Big-Ted 0 Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Players who are smaller have an uphill battle trying to make the NHL roster and the same can be said for players who are younger too. If a guy who's 23 or 24 has a decent camp and a guy who's 18 or 19 displays a similar level of play, the team is going to take the 23-year old most of the time because there's an extra level of maturity and experience playing with pros. I realize Avtsin has playe din the KHL but he's still only 19 and could likely fill out his frame a bit more. I would put the odds against him making the team even with an Eller injury. I think he will get the chance to play in Hamilton and if he really blows people out of the water he'll get a chance, but the best bet is for him to get get some developmental coaching and learn the Habs system before being thrown into the Montreal fire. Link to post Share on other sites
S-Bah 0 Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Players who are smaller have an uphill battle trying to make the NHL roster and the same can be said for players who are younger too. If a guy who's 23 or 24 has a decent camp and a guy who's 18 or 19 displays a similar level of play, the team is going to take the 23-year old most of the time because there's an extra level of maturity and experience playing with pros. I realize Avtsin has playe din the KHL but he's still only 19 and could likely fill out his frame a bit more. I would put the odds against him making the team even with an Eller injury. I think he will get the chance to play in Hamilton and if he really blows people out of the water he'll get a chance, but the best bet is for him to get get some developmental coaching and learn the Habs system before being thrown into the Montreal fire. Agreed, I am just hoping that he has that potential. Link to post Share on other sites
logic_mtl 0 Posted September 15, 2010 Report Share Posted September 15, 2010 Apparently Avtsin compete level is off the chart so don't be surprised at what he can accomplish. What do you base this comment on? Are you referring to an article you can reference, or an interview ? On what is it based? Link to post Share on other sites
74Kos-yn-31Price 0 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 "Did not look out place. On first glance you get the impression that he is already a professional hockey player. His hockey sense, on-ice intelligence, is quite high, yet you can tell he is absolutely geared towards being an offensive machine. He had 3 breakaways/penalty shots in the rookie game today for the Red Squad, but could not finish any of them. By the looks of things, he appeared to be pretty tired by the end of the scrimmage and, although he is a well-built player with good weight and size, his endurance levels need a serious boost. Despite the rough edges that need to be worked out, I really like the potential he brings to the franchise and am excited to see how quickly he develops in Hamilton. I wouldn't be surprised if he popped onto the team's radar by January." AS PER STEVEN HINDLE Link to post Share on other sites
S-Bah 0 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Someone has a position to fill if Eller is injured, it wouldn't surprise me to see Avtsin take that spot. I have a feeling the toughest guy in camp may be a Russian and his country has Ian in it. Alex has got the kohonees to earn a spot in the Habs lineup that's my thought, and Schultz will make it on ability. Link to post Share on other sites
amp73 0 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 ........... and Schultz will make it on ability. Schultz will not make the Habs this year . 1. He's not good enough 2. There isn't a spot open for a player of his ilk 3. He's not good enough. Link to post Share on other sites
duckshooter 0 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Schultz will not make the Habs this year . 1. He's not good enough 2. There isn't a spot open for a player of his ilk 3. He's not good enough. LOL Link to post Share on other sites
leafs_rock_go_mccabe 0 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Schultz will not make the Habs this year . 1. He's not good enough 2. There isn't a spot open for a player of his ilk 3. He's not good enough. 4. Ryan White would be ahead of him, anyway. 5. This is the Avtsin thread. Link to post Share on other sites
Chunwah 0 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 4. Ryan White would be ahead of him, anyway. 5. This is the Avtsin thread. 6. He's not good enough. Pretty nice goal by Avtsin though on Monday, I believe. Link to post Share on other sites
Habcup 0 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 Some players skill level will make it detrimental to send them to the AHL. I think most GM's knew his skill level they just didn't trust the Russian factor. Learning to play on smaller ice can be accomplished at the NHL level and when players have a high skill level some stay at the NHL to learn. SBah, I think your expectations are a little too high based on what as been written and players signed with NHL contracts. Link to post Share on other sites
Habcup 0 Posted September 16, 2010 Report Share Posted September 16, 2010 I have a feeling the toughest guy in camp may be a Russian and his country has Ian in it. Alex has got the kohonees to earn a spot in the Habs lineup that's my thought, and Schultz will make it on ability. What information did you use to conclude that he has any kohonees? Link to post Share on other sites
S-Bah 0 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Schultz will not make the Habs this year . 1. He's not good enough 2. There isn't a spot open for a player of his ilk 3. He's not good enough. I guess that one was a little over the top. Link to post Share on other sites
S-Bah 0 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 What information did you use to conclude that he has any kohonees? I'm thinking that most of the male gender has them and the russians found out about it and gegan cloni8ngt after all their losses agaqinst Team Canada. What information did you use to conclude that he has any kohonees? I'm thinking that most of the male gender has them and the russians found out about it and began cloning after all their losses against Team Canada. Link to post Share on other sites
Habcup 0 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 I'm thinking that most of the male gender has them and the russians found out about it and gegan cloni8ngt after all their losses agaqinst Team Canada. I'm thinking that most of the male gender has them and the russians found out about it and began cloning after all their losses against Team Canada. You said he had the most! Whatever Link to post Share on other sites
Mathradio 0 Posted September 17, 2010 Report Share Posted September 17, 2010 Avtsin could be called up during the season if he didn't make the big team. Link to post Share on other sites
plywood 0 Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 Avtsin could be called up during the season if he didn't make the big team. So could any other bulldog. Link to post Share on other sites
Mathradio 0 Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 So could any other bulldog. There are Bulldogs that have rather high odds of being called up (White, Maxwell, Avtsin, Pacioretty, Desharnais) and there are those Bulldogs that have, at best, an outside chance (Mayer, etc.) Link to post Share on other sites
ChiLla 0 Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 So could any other bulldog. Yep, just like Darche last season. Link to post Share on other sites
hockey_gal89 0 Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 Yep, just like Darche last season. There's one major difference between Darche and Avtsin however...Avtsin is blessed with natural athletic skill sets and prowess that Habs brass is hoping translate over into a solid NHL career...Darche, however, is more of a work horse and has had to grind for almost a decade in the minors (on and off) to get to this point... Link to post Share on other sites
Nine1One 0 Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 -grumblegrumble- i just got ownd on an eashut mach their top line was eller, kostisyn and avstin, hope he and eller play as well as they do in the game in real life i'm excited to see him make the club in the future. Link to post Share on other sites
logic_mtl 0 Posted September 19, 2010 Report Share Posted September 19, 2010 You said he had the most! Whatever I understand your frustration. You expect to see some substance and some facts in the posts, sharing of good information. Link to post Share on other sites
S-Bah 0 Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 -grumblegrumble- i just got ownd on an eashut mach their top line was eller, kostisyn and avstin, hope he and eller play as well as they do in the game in real life i'm excited to see him make the club in the future. It's so gratifying to see these new prospects beginning to show their value to the fans and the Habs. I hope he's as good as the europeans figure he is top line scoring forward. Link to post Share on other sites
spoked-b 0 Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Any word on his plans if he doesn't make the team(which is likely he wont)? I got tickets to an exhibition bulldogs game and i would love to see him play. Link to post Share on other sites
S-Bah 0 Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 Any word on his plans if he doesn't make the team(which is likely he wont)? I got tickets to an exhibition bulldogs game and i would love to see him play. He will be playing in Hamilton if he doesn't make the Habs. Link to post Share on other sites
ChiLla 0 Posted September 20, 2010 Report Share Posted September 20, 2010 He was quoted in Journal de Montreal last week, saying he would also go to Q if the organization wants him to. Link to post Share on other sites
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