-9 guy he can roll with for 4 more years. I have a problem with that. I don't understand the thought process. He's not a guy that's going to exceed what he did last season, he's a 60 point scorer when surrounded by the 2 best big wingers the Habs have had in 20 years. The only pair to score 30 each in a season. I don't see how you can expect him to produce at this level moving forward particularly since that means Eller will not get a chance at a top 6 slot nor Galchenyuk or they certainly will not get the best wingers since DD needs them to have any value. I just don't understand the length or timing of the deal.

  3. The original question was to win it all this season I believe:

    Turn Brian Gionta into David Clarkson

    Turn Raphael Diaz into Douglas Murray

    Pacioretty Desharnais Gallagher

    Bourque Plekanec Ryder

    Galchenyuk Eller Clarkson

    Moen Nokelainen Prust

    Murray Subban

    Markov Emelin

    Gorges Bouillon


    I have no idea how MB could pull that off but I think that's the required upgrade needed to be legit contenders this season, otherwise I agree we stay the course and use this season and playoffs as bonus development and evaluation time.

  4. I think people also fail to realize that a shooter retains his shot a lot longer than a hard skating power forward retains his legs.

    So a 32 year old Ryder has a much better chance at 3-4 more productive seasons than a 34 year old Cole does having even 2 more.

    Ryder can likely sign score 20 goals at 35-36, Cole will not.

    Smart deal financially and hockey wise

  5. I think if you watch his play, he has been on the puck and creating chances, players like him tend to score 3 goals in 5 games and then start getting praised for great seasons. If he stops getting chances that's when you worry but I see him around the puck and slot and his line as a whole has been productive.

  6. The schedule has helped with all the home games and the return of Markov makes the PP better but the traces of old Michel were evident in the way he handled White in the media and his ice-time division for the defense corps is not a strong suit, so is his insistence on including Colby Armstrong.

    All in all, 9-4-1 leads to a positive grade that is more than just passing. Also, his use of the Gallys needs to be complimented as does getting Eller some special teams time.

    I have to give him a B.

  7. I liked White sticking up for Gorges but I really thought that was a stupid play. Like it or not, the instigator rule is a rule, and you have to account for it. If Fleishmann stood up and fought, then by all means fight him, but pummelling someone who's turtling is a great way to get slapped with a potentially game-changing penalty.

    Agree with it being a needless penalty and PP. On the flip side, it was 4-1, Gorges got hit from behind and it was nice to see someone wearing a CH punch first and not be the one turtling. Prust, Soupy and all have said they want the Bell center visitors to be put in notice that this isn't your sisters Habs. I think Fleishman knows that now.

    Also TF was mixing it up with White just previous to the hit and for the record he is 6'1" 195lbs, Ryan is 6/200. Not exactly Parros vs Plekanec.

  8. Just an insightful and mature hockey player speaking his mind and sharing his frustrations. He's been a full time Dad for 6 months and his words reflect that. My respect for him actually went up. When Hockey starts back up and he gets his fire back, this will be looked at as an off the cuff remark.

    He's not walking away this year since the school year already started and by summer his wife and him will discuss 8 million reasons why he should still play. These comments make him human, you know because he is after all just a hockey playing family man.

  9. I am trying to rebuild my enthusiasm for the Habs. Since this is usually my favorite thread here it goes:

    Pac - DD - Cole

    short season means familiarity is a must.

    Eller - Plekanec - Gionta

    These are our 3 next best players and they all play 2 ways.

    Bourque - Gomez - Armstrong

    Hopefully Colby can get these floaters out of the clouds.

    Prust White Moen

    Crash and bang. Moen can swap with Colby or Bourque occasionally.

    Gorges - Subban

    See top line for reasoning.

    Markov - Emelin

    Makes sense on paper and off the ice.

    Kaberle - Bouillon

    Simply hoping franky still has something left and Kabs can still make a breakout pass better than Diaz.



    Spares: Diaz, Blunden

    This is going to be a transition season. I simply feel that waiting until Gomez and Kaberle are bought out and we have a full summer with training camps is the right time to infuse the new blood and hope that comes with it.

    Galchenyuk should play 25 minutes a game in Junior and hopefully a long playoff run, come into camp ready for the number 2 center spot and Dumont will grab a depth center spot along with a serious look at Gallagher up front.

    On D either Tinordi, Beaulieu or Ellis might be ready with another 4 months in the Ahl and a full summer.

    I just think a short season is tailored for veterans and poorly conducive to the patience necessary to develop good young players. The Habs are in the midst of turning over their core and this season is kind of bonus hockey while awaiting the gift that is the amnesty clause.

  10. I am 100% opposed to Gally starting the year with the habs.

    Financially and fundamentally it makes no sense. We're not going to be good, were up against the cap and Gally is a year behind in development.

    1- Wait until Gomez is amnestied in the summer.

    2- Let him play major minutes in junior while putting on more muscle.

    3- Bring him in to center the second line in 2013-14.

    I'm not really sure why this isn't obvious to all. This is a short transition season and ill be surprised if we do anything but battle for an 8th spot with or without Gally. Lets not ruin another prospect especially one who actually has legit talent.

  11. 2 things. 1. Gionta is no shut down guy, hes 5'6" or 7". He can kill penalties because he is one of a few right hand shots on the team and speed can kill penalties, but he does NOT go up against crosby and Giroux at any point of a game.

    2. The young players will flourish under Therian's coaching, LeBlanc is being moulded into a shut down guy, plus he 6 ft tall and prob. close to 200 lbs. I was thinking of a shut down line actually when I mentioned Eller-Pleks-LeBlanc line, LeBlanc would be a nice fit with the two I think.

    Peoples hatred for gomez is blocking their hockey vision

    Gionta is our second best RW behind Cole. He's a good all-around hockey player that can produce twenty goals while playing responsible hockey, from a "hockey vision" standpoint that's sounds like an ideal fit for Plekanec wing. Gomez has nothing to do with the fact that Gionta and Pleks make hockey sense as a duo.

    Again, we just see the game differently. I don't agree with you and you don't with me, let's just leave it there.

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