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#61 Raphael Diaz 2012-2013


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I never said he didn't belong in the NHL. As for the sample size, 15 games is not far off the first 19 when he was sizzling. I like that sizzle, but he's done that twice in two years (looked good out the gate but then fizzled afterwards). Hopefully he can jump up and earn that top-four spot, but it shouldn't be given to him.

What gives you the idea it will be given to him though? :wacko:

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What gives you the idea it will be given to him though? :wacko:

Assuming Emelin isn't back until midseason and we don't make any significant moves to bolster our top-four, who plays with Subban, Gorges, and Markov, out of our remaining d-men? Diaz was getting top-four minutes this year and there doesn't seem to be anyone else the coaches will use in that role. Bouillon isn't an option obvs, and Tinordi, unless he has a spectacular camp, will likely start the year on the third pairing with Bouillon.

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No matter how you slice it Diaz should be on the 3rd pairing, probably with Tinordi. The only reason this is a discussion is because our top 4 is weak right now. Bouillon is a nonstarter, probably not even on the 3rd pairing AFAIK, Gorges whatever, let him have a shot to rebound but I'm not bursting with optimism. Markov, I just don't know and I have issues with Emelin in that role too. Emelin was kind of sainted after he went down and our D sucked but let's not forget before the injury the Markov - Emelin pairing was highly mistake prone. I like Emelin but he's out of position a lot for a guy who isn't an offensive DMan. Markov is consistently out of position as well. It's not an ideal pairing. Maybe you try Diaz - Emelin as a pairing if Diaz has a good camp and put Markov on the 3rd pairing, use him more when we need a goal and a ton of PP time?

Either way, the D is a puzzle that doesn't have all the pieces yet so we're just going to be ramming pieces together and hope it doesn't kill us.

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Thing is, are we going to use Bouillon as a 7th / reserve guy or is he going to be an every-game player again? If he's playing every night, then the other third-pairing spot is between Tinordi and Diaz, since Gorges, Markov, and (once he's healthy) Emelin seem to be slotted in for top-four spots alongside Subban. Until Emelin is healthy, though, I have a feeling we'll see Diaz in the top four.

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Thing is, are we going to use Bouillon as a 7th / reserve guy or is he going to be an every-game player again? If he's playing every night, then the other third-pairing spot is between Tinordi and Diaz, since Gorges, Markov, and (once he's healthy) Emelin seem to be slotted in for top-four spots alongside Subban. Until Emelin is healthy, though, I have a feeling we'll see Diaz in the top four.

I have NO feel for how they feel about Diaz. Coming into last year I suspected both him and Weber would be moved on and Diaz actually seemed to win some level of favor with the coaching staff. He's a nice 3rd pairing piece IMO but the problem is this team is littered with nice 3rd pairing pieces, is there really any room for him? Maybe he's a trade piece? I just can't wrap my head around this D because there's so many different possibilities. I think other than Subban our number 2 through 9 guys in the organization aren't that far apart. I like Beaulieu and he grew a lot, same with Tinordi. Wouldn't surprise me if they can play close to as well as Diaz or Bouillon or maybe even Emelin - Markov with another summer of development and a full training camp.

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Littered with third-pairing pieces is exactly how I feel about our D corps outside of Subban. I'm hoping Diaz steps up and shows he belongs in the top four but realistically, outside of a trade or UFA signing, I think we have to roll the dice with what we have and look to strengthen progressively over the next couple of years.

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He's a nice 3rd pairing piece IMO but the problem is this team is littered with nice 3rd pairing pieces, is there really any room for him?

While I dont disagree with you, we said a year ago that we were littered with 2nd & 3rd liners up front, but with the emergence of a few key players (the 2 gallys, eller) we have managed to take a whole lot of spare parts & get scoring by committee. We also know that as those youngsters improve, we will see them take on more of a starring role but for now, we have balance amongst a lot of "non-1st line" pieces.

On defense, i think you could make the argument that if we could just get ONE GUY - someone who can play big time minutes and compliment PK perfectly, that we would have an elite 1st pairing & our 2nd & 3rd pairings could be used evenly over the other 30 minutes a game. Its not ideal, but like the 3 offensive line things we're doing up front it gives us time for our kids (Tinordi, Bealieu etc) to mature and take on those premium assignments.

The trick is finding that one guy - that true #2 this summer. Do that, and our defence has a fighting chance at being respectable.

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Unfortunatley it appears it will have to be through the trade market. Outside of Mark Streit and Ian White there really isn't anything interesting in the UFA pool and at this point it's not as if Mark Streit is the answer (that, and he'll get signed in NYI anyway) White would be an interesting piece but it's hard to see him leaving Detroit. All there is after that is a bunch of 3rd pairing fringe top 4 journeymen (D. Murray, R. Scuderi, R. O'Byrne, R. Regehr, etc etc etc.) and we don't need any more of those guys.

I think Diaz is going to be the odd man out here if we make a deal, Emelin is somebody they want for the physicality, Markov's probably not going anywhere (and honestly in a 3rd pairing PP specialist role he's as good as you get, still a special player on the PP), Gorges is locked up long term and he's got all the lovely hockey cliches, and Subban is our best defenseman. As good as Diaz was before his injury, I think playstyles make him more expendable. Of course, he's a fantastic option to keep on the third pairing and I'd love to see him there with Tinordi or Beaulieu, but I think if we're moving a D-man+ to get an impact player back it will be Diaz.

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With respect to free agency, just remember that there will likely be some big-name buyouts once those are allowed... so the group of who's freed up may change, and other players may become available via trade as teams revamp their rosters trhough free agency as well. Diaz has much more value than Weber, but in the end, it's hard to squeeze him into the roster we have. We need to get bigger and tougher on the back end, and Diaz doesn't really fit that role well.

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With respect to free agency, just remember that there will likely be some big-name buyouts once those are allowed... so the group of who's freed up may change, and other players may become available via trade as teams revamp their rosters trhough free agency as well. Diaz has much more value than Weber, but in the end, it's hard to squeeze him into the roster we have. We need to get bigger and tougher on the back end, and Diaz doesn't really fit that role well.

Diaz is a smallish d-man who doens't do anything "great" but aside from a lack of physicality (although he plays a pretty tough game) he doesn't have any flaws.

I hope that in the quest to become "tougher" they don't leave Diaz out of the plans solely due to his size. He's impressed a lot.

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