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5 hours ago, H_T_L said:

We have a busy schedule the rest of the way and a capable backup is needed. No way can Price do this himself. If Charlie is healthy he needs to be called up whenever a backup is scheduled.

 

3 hours ago, campabee82 said:

Agreed waive Niemi send him to Laval and call up Lindgren. Both teams win.

I don't think Lindgren is the answer... he has struggled quite a bit the last two years... look for a possible trade

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4 minutes ago, Habs_Hockey_Nutz said:

 

I don't think Lindgren is the answer... he has struggled quite a bit the last two years... look for a possible trade

Im torn on Lindgren. He's always had trouble at the AHL level for some reason. His NHL number are considerably better (i know, much smaller sample size) but some players (very small amount) do perform better at the NHL level.   Maybe its the advantage of having Waite there every single day, I dont know, but id be ok giving him a shot. At this point i have more confidence in CL than id in Niemi.

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41 minutes ago, maas_art said:

Im torn on Lindgren. He's always had trouble at the AHL level for some reason. His NHL number are considerably better (i know, much smaller sample size) but some players (very small amount) do perform better at the NHL level.   Maybe its the advantage of having Waite there every single day, I dont know, but id be ok giving him a shot. At this point i have more confidence in CL than id in Niemi.

I'd give him a chance as well, it can't hurt. But if there's a deal for a better NHL goalie out there that's what they should do.

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Habs play the Leafs next and have a lot of road games coming up, but if you look, many of them are against teams who will conceivably be sellers at the deadline. After the trade deadline, we face NJ, Det, NYR, LA, Ana, and Det again as 6 of our next 8 games. So that's a bunch of games against non-playoff locks who might have depleted their rosters by then. Could be something to try and take advantage of... the end of our season is brutal, with games against Wpg, TB, Was, and Tor (unless those teams have clinched and are resting players) so it's imperative our next 3-4 weeks are played well. I'd venture we need to play .650 hockey by the time we get to Wpg to make the playoffs.

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50 minutes ago, CANADIENS27 said:

Bad defense and goaltending by the Flyers and outstanding goaltending by Price.  

 

 

Kind of what happened the last time the Habs played the flyers, completely opposite bad defence by the Habs and great goaltending by Hart

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4 hours ago, CANADIENS27 said:

Team must have thought last night was going to be an easy game.  

 

 

Nah, it is the level we are at compared to the leafs. imagine us with just one of Tavares or Matthews or a Nylander we would be transformed. we are a good team not a great team but i feel we are in a good position to advance as long as we don't do something stupid right now. JK is going to be an impact player in a couple of years he is already very good and we have some good stuff coming up in the off season i think we may be able to poach some talent to get us over the hump but it is too expensive and the trade deadline at least most of the time.

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Soon as Price let that first goal in which was very stoppable, I got that feeling that we were going to lose. 

Combine that with the lousy coach that everyone thinks is a genius and we lose 6-3.

Just pray that MB stands pat at the deadline. If he trades Cayden Primeau we will be cup-less for many years to come.

 

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35 minutes ago, tony5775 said:

Soon as Price let that first goal in which was very stoppable, I got that feeling that we were going to lose. 

Combine that with the lousy coach that everyone thinks is a genius and we lose 6-3.

Just pray that MB stands pat at the deadline. If he trades Cayden Primeau we will be cup-less for many years to come.

 

I personally don't want to stand pat but also not willing to mortgage the future the one A list prospect I would be willing to listen to offers for would be Poeling as we are deep at centre for the next few years and he could potentially walk away for nothing which at this point to me seems likely. If you could move Poeling + Drouin + a 3rd or 4th you could get that 1 LHD we desperately need 

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2 hours ago, campabee82 said:

Poeling ...he could potentially walk away for nothing which at this point to me seems likely. 

I dont understand why you feel so strongly about this.  Sure, he could but tons of players play out a college program rather than go to the minors.  Especially when the college is right by their home - and their brother plays on the team!  

At this point there's absolutely no reason to believe he will walk. We're still 18+ months away from him being able to - and he could sign an ELC as soon as a couple of months from now. 

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15 minutes ago, maas_art said:

I dont understand why you feel so strongly about this.  Sure, he could but tons of players play out a college program rather than go to the minors.  Especially when the college is right by their home - and their brother plays on the team!  

At this point there's absolutely no reason to believe he will walk. We're still 18+ months away from him being able to - and he could sign an ELC as soon as a couple of months from now. 

you're right. But I will be very worried if he doesn't sign at the end of this season. At that point there is nothing stopping him from just doing what he wants. They really need to change the rules for college players and make them sit out a full year to become UFAs

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First off we need a coach that isn't in love with Neanderthals like Deslauries, the guy can't skate can't shoot and really can't do much of anything.  Watching our 4th line on Saturday was a disgrace, so we traded for a decent face off man in Thompson who is too friggin slow to go anything other than face offs.  

Yes Price probably should have stopped the first goal and the second was just a total fluke, but we are in desperate need of a D man that can hit and move people from the front of the net.  Weber should be embarrassed that Bubble Boy Matthews was able to put him to the ice. 

 

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My grades for the 3/4 mark:

- Price: B+... turned his season around after a tough start.

- Niemi: F... possibly the worst goalie in the league. Not acceptable as a back-up.

 

- Petry: A... solid season.

- Mete: B... has come back revived, but still no goals.

- Weber: B-... has really tailed off.

- Kulak: B-... a pleasant surprise in a 3rd-pairing role.

- Reilly: C+... passable but not great.

- Benn: C+... has really picked up his game since being allowed to be a 3rd pairing guy only.

- Alzner: F... as he was.

 

- Domi: A... still the class of the forwards.

- Gallagher: A... another solid year as a scorer.

- Tatar: A... playing above expectations.

- Danault: A-... quietly putting together his best year.

- Shaw: A-... solid when healthy

- Kotkaniemi: B... up and down year offensively but solid for an 18-year old.

- Byron: B-... hasn't taken the next step with increased ice time but still good.

- Armia: C+... some good things at both ends but needs to finish at the net.

- Lehkonen: C... like Armia.

- Drouin: C-... the points are there but the effort is lacking far too often.

- Peca: C-... decent for a 4th liner.

- Hudon: D... has regressed this year, not playing to his strengths.

- Deslauriers: F... the Niemi of position players.

 

- Julien: B+... if he gave up the love affair with Deslauriers, he's done a lot of things right. The PP still needs fixing.

- Bergevin: B... off-season moves have worked out. Hasn't addressed the LHD issue but hasn't panicked and made a dumb move to find a patchwork solution.

 

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FWIW if you believe him, when MB enquired about top end players prior to the deadline, the ask was Kotkaniemi or Poehling.    I assume that means he was trying to land a top flight LD  (or maybe a sniper like stone). 

In either case, Im glad he balked.  Those are going to be two cornerstone players and even if we do decide to, for example, consider trading a Poehling, it should be in the summer, when there is time to really work out a deal that meets all our needs.  

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28 minutes ago, maas_art said:

FWIW if you believe him, when MB enquired about top end players prior to the deadline, the ask was Kotkaniemi or Poehling.    I assume that means he was trying to land a top flight LD  (or maybe a sniper like stone). 

In either case, Im glad he balked.  Those are going to be two cornerstone players and even if we do decide to, for example, consider trading a Poehling, it should be in the summer, when there is time to really work out a deal that meets all our needs.  

Agreed, especially with the beginning part about our hiding plant man GM. 

If it's truth then I'm glad as well. 

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So with 5 points last night Domi now has 59 in 64 games.  

Coming in to the season I think most people would have been happy with 22g 37a for the whole season - so the fact he has 18 games left, makes his season already amazing, point wise.  (not even getting into the fact that he's been great at both ends of the ice and has given our centre depth a huge boost).

So what are the bets at what he ends the season at, point wise?  Right now he's projecting at 75 points but im curious if anyone thinks he'll fall short of that - or maybe break 80?

It would take a great finish for him to end the season at PPG (which would be the first time anyone has since Kovalev) but its still possible too (and Drouin usually finished the season strong so if that line stays together...)
 

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2 minutes ago, maas_art said:

So with 5 points last night Domi now has 59 in 64 games.  

Coming in to the season I think most people would have been happy with 22g 37a for the whole season - so the fact he has 18 games left, makes his season already amazing, point wise.  (not even getting into the fact that he's been great at both ends of the ice and has given our centre depth a huge boost).

So what are the bets at what he ends the season at, point wise?  Right now he's projecting at 75 points but im curious if anyone thinks he'll fall short of that - or maybe break 80?

It would take a great finish for him to end the season at PPG (which would be the first time anyone has since Kovalev) but its still possible too (and Drouin usually finished the season strong so if that line stays together...)
 

no predictions here, I am just so happy with that trade, and I was the first to criticize when it happened.  

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I wouldn't be surprised if CJ tries his best to ride out the season with the lines as they are now. He likes stability, he seems to refuse to swap Danault and Kotkaniemi, and these trios have worked a few times. I think he still needs to find stability in his D pairings though, since Weber's play has fallen off.

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Correct me if I'm wrong because I didn't look up the numbers but Domi seems to be the most productive forward we've had since Kovalev in his PPG season. I don't think anyone could have expected this but there's no doubt that he's been absolutely lights out this season. Even during scoring slumps he's been a very valuable player, which I don't think you can say about Galchenyuk.

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While Andrew Shaw and Max Domi stole the show, it was rookie  Jesperi Kotkaniemi that joined an exclusive club thanks to the performance. 

The 18 year old now has 31 points in his rookie season which includes 11 goals and 20 assists. 

Kotkaniemi now joins Rasmus Dahlin, Patrik Laine, Ilya Kovalchuk and Jaromir Jagr as the only European players to score 30+ points at the age of 18. 

Anytime you're in the same group as Jagr, that's usually a good thing!

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