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The play of Wiz (and Subban and Weber) is starting to make next year's defense corps look quite the mobile / puck-moving / offensive juggernaut:

Markov + Wiz + Subban +Weber

Add in Gorges and a 6th D-man (you pick), and that appears the impressive blueline.

I do note they are standing out performance-wise right now in games against weaker teams (Ottawa?!? -- yikes!). Puck moving, PP, and even defensive play. More experience for the younger guys (Subban + Weber) and ice time together should bode well for next year.

Here's me hoping Markie and Gorges are both back next season.

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The play of Wiz (and Subban and Weber) is starting to make next year's defense corps look quite the mobile / puck-moving / offensive juggernaut:

Markov + Wiz + Subban +Weber

Add in Gorges and a 6th D-man (you pick), and that appears the impressive blueline.

I do note they are standing out performance-wise right now in games against weaker teams (Ottawa?!? -- yikes!). Puck moving, PP, and even defensive play. More experience for the younger guys (Subban + Weber) and ice time together should bode well for next year.

Here's me hoping Markie and Gorges are both back next season.

i think gill and spactcho are gonna be back

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Spacek is still under contract for one more year, so he'll most likely be back. The org is high on Gill's leadership so I wouldn't be surprised to see him sign a one-year deal this summer.

oh i said that because i didn't see either of them in his list of players.

Weber i have a feeling will be the odd man out and play as the 7th dman.

Also I really like what gill has been able to do with some of the young guys

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oh i said that because i didn't see either of them in his list of players.

Weber i have a feeling will be the odd man out and play as the 7th dman.

Also I really like what gill has been able to do with some of the young guys

Except that if the pattern of past seasons hold up we'll be needing to use our 7th and 8th and 9th D-men too. I'm hoping for a reduction in injuries of course, but that's hockey.

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Although it might be a little early, I'd really like this guy to stay.

Thing is though, if we want him, it might be smart to sign him NOW. If he continues to score at this pace, we wont be able to afford him come summer. Mind you, if we sign him & he slows down... ;P Ah, PG make the right move!

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Thing is though, if we want him, it might be smart to sign him NOW. If he continues to score at this pace, we wont be able to afford him come summer. Mind you, if we sign him & he slows down... ;P Ah, PG make the right move!

I thought about this too and honestly, although I realize it's a risk and it'll tie our hands with respect to the Markov negotiations, I wouldn't mind re-signing the guy long-term at 3.5 - 4 million per year. The Wiz is certainly not the most defensively responsible guy out there but he's no Marc-Andre Bergeron either. He somewhat reminds me of a younger Mark Streit. IMO he's a useful top 4 guy who can log big minutes and is just about to hit his prime - that's EXACTLY what this team needs as far as I'm concerned. Besides, he's much more than a power play specialist, he's a solid skater, he doesn't mind the physical play and you don't have to hide him on even strength. If he really keeps this pace up and finishes the season with 55+ points, he's going to command 4.5+ million at least and he'll likely get more on the open market. Considering the breakout season he's having, I'm not even sure if he'll be willing to settle for 4 million per year at this point because it simply might not be in his best interest. On the other hand, we haven't even seen him play for 15 games this year, meaning there might be a few unpleasant surprises down the road. Maybe he's just riding a hot streak and turns into Andrei Kostitsyn 2.0 any minute now... ;)

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I thought about this too and honestly, although I realize it's a risk and it'll tie our hands with respect to the Markov negotiations, I wouldn't mind re-signing the guy long-term at 3.5 - 4 million per year. The Wiz is certainly not the most defensively responsible guy out there but he's no Marc-Andre Bergeron either. He somewhat reminds me of a younger Mark Streit. IMO he's a useful top 4 guy who can log big minutes and is just about to hit his prime - that's EXACTLY what this team needs as far as I'm concerned. Besides, he's much more than a power play specialist, he's a solid skater, he doesn't mind the physical play and you don't have to hide him on even strength. If he really keeps this pace up and finishes the season with 55+ points, he's going to command 4.5+ million at least and he'll likely get more on the open market. Considering the breakout season he's having, I'm not even sure if he'll be willing to settle for 4 million per year at this point because it simply might not be in his best interest. On the other hand, we haven't even seen him play for 15 games this year, meaning there might be a few unpleasant surprises down the road. Maybe he's just riding a hot streak and turns into Andrei Kostitsyn 2.0 any minute now... ;)

Exactly. Its so tough to say. Im im Gauthier...i dont know what i do - and heck, we dont even know what he has done - for all we know he has offered Wiz a contract & he turned it down.

i definitely agree with all of your points about him as a player though (both pros and cons) and his age makes him very appealing. Wish Gorges wasnt injured because I have a feeling that a Wiz/Gorges pairing would make Wiz look that much better 5 on 5.

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Exactly. Its so tough to say. Im im Gauthier...i dont know what i do - and heck, we dont even know what he has done - for all we know he has offered Wiz a contract & he turned it down.

i definitely agree with all of your points about him as a player though (both pros and cons) and his age makes him very appealing. Wish Gorges wasnt injured because I have a feeling that a Wiz/Gorges pairing would make Wiz look that much better 5 on 5.

I also thought about this and really liked the idea of Gorges and Wisniewski together. I see no harm in PG approaching Wisniewski and feeling him out for salary, and if it seems reasonable signing him to a deal. if we can get him for anything under 4M, I'd lock him up, not because that's what I'd like to pay for him but because I think he could get that on an open market and because I'm not certain we'll find a UFA at a better rate. Keeping Wis around is also an insurance policy for the PP against Markov's knee and it may actually give us more negotiating power dealing with Markov too and end up saving us some money there to make up for it. We have Subban, Weber, and Spacek, and likely Gorges back next year, but Wis would be the first guy I would target to re-sign of the remaining UFA's. Markov would be next and then I would look to the outside UFA market or trade route to see what else we could add and then use Hamrlik or Gill as a fall-back in two scenarios:

1. We can't find anyone else to come in and be a big shut-down D guy (there have been rumblings about guys like Phillips, Seabrook, Regehr, etc. being available and if the price is right might be more interesting)...

2. We can find a way to unload Spacek. Hamrlik is just an all-around better player than Jaro and given his age, we may actually be able to re-sign him for less than Spacek's current cap hit. Gill would likely be cheaper and at least serve a role on the PK, as well as filling the role of mentor and partner to Subban. Spacek brings very little to the table in my opinion and if we re-sign Wis, Gorges, Markov, and one other guy, Spacek's essentially an overpaid 6th or 7th D man... I think if we get rid of him, it leaves us more flexibility to go after another name player to fill out the line-up or else to spend more on the top end and then use Weber or Gill at reduced cost to even out the cap space.

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if we can get him for anything under 4M, I'd lock him up, not because that's what I'd like to pay for him but because I think he could get that on an open market and because I'm not certain we'll find a UFA at a better rate.

100% agree. Paying him $4m may be a tad risky (considering you're in effect paying him for his breakout season) but on the open market you can bet someone would pay him more. I also agree we'd be hard pressed to find anyone close to his offensive ceiling on the blueline - especially at that price.

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Definitely not his best game out there last night, I didn't like it one bit. Not the reason for our loss obviously, just pointing it out because were debating the risks of extending his contract during the season a couple of days ago.

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Definitely not his best game out there last night, I didn't like it one bit. Not the reason for our loss obviously, just pointing it out because were debating the risks of extending his contract during the season a couple of days ago.

Everyone has a bad game or two. The last one for him was horrendous with many turnovers right in front of Price. But I think we'll see the better side of Wiz come out in the next few games.

The only problem I really have with him is his lack of variety in shooting. He generally only does a booming point shot and he's now clearly being covered against that more.

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Everyone has a bad game or two. The last one for him was horrendous with many turnovers right in front of Price. But I think we'll see the better side of Wiz come out in the next few games.

The only problem I really have with him is his lack of variety in shooting. He generally only does a booming point shot and he's now clearly being covered against that more.

Exactly what I was thinking. It would be nice if he could move up in the zone sometimes like PK does, because Wiz has a better shot than PK. It's annoying that Wiz never gets to shoot with the way he's being used on the PP.

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Very very bad game from james yesterday dumb turnovers not able to get his shot on the net despite being on every powerplay hopefully the break does gives him the rest he needs to be the player he was for us in his first 8-10 games.

remind me of:

(...)

From what Ducks and Blackhawks fans have to say, this is just the "honeymoon period" with Wisniewski and problems will arise later.

(...)

I hope for the Habs, that it was just a bad game, and not that "déjà vu":

the honeymoon syndrom happened also in NY, with the isles. Wiz played very good one or two months,and became quickly a fan favorite, before it went wrong...

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remind me of:

I hope for the Habs, that it was just a bad game, and not that "déjà vu":

the honeymoon syndrom happened also in NY, with the isles. Wiz played very good one or two months,and became quickly a fan favorite, before it went wrong...

what went wrong in ny with him?

He shouldn't be getting top pairing minutes. He's a number 4# defenseman with a wicked shot. He's still somewhat young and hopefully his Defense will improve

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what went wrong in ny with him?

He had a great start in the season with 2 goals, 9 assists in his first 8 games, followed by a stretch of 18 games with 0 goals, 4 assists and a differential of - 17.

Then he bounced back with 1 goal and 5 assists in 6 games before he joined the Habs. In 13 games here, he's added 2 goals and 10 assists.

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