Cole "Goal" Caufield

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38 minutes ago, habs1952 said:

Because you might hurt his feelings 

lot of that lately

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16 hours ago, Regis22 said:

Why are the Montreal Canadiens allowing Cole Caufield to decide his future?

I think it’s because it’s his decision to make. Montreal can choose to assign him to Laval or bring him up or not to sign him at all, but whether or not he stays in school is entirely up to him.

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Bergevin might do well to take a page from Ken Holland’s book when it came to signing Dylan Larkin to a contract after his freshman year at the University of Michigan. Larkin desperately wanted to play in the NHL and it turns out he was absolutely right. But when they were negotiating his entry-level deal, Holland said directly to Larkin and said, “If you’re staring out the window of a bus in the middle of the night on a road trip from Milwaukee to Grand Rapids, remember it was you who made this decision.”

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Cole’s teammate signs - Badgers who we’re almost last in their conference get depleted - wonder if this influences Coles decision

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14 minutes ago, claremont said:

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/kings-sign-forward-alex-turcotte-three-year-entry-level-contract/?fbclid=IwAR3Dx__qmZc8955YxM35houjCMF4zpe1vqgwLvp_r-gkQk_EflnW1rADR9g

 

Cole’s teammate signs - Badgers who we’re almost last in their conference get depleted - wonder if this influences Coles decision

I would imagine his choice is to sign - no matter what - i think if MB gives him the chance, he'll sign.  But the question is whether our evaluation team believes he'd be better served with us vs. college.   Since he can go directly to Laval I feel like it probably makes more sense to get him into our system sooner rather than later, (no matter how good an NCAA team may be, you want to develop players with your own people when possible) but id tell the kid: unless you blow us away, so that we HAVE to keep you with the team, expect to be riding the bus in the minors next year. 

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3 minutes ago, maas_art said:

I would imagine his choice is to sign - no matter what - i think if MB gives him the chance, he'll sign.  But the question is whether our evaluation team believes he'd be better served with us vs. college.   Since he can go directly to Laval I feel like it probably makes more sense to get him into our system sooner rather than later, (no matter how good an NCAA team may be, you want to develop players with your own people when possible) but id tell the kid: unless you blow us away, so that we HAVE to keep you with the team, expect to be riding the bus in the minors next year. 

Fair point - a lot of these kids are confident overachievers and expect some quick success thinking it’s easier than they think. Caufield was a little humbled at the world juniors so I expect he may take Laval as a positive step 

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1 hour ago, claremont said:

Fair point - a lot of these kids are confident overachievers and expect some quick success thinking it’s easier than they think. Caufield was a little humbled at the world juniors so I expect he may take Laval as a positive step 

If he was smart he'd accept playing in Laval. If he excels he could be with the Habs quicker than if he stayed at college.

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56 minutes ago, habs1952 said:

If he was smart he'd accept playing in Laval. If he excels he could be with the Habs quicker than if he stayed at college.

For sure. 

I think the only question is whether they feel needs more time to develop physically. I know that many of the players in the NCAA are 4th and 5th year players (ie, 22 year old men) but in the AHL you have fully developed, often very large men who are trying to do something - anything - to get noticed. If the team is worried he's not strong enough yet (a concern given the fact he'll never be more than 5' 7") then they may well prefer he stays in the Uni program one more season. 

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He may have begun his divorce proceedings from the Montreal Canadiens by choosing to return to school..

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4 hours ago, RCAF48 said:

He may have begun his divorce proceedings from the Montreal Canadiens by choosing to return to school..

Exactly what I was thinking.

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4 hours ago, RCAF48 said:

He may have begun his divorce proceedings from the Montreal Canadiens by choosing to return to school..

 

7 minutes ago, habs1952 said:

Exactly what I was thinking.

yup !!!

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5 hours ago, RCAF48 said:

He may have begun his divorce proceedings from the Montreal Canadiens by choosing to return to school..

If that is what he id thinking, then when could he sign with someone else? 

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18 minutes ago, kinot-2 said:

If that is what he id thinking, then when could he sign with someone else? 

Not until the summer of 21-22 the Habs own his rights for 3 years after the draft

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Just now, campabee82 said:

Not until the summer of 21-22 the Habs own his rights for 3 years after the draft

TY

 

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I think he probably made the choice based on a conversation with MB. Which probably went something like this

MB - here are your choices kid. 1. Go back to UW with coach Granato and work on A, B and C or 2. go to Laval play for Bouchard and work on A, B and C. He probably chose to go back to UW for 2 reasons 1. He knows Granato and trusts his coaching 2. His brother Brock still plays for UW. So partly a family decision 

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4 minutes ago, campabee82 said:

I think he probably made the choice based on a conversation with MB. Which probably went something like this

MB - here are your choices kid. 1. Go back to UW with coach Granato and work on A, B and C or 2. go to Laval play for Bouchard and work on A, B and C. He probably chose to go back to UW for 2 reasons 1. He knows Granato and trusts his coaching 2. His brother Brock still plays for UW. So partly a family decision 

That sounds reasonable.

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1 minute ago, kinot-2 said:

That sounds reasonable.

Yeah I also believe that Brock went undrafted and is already a junior so next season would be his last one with UW. I will check on that and get back to you though

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Ok so Brock did go undrafted and is a sophomore this year and a junior next season

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1 minute ago, campabee82 said:

Ok so Brock did go undrafted and is a sophomore this year and a junior next season

So, if he is a junior next year, that would make him a senior the year after? Is that correct and he would have 1 more year of university, similar to Caulfield? 

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2 minutes ago, kinot-2 said:

So, if he is a junior next year, that would make him a senior the year after? Is that correct and he would have 1 more year of university, similar to Caulfield? 

Right

Edited March 18, 2020 by campabee82

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1 minute ago, campabee82 said:

Right

TY.

 

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2 minutes ago, kinot-2 said:

TY.

 

NP 

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11 hours ago, campabee82 said:

I think he probably made the choice based on a conversation with MB. Which probably went something like this

MB - here are your choices kid. 1. Go back to UW with coach Granato and work on A, B and C or 2. go to Laval play for Bouchard and work on A, B and C. He probably chose to go back to UW for 2 reasons 1. He knows Granato and trusts his coaching 2. His brother Brock still plays for UW. So partly a family decision 

Yes. I think people are reading waaaaay too much into this.  Did Caufield have a good rookie season? Yes!  Is there any indication he's outgrown the university league? no.  There's really no need to rush him  - especially if our development team doesnt think he's ready.

TONS of players play multiple years in the NCAA. Only a very very small amount of them shun the team that drafted them & wait out to become free agents. There's absolutely nothing that makes me think this is even slightly being considered right now. 

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34 minutes ago, maas_art said:

Yes. I think people are reading waaaaay too much into this.  Did Caufield have a good rookie season? Yes!  Is there any indication he's outgrown the university league? no.  There's really no need to rush him  - especially if our development team doesnt think he's ready.

TONS of players play multiple years in the NCAA. Only a very very small amount of them shun the team that drafted them & wait out to become free agents. There's absolutely nothing that makes me think this is even slightly being considered right now. 

Me either and just as a side note, during the post draft interview with his parents his mom said that in school he had a choice of taking french or spanish and he chose french stating that one day he was going to play for the Canadiens. While I believe it could have just been one of those this team drafted my son so lets say good things it could also be the truth which makes it kind of interesting

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1 hour ago, campabee82 said:

Me either and just as a side note, during the post draft interview with his parents his mom said that in school he had a choice of taking french or spanish and he chose french stating that one day he was going to play for the Canadiens. While I believe it could have just been one of those this team drafted my son so lets say good things it could also be the truth which makes it kind of interesting

That is interesting.