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  1. 22 minutes ago, electron58 said:

    Maybe the moral of this saga is, get your RFA's locked up early. 

    Ok but what if you've got an RFA who is asking for too much money? It happens all the time - players go all the way to arbitration.   I have no idea what JK's camp was looking for but what if he wouldnt accept less than $4.5m  You cant be forced into taking a deal that doesnt make sense and you cant expect an OS like that crazy thing Carolina dropped. 

  2. 19 minutes ago, claremont said:

    There’s been a number of KHL d-men that have had success there but they have not translated to NHL success on their comeback or entry. Wideman despite some NHL experience and his taped critique of the Sens coaching staff prior to his departure, IMO he faces an uphill battle. Virtually certain Romanov is way ahead of him on the depth chart. 

    I would agree with that. IMHo the team looks at it like:


    This could of course change at training camp (And I personally dont rank them quite like that) and of course guys like Brook or Norlinder or even Guhle (who apparently is having a strong rookie camp) could change some minds... 

  3. On 8/26/2021 at 5:15 PM, ramcharger440 said:

    Such a short off season this year I hope he has had enough time to recharge! he is young but it has been a lot mentally too for a young guy starting out he has not even played to a full house at home yet! they are going to love him!


    On 8/26/2021 at 8:14 PM, electron58 said:

    CC lives for the big stage.  None bigger than Montreal. I think any chance he gets, he's doing something hockey related. He's going to thrive! I can't wait! The potential for some of the players on this team is thru the roof. CC will lead the way. It's in his blood. It's been forever, since we had a player with so much hype. The real deal.


    I knew he was a great player obviously but what really surprised/shocked me (in the playoffs especially) was just how good he is overall.   I was thinking we were getting a mike cammaleri type shooter - and he is - but man he's so much more than that.  Teams shied away from him for his size but otherwise, this guy is a legit top 3 pick. He's that mature already.   He's got incredible vision - its not just his shot he is going to be an offensive force with his passing and i was amazed at how good his defensive positioning is already.

  4. 6 hours ago, BigTed3 said:

    We might, but I don't think it's a given. He's been out of the NHL and he was signed to a low-salary contract where we can bury him in the minors without any concern for our salary cap. So you look at guys like Campoli, Gustafsson, etc. and he might just be an offensive option they have available but one where the coaches aren't a fan of his defensive play. I think he'll have to fight for a job, I don't think it's a given he's getting a starting spot. If they send Romanov down, it'll be for his development and Wideman will be a placeholder. If Romanov performs well at camp, I think he's ahead of Wideman on the depth chart.

    Wideman is a more complete defensman than Gus from what ive seen but i agree, he's likely right at the bottom of our depth chart for Dmen.  They most likely wont hesitate to put him on waivers if need be and they likely wouldnt stress too much if he was claimed.

    It will be interesting to see how he does at camp. At 30 (or whatever he is) he isnt likely to get a lot better but it will be interesting to see how his KHL stats translate into the NHL.  I think he might end up on our opening night roster but i sure hope he's supplanted by Brook. No offense to him, but Brook is the guy with the long term potential. 


  5. 18 minutes ago, arpem-can said:

    ...he couldn't control an OS by Carolina that was ridiculous , completely overpriced and vindictive from the get go ....otherwise he matches 

    This is an important point.

    By all accounts that was an OS worth roughly 3x what every GM in the league thinks JK is worth.    I understand why/how Carolina did it and it may well work for them (if they then follow this up with a long term deal with a much lower cap hit) but its quite possible JK wouldnt extend the same offer to the habs if he was upset & that means what, qualifying offer at $5.1-6.1m?   MB would have to (legitimately) worry about whether JK would accept the same (next) deal to stay with us and if he didn't live up to that $6.1m deal (how could he at this stage) what sort of affect would the fans have on him & his development? If people were getting fed up at $900k... can you imagine the bell centre with him making $6.1m?

    Had someone come in with a legit offer like $3m he would have matched as you mentioned.  Even $4m x multi year, he takes that but $6.1?  It was an unexpected offer. Im not MB fan but that's an offer that no one could have legitimately planned for & we have no idea what Kotkaniemi's camp was looking for in a bridge deal so you cant really say "he should have signed him before it came to that" 

  6. 1 hour ago, HabsAlways said:

    Still choked they let KK go ... the only way this gets salvaged is if somehow Poehling out develops his expectations

    Agree. There may not have been a space for Poehling to really get the ice time and linemates so maybe this will end up being a blessing... if he can perform. 

    1 hour ago, HabsAlways said:

    I think KK has a break out year, and puts up decent numbers now that he's away from the toxic management

    I actually think he's going to struggle this year.  I still believe he has the potential to break out but i dont think it will be this year. 

  7. More curious info on JD.

    He is apparently now NOT giving the big 1 on 1 interview with Chantal Machabee.   Someone on twitter asked her if there was a connection between the cancelled interview (its been removed from RDS's schedule) and a possible trade, she said "No link, i will explain the situation soon."  

    So thats 2 or 3 fairly reputable media sources saying something is "up" with Drouin one way or another... some speculate there's a trade, others say no. He was skating (Today I think?) but its definitely odd.... 

  8. 3 hours ago, BigTed3 said:

    - He says the Habs wanted Harris signed but that the "CBA gives those types of players options" and that Harris is exercising his options. Says he would like to see him in Montreal in the future but it's out of the team's control. Sounds like the team might feel Harris doesn't want to sign here.

    If there are concerns, id be trying to use him as part of a package deal in a trade.   Alone, he wont bring much, but he could add substantial value to a team that trades us, say, a young puck moving defensman as he would be a bit of insurance for them.  I really like Harris but only the team knows if he's a flight risk. Its possible he just really wants to finish his schooling. Some guys do. 

  9. 3 hours ago, BigTed3 said:

    I think the best we can hope for with what DD might consider is that he doesn't put Chiarot and Savard together and that we get something like Ed-Petry, Chiarot-Romanov, Norlinder-Savard.


    Edmundson - Petry is basically a 100%.  

    I am almost positive they try Chiarot Savard together which is a big mistake him.  Im hopeful they will mix & match.  Wideman is still a wildcard imho.  Really curious what he brings.   Positionally, Brook probably has the best chance.

    I think the team sees Edmundson, Chiarot and Romanov as locks on LD.  They see Petry and Savard as locks on RD but there's a position there for either Wideman, Brook or someone playing their off side.

    I think they would make room for Norlinder (unfortunately at the expense of Romanov most likely) if he absolutely blew them away but that would be unlikely at this point. 


  10. 36 minutes ago, BigTed3 said:

    Drouin back skating today at team facilities for the first time in months. Despite this, Big Georges Laraque stated that he knows what information David Ettedgui has and that "knowing what David knows, he wouldn't plan on Drouin being in the line-up to start the season either." So still completely unclear what is going on, but now multiple sources telling us to expect Drouin will not be with the Habs or not be ready for opening day. Has he asked for a trade? Is he still in therapy/rehab? Is he injured?organization.

    Very very odd.  The announced press conference on the 20th too... certainly feels like something is brewing but who knows what. 


    36 minutes ago, BigTed3 said:

     Can't help but think this has been one of the worst off-seasons in Habs history... Weber, Danault, Tatar, Kotkaniemi, Fleury, Perry all gone. Byron out long-term. Drouin maybe not ready or back at all. Price not clearly ready to start the year either. Joel Bouchard leaving mysteriously as well. Sounds like there is some discontentment within the organization.

    Im not sure id call it one of our worst off seasons TBH.  Obviously there were some big changes but there were also big additions in Hoffman, Dvorak and Savard.  Lots of the usual tinkering (Paquettte, Perreault, Wideman) but some of those guys we lost were depth players too.  

    I think we once again failed to address our biggest need (Impact Defense - not just bodies on defense) but Im not convinced we're worse than we were last season, we're just likely not better unless guys like Suzuki, CC, Romanov take big strides or someone else (Brook, Norlinder etc) surprises at camp. 

  11. 13 hours ago, electron58 said:

    I don't think so either. If we can't get it out of our end,  we will be in trouble.  Weber & Chiarot had trouble many times,  and CP bailed them out. That's what people forget.

    Yes and no. Price was fantastic, no question, but in the playoffs, our slow, lumbering defense was more effective because of the box out.  They surrendered a lot of shots (that price stopped) but they also kept the lanes open so he could see pucks & basically changed the type of shots he was facing.  I think that some combination of Edmundson/Chiarot/Savard can do this effectively too, in the post season, but not during the regular games. 

    13 minutes ago, jennifer_rocket said:

    Regarding our D, I'm just crossing my fingers someone will surprise us in camp. Brook, Wideman, Norlinder, Romanov... If the someone can step up, and the coaching staff will make decisions based on merit instead of "experience", maybe there's a chance someone can excel in a top-four role.

    I think the bolded part is most important.   I wouldnt be surprised at all if one of the guys you listed does, in fact, "step up" but will they get a chance?   Lets say Brook comes in & is awesome - as good as we ever  hoped - then he should logically slot into the 2nd pair, behind petry, but would DD play him ahead of Savard?      We all know that Savard-Chiarot is not a great pairing on paper becaues neither are puck movers... but the coaching staff will likely still play them as our second pair.

    So while I actually think our D Corps is not as bad as it might seem, im not sure we will use it as effectively as we can or should. 

  12. 34 minutes ago, MALMACIAN_CRUNCH said:

    I think if we were to take a chance on adding another forward on a low cost contract, Bozak makes the most sense. Even then I’m not sure it’s necessary, I think we’re pretty much set, but adding a face off specialist like Bozak would be more useful than Galcenyk. 

    Pretty sure he signed with the Blues this AM. 

  13. On 9/4/2021 at 5:46 PM, BigTed3 said:

    we essentially lost a 21-year old top 3 pick with great advanced stats for nothing and downgraded some picks along the way.

    Not trying to start an argument, genuinely interested since i dont really look at advanced stats as  much as a lot of guys - were his AS really good the last 2 years? I know they were terrific in year one (he was very sheltered then) but i think the last 2 years they tapered off? but maybe im totally wrong on this one... 

  14. 15 minutes ago, electron58 said:

    Drouin & Chiarot ++ for PMD.

    We're in an interesting position with Edmundson, Chiarot and Savard being very similar players (same salaries even).   They are all quality NHLers but we need someone other than Petry to move the puck.    One of those guys, packaged with one of our excess wingers would possibly do that.   Dont know if MB would consider it but there's defintiely some assets there. 

    I would bet you could get Dunn from Seattle for a combination, they kraken may even throw in a prospect or pick. 

  15. Further Ettedgui's comments, he believes the opening night lineup will look like this:

    Tyler Toffoli - Nick Suzuki - Cole Caufield
    Mike Hoffman - Christian Dvorak - Josh Anderson
    Artturi Lehkonen - Jake Evans - Brendan Gallagher
    Mathieu Perreault - Ryan Poehling - Joel Armia

    With Drouin not playing (Traded or out indefinitely) Ettedgui believes they want Lehkonen playing on the 4th line, they would sign AG27 to play LW, 3rd line and move Perreault to the 4th line. 

    Not sure i buy it but i at least can see his reasoning. I cant see Perreault and Pacquette both being signed & then not on the roster. 

  16. 16 hours ago, BigTed3 said:

    It doesn't make a lot of sense to me. No space for Poehling, Ylonen (who might be better/cheaper than Galchenyuk even), Perreault, or Paquette in the top 12. And not enthralled by the middle of the ice, nor any addressing of the weak D corps.

    Galchenyuk would surprise me because i dont think he left on the best terms. That said, I dont think he has issues with any of the players (I think he and Gallagher are still close) which is more important than issues with the GM.  Subban, for example, might be quite useful for us (if salary is retained) but there's no way they bring him back with him and Gally being clearly not fans of each other.

    I also believe we have way too many forwards and not enough (quality) defensmen. While i think some combination of this defense corps may be ok in the playoffs (especially with "playoff price")  Im not sure they are good enough (especially based on how i think they will be deployed) to get us to the playoffs. 


    30 minutes ago, BigTed3 said:

    To add on to the above, David Ettedgui also predicts that Jonathan Drouin will not be starting the season with the Habs, despite the announcement from Bergevin that he would be ready for camp. Drouin will be doing an interview with Chantal Maccabee on September 20th, so perhaps we will get more clarity then, but the rumors circulating around Drouin include issues related to anxiety, drug use, or other personal problems. Hopefully he was able to get the help he needed and that he's able to come back healthy.

    Ive been wondering about this for some time.  Im just not sure if he has any value in a trade (or whether Ettedgui is saying he wont be playing at all).  If its anxiety or performance related stress I could see MB sticking with him but if its substance abuse or something I wouldnt be surprised at all if MB is shopping him, just no idea what you could get for him seeing as Seattle just passed him up for free. 

  17. 5 minutes ago, arpem-can said:

     There will be injuries as in every year ...that's when we'll see younger guys not named Caufileld getting their shot ...could very well be Poehling making the team out of camp ...I don't see Evans being a question mark at all ...he already showed what he's about  ..Drouin I figure will at least play to the same level or thereabouts ...I just don't have as many question marks ...the heavy defense that clears the front of the net you mentioned proved important enough in last years play-offs to merit being on the club despite criticisms  ...Romanov will step up and improve ...Wideman might surprise ...Savard will smoothly replace Weber ....I think we have a much better regular season than last with Dvorak and Hoffman ...certainly a better PP

    As good as our top 4 were in the playoffs, the regular season is a different beast and Im not convinced they will be as effective.  Also, Weber was playing some of his best hockey of the year for that stretch and Im not convinced Chiarot/Savard can be that effective. 

  18. 1 hour ago, claremont said:

    Simply put - this team is too heavy on defense with Chiarot / Savard , Edmundson and to some extent Kulak overlapping.  Romanov plays a reasonably heavy game. We need some surprise here on Brook , Wideman or Norlinder stepping up. Chiarot is on the last year of his contract and has served us well but he would be my vote to trade. 
    Usually a team has more than 1 rookie (Caufield), crack a lineup but we have a lot of question marks in Drouin, Evans, Paquette and Wideman that make it difficult to go with Ylonen, Poehling, Brook or Norlinder to make the jump 

    Im really hoping Brook makes the jump. I know he's had his stumbles but not long ago we were looking at him as one of our top D prospects.  He's only 22 and made some good strides last year under Bouchard. 

    My hope is that he was working on certain aspects of his game last season & therefore didnt have the overall stats we would have liked to have seen but will be more ready to transition to an NHL game.





  19. 38 minutes ago, jennifer_rocket said:

    Yeah, there are a few ways Montreal could maybe end up with another puck-mover on D... :ph34r: But we probably just end up playing the season with the roster as it is.

    Maybe we bring Gustafsson back. Maybe Romanov takes a step forward in development and ends up playing in the top-4. Maybe Norlinder makes the team (I know, I know... unlikely).

    This is our best hope imho.    Romanov - Savard  Chairot - Kulak/Wideman  is much better than Chiarot-Savard Romanov -Wideman/Kulak imho. 

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