maas_art 0 Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, BigTed3 said: 3 games is insane. It's utter BS. I reviewed int he GDT why he shouldn't have even had a penalty, never mind a suspension. Absolutely ludicrous. Link to post Share on other sites
kinot-2 0 Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, maas_art said: Absolutely ludicrous. And for a 1st offender. Link to post Share on other sites
maas_art 0 Posted January 16, 2019 Report Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 hour ago, HabsRuleForever said: Three games, what a joke. That means he won't play till February unless they appeal. The bright side is that there's been speculation Byron has been playing hurt (minor lower body injury) so this will give him some time to rest up a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
Habberwacky 0 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Looks like it has all been said. Absolutely uncalled for by the league. 1 game max for that. Link to post Share on other sites
kinot-2 0 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Looks like he won't play 'til Feb. Link to post Share on other sites
BigTed3 0 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Further to my point, here are three similar incidents in which NO suspension was handed out: This is Tom Wilson getting hit from behind by Anton Stralman in the playoffs last year. Stralman runs his head into the boards. He also clearly leaves his feet before contact. This hit is by NHL rules WORSE than what Byron did, yet there was no suspension. The second example here is Brayden Schenn leveling David Krejci. Like with Byron, this hit is not late nor is it from behind. Schenn also leaves his feet and like Byron, this happens only after the contact is made. Unlike Byron, who hits Weegar on the body as well, Schenn's hit is pretty much squarely to the head alone. Yet no suspension. This hit was also worse than Byron's in terms of breaking rules. And some of you might remember this incident where Marchand saw Duclair coming at the last moment and jumped up, leaving his feet to clothesline Duclair, causing him to have a significant knee injury. Once again, the hitting player left his feet. Once again this resulted in injury. Once again there was contact up high. All similar to the Byron play. And in this case, Marchand also hits a guy late when he is not playing the puck. This is likewise more flagrantly against the rulebook than the Byron hit. So you have three separate incidents, all meeting very similar criteria to what the NHL claims to have suspended Byron for and all even more flagrant in terms of rules that they broke (leaving feet before contact; head being primary point of contact; hit on a player without the puck). Byron broke none of those rules and yet ends up with 3 games. George Parros can get stuffed. Maybe he holds some type of grudge against the Habs because he blew goats while he played here, but the ruling is inexplicably inconsistent with other non-suspensions under Parros' tenure. Link to post Share on other sites
kinot-2 0 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) ^^^^^^ Just shows to go ya, there is no rule book. Edited January 17, 2019 by kinot-2 Link to post Share on other sites
archey 0 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Looked like a moose attack to me from the start so Link to post Share on other sites
jennifer_rocket 0 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 I thought Byron would receive 1 game. 3 games was... ahem... unexpected. The NHL's consistency in handing out suspensions is brutal. Link to post Share on other sites
Habs_Hockey_Nutz 0 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 7 minutes ago, jennifer_rocket said: I thought Byron would receive 1 game. 3 games was... ahem... unexpected. The NHL's consistency in handing out suspensions is brutal. ... and selective depending on the team being affected IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites
habs1952 0 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 14 hours ago, kinot-2 said: ^^^^^^ Just shows to go ya, there is no rule book. Please tell me you did that on porpoise. Link to post Share on other sites
jennifer_rocket 0 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Habs_Hockey_Nutz said: ... and selective depending on the team being affected IMHO. ...and probably selective based on the type of player (i.e. superstar vs. role player). I just really, really don't get three games for Byron. I thought the hit deserved a penalty and a one game suspension would have been sensible, IMO. Three games doesn't make sense. Link to post Share on other sites
H_T_L 0 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 Three games is totally out of whack with what we've seen with other 1st time offenders. I expected a game, but this was excessive. As i pointed out,,, it seems that the NHL reacts on the results of an infraction rather then the event itself,,, even though they deny it. How else do you explain the hit on Mete in the Bruin game not being reviewed and punished? He wasn't injured, so no call on the ice and no review. Link to post Share on other sites
kinot-2 0 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 57 minutes ago, habs1952 said: Please tell me you did that on porpoise. Yes I did that on purpose. My dad use to say that a lot. Link to post Share on other sites
HabsRuleForever 0 Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, kinot-2 said: Yes I did that on purpose. My dad use to say that a lot. So the whole fam damily too? Link to post Share on other sites
kinot-2 0 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Share Posted January 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, HabsRuleForever said: So the whole fam damily too? Haven't heard that one for a very long time, but, neither of my parents swore, not even that because it was too close to swearing. And no, we weren't religious. Link to post Share on other sites
habs1952 0 Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 5 hours ago, HabsRuleForever said: So the whole fam damily too? Brings back memories. Link to post Share on other sites
jennifer_rocket 0 Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 Can anyone point to any other cases this season or last season where a first-time offender received 3+ games for a suspension? Link to post Share on other sites
campabee82 0 Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, jennifer_rocket said: Can anyone point to any other cases this season or last season where a first-time offender received 3+ games for a suspension? So far this season only 3 players have been suspended so far this season, Byron, Borowiecki and Backes but both Backes and Borowieki were checks to the head and Byrons is listed as Charging (probably because that was the original penalty) it is Backes second suspension of his career the first was a 3 game suspension in March of 2018, Borowieki is a repeat offender as his 3 game suspension came the game after serving a 1 game suspension for elbowing Cody Eakin in the head. All other head shots this year have resulted in a 2 game suspension they include a number of first time offenders in Brandon Lemieux, Josh Archibald and Eric Karlsson. Lemieux was a blatant head shot, Archibald was pretty much identical to Byrons as they both almost missed the other player and were against the boards. Karlsson's was more of a blind side open ice hit not targeting the head but was again the first point of contact. So to be consistent the Byron hit should have been 2 games not 3 but I think 2 things came into effect on this suspension. 1. the speed and distance traveled before the hit . 2. the resulting injury Link to post Share on other sites
CANADIENS27 0 Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 NHL.com. Minnesota center Ryan Johansen has been suspended two games for high sticking against Winnipeg center Mark Scheifele. The incident occurred at 16:31 of the first period. Johansen was assessed a two minute minor for high sticking. Link to post Share on other sites
maas_art 0 Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 6 hours ago, campabee82 said: So far this season only 3 players have been suspended so far this season, Byron, Borowiecki and Backes b Uh, Wilson, Karlsson, Khaira, Hyman, Lomberg, Giordano, Bertuzzi, Archibald, Lemieux, Backes, Borowecki (x2) and Matheson have all been suspended this season (plus 3 or 4 guys in the preseason I believe) EDIT - im wondering if you meant to say only those players had been suspended more than 2 games so far this season - which i think, aside from the preseason - is true. Link to post Share on other sites
PuckPundit 0 Posted January 18, 2019 Report Share Posted January 18, 2019 Surely gonna miss Lord Byron's short-handed prowess in 2 tough games against Columbus and Philadelphia. Link to post Share on other sites
campabee82 0 Posted January 19, 2019 Report Share Posted January 19, 2019 2 hours ago, maas_art said: Uh, Wilson, Karlsson, Khaira, Hyman, Lomberg, Giordano, Bertuzzi, Archibald, Lemieux, Backes, Borowecki (x2) and Matheson have all been suspended this season (plus 3 or 4 guys in the preseason I believe) EDIT - im wondering if you meant to say only those players had been suspended more than 2 games so far this season - which i think, aside from the preseason - is true. Yes sorry what I meant was the first 3 were 3 game suspensions and the rest were 2 games Link to post Share on other sites
H_T_L 0 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 Take note NHL,,,, here's a pro league that admits and tries to fix their mistakes https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-will-publicly-admit-error-on-key-non-call-in-rams-saints/ar-BBSwdKz?ocid=spartandhp, Link to post Share on other sites
kinot-2 0 Posted January 21, 2019 Report Share Posted January 21, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, H_T_L said: Take note NHL,,,, here's a pro league that admits and tries to fix their mistakes https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-will-publicly-admit-error-on-key-non-call-in-rams-saints/ar-BBSwdKz?ocid=spartandhp, Just seen that on TV, Pathetic, when the Saints should have been going to the SB. Edited January 21, 2019 by kinot-2 Link to post Share on other sites
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