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#42 Jarred Tinordi 2012-2013


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He'll still put on a few pounds I'm sure but 6'6 is pretty massive for a hockey player.

6'6 is a good height for a hockey player. He's still lanky, but not concerned about it. His father is tall and thick, I have a feeling Tinordi will eventually fill out and resemble his father.

Once he fills out and matures, it'll be nice having Emelin and Tinordi on our blueline.

was hard to see it when his linemate is a defensive liability, but Emelin imo found his stride this season. Sorry it was cut short due to an injury.

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6'6 is a good height for a hockey player. He's still lanky, but not concerned about it. His father is tall and thick, I have a feeling Tinordi will eventually fill out and resemble his father.

Once he fills out and matures, it'll be nice having Emelin and Tinordi on our blueline.

was hard to see it when his linemate is a defensive liability, but Emelin imo found his stride this season. Sorry it was cut short due to an injury.

Yup. Eventually having Tinordi, Subban, and Emelin on D for us finally gives us that mean physical dimension we've lacked. We can have one guy per pairing who can dish out thunderous hits, and that's even without considering that Gorges has a pretty good physical game too. Going forward we can look at Subban, Gorges, Emelin, Tinordi, Markov, Diaz, and Beaulieu as the "keepers", and that's a pretty solid group.

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Yup. Eventually having Tinordi, Subban, and Emelin on D for us finally gives us that mean physical dimension we've lacked. We can have one guy per pairing who can dish out thunderous hits, and that's even without considering that Gorges has a pretty good physical game too. Going forward we can look at Subban, Gorges, Emelin, Tinordi, Markov, Diaz, and Beaulieu as the "keepers", and that's a pretty solid group.

If we can reduce Marky's minutes and keep him as a PP specialist with reduced minutes at ES strength, we should be good.

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So if he is ready next year (looks like he will be, IMO), who do we have on defense?

Subban-Gorges

Diaz-Emelin

Markov-Tinordi

Boullion

No? I actually like the looks of that. Maybe we can trade somebody, but I would be hesitant to trade any of them them except Markov and maybe Gorges.

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At this point, I'd rather give him the minutes. It helps us in the long term by developing him, and he gives us a type of blueline presence we don't really have (especially with Emelin done for the year).

And its exactly why I was left scratching my head with the coach trying to replace Emelin's minutes with Weber & even Bealieu. Tinordi is the clear choice if you're replacing Emelin & what he brought to the team.

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And its exactly why I was left scratching my head with the coach trying to replace Emelin's minutes with Weber & even Bealieu. Tinordi is the clear choice if you're replacing Emelin & what he brought to the team.

I know, of all people not weber. Even when healthy he spent the better parts of 2 years in the pressbox. Then MT's coaching staff decides to place on the top pairing, with Marky-a dman with limited mobility.

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Yup. Eventually having Tinordi, Subban, and Emelin on D for us finally gives us that mean physical dimension we've lacked. We can have one guy per pairing who can dish out thunderous hits, and that's even without considering that Gorges has a pretty good physical game too. Going forward we can look at Subban, Gorges, Emelin, Tinordi, Markov, Diaz, and Beaulieu as the "keepers", and that's a pretty solid group.

Agreed. Even though rare and hard to find I'd love an Odelien type defenseman. Emelin is close but isnt able to fight so someone on the back end to help with that when the situation calls for it would be ideal.

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So if he is ready next year (looks like he will be, IMO), who do we have on defense?

Subban-Gorges

Diaz-Emelin

Markov-Tinordi

Boullion

No? I actually like the looks of that. Maybe we can trade somebody, but I would be hesitant to trade any of them them except Markov and maybe Gorges.

I'd prefer to see Subban paired with a shutdown guy with some physicality, so personally I'd prefer to see Emelin or Tinordi next to Subban. Markov is a 3rd-pairing guy, who can play with Diaz or Gorges, but I'd rather have Tinordi line up next to a guy with a bit more ability to be the general on the ice.

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Just imagine... Tinordi AND Emelin... In the lineup at the SAME TIME! :ph34r: In the future, that is.

And not on the same pairing, necessarily.

Imagine a scenario in which we are PKing and Subban is in the box. The defensemen on the ice are Tinordi and Emelin. Subban comes out of the box and Marchand is running up the neutral zone. Then he gets POUNDED by Subban's backside like always. Than Lucic takes the loose puck and picks up where Marchand left off. He goes FLYING after a hipcheck by Emelin(This time there is no reverse hit <_< ). Than Chara takes the loose puck in our zone and gets BOMBED front side by Tinordi.

I can dream right? :P

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It's sad, we use to pair up and coming young dmen with marky, he was very good at moulding them into solid dmen. Now we want to keep them away from him so they don't end up being our worst pairing. It's also not fair to them, they're trying to get use to the speed and skill at the NHL level and they have to deal with a d partner who has limited foot speed and defensive skills.

Tinordi is not the big, hulking dmen yet, he still has to fill out his frame, but it doesn't mean he can't help us in the post season. He can use his reach, he has good skating ability for a player of his height and his defensive game is decent. probably better some of our dmen who have more experience.

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Therrien and Tinordi himself said that after his first callup, that was for evaluation, he was sent down to Hamilton with a clear mandate of what to work on and to play a lot of minutes in the AHL to give him enough time to work on those details (whatever they were). This time around, Therrien told Tinordi that the call up was not for an evaluation, the roster spot is his to lose for the playoffs. He was quite pleased with the kids game last night as most of us were.

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Therrien and Tinordi himself said that after his first callup, that was for evaluation, he was sent down to Hamilton with a clear mandate of what to work on and to play a lot of minutes in the AHL to give him enough time to work on those details (whatever they were). This time around, Therrien told Tinordi that the call up was not for an evaluation, the roster spot is his to lose for the playoffs. He was quite pleased with the kids game last night as most of us were.

He did well too, thought he looked better last night. Good to see him putting in the extra work to better himself.

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So long as Tinordi doesn't get press-boxed after his first bad game. That's not how young players learn to play well. Weber, Markov, Bouillon, etc. have all had bad games and been responsible for giveaways and goals against. If we're going with Tinordi (which I think we should), I'd try to stick it out with him.

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So long as Tinordi doesn't get press-boxed after his first bad game. That's not how young players learn to play well. Weber, Markov, Bouillon, etc. have all had bad games and been responsible for giveaways and goals against. If we're going with Tinordi (which I think we should), I'd try to stick it out with him.

Agreed, it's not as if we even thought there was a chance at making the post season before the season started. Even if we get knocked out early, at least our youngins can gain some post season experience and be better for next year.

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What impressed me most the other night was how he handled one of the top power forwards in the game Evander Kane.

There will still be bumps along the way. But playing in the playoffs at the highest level in his profession will only help.

It almost got to be funny that every time Kane skated in along the boards, Tinordi made it very evident he was lining him up for a hit. He just rubbed him out and let the puck trickle into the corner on just about every rush, so much so that Kane almost stopped trying to get around him, he just let himself be taken out of the play. Obviously Tinordi still needs to gain experience, but he's one of the few guys we have who can play a shutdown role. I'm not concerned about his minutes because he's played decent minutes in junior and in Hamilton, but he'll have to adjust to a higher quality of competition. The fact that he's a big strong guy should make that easier for him than for a guy like Weber to break into the league. We all saw how well Subban did just stepping into the NHL and though I would temper my expectations for Tinordi into just playing well in his own zone, I think he can be ready to help us immediately. Even his play at the offensive blue line impressed me last game: very calm, made sure he got the puck low and on net or else he got it back in deep without having the puck blocked. Too many of our other guys (Weber, Markov, Gorges, Bouillon, even Subban) try to put the puck where there isn't a lane and it ends up costing us odd-man rushes against. If Tinordi continues to make the smart play over the high-risk, high-reward play, he'll have success.

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Our D hasn't been the greatest so I'm willing to live with this kid in the playoffs even though he's just a rookie and will make some mistakes. On the other hand, he may surprise us and play solid, stay at home defense which is just what we need. Either way, it's going to be a good learning experience for him.

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It almost got to be funny that every time Kane skated in along the boards, Tinordi made it very evident he was lining him up for a hit. He just rubbed him out and let the puck trickle into the corner on just about every rush, so much so that Kane almost stopped trying to get around him, he just let himself be taken out of the play. Obviously Tinordi still needs to gain experience, but he's one of the few guys we have who can play a shutdown role. I'm not concerned about his minutes because he's played decent minutes in junior and in Hamilton, but he'll have to adjust to a higher quality of competition. The fact that he's a big strong guy should make that easier for him than for a guy like Weber to break into the league. We all saw how well Subban did just stepping into the NHL and though I would temper my expectations for Tinordi into just playing well in his own zone, I think he can be ready to help us immediately. Even his play at the offensive blue line impressed me last game: very calm, made sure he got the puck low and on net or else he got it back in deep without having the puck blocked. Too many of our other guys (Weber, Markov, Gorges, Bouillon, even Subban) try to put the puck where there isn't a lane and it ends up costing us odd-man rushes against. If Tinordi continues to make the smart play over the high-risk, high-reward play, he'll have success.

Yup, that's what surprised me as well, his clam both in the offensive and defensive zones.

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