roy_133 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 A game against Theo will do that to most players :D Theodore wasn't THAT bad, our forwards were just that good, we were really buzzing, finding corners, played very well imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp73 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Theodore wasn't THAT bad,........ lol...if he would of been wearing a HABS jersey tonight when he let 8 goals in everyone would be asking for his head . Not taking anything away from the Montreal players but Theo was just as bad tonight as he was last year when he stunk the joint out several nights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindred Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 lol but at the same time Regis how many other goalies would have bene able to stop Samsonovs goal tonight? that should keep the headhunters off his trail for a few games :razz: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hogtownhabsfan Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 8 goals on theo, what a gameGlad to see sammy not miss the net on that perfect pass.. Whatever, Sammy gave Kovalev an equally brilliant no look pass a couple of goals later. The fact is the 2 of them are clicking. Which means if we ever get some consistant defence from Souray and Rivet, we will be going on all fronts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 lol...if he would of been wearing a HABS jersey tonight when he let 8 goals in everyone would be asking for his head .Not taking anything away from the Montreal players but Theo was just as bad tonight as he was last year when he stunk the joint out several nights As much as I dislike Jose, I don't think he was the reason we scored so much. Then against asking for your opinion on Theodore is like asking TSNs opinion on the Habs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp73 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Then against asking for your opinion on Theodore is like asking TSNs opinion on the Habs. lol...this is a thread on Samsanov . Please keep on track, do not flame other members :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 lol...this is a thread on Samsanov .Please keep on track, do not flame other members :D lol! It is related to Samsonov, you implied that Samsonovs great game tonight was less significant because Theodore was in net, and I was pointing out that you have an obvious bias against Theodore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs_fan1160 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Good game by Sami tonight, that's what I like to see from him. Although, I can't give 100% credit to Sami for the goal, that was an awesome pass from Kovalev. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gabe3 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 Good game by Sami tonight, that's what I like to see from him. Although, I can't give 100% credit to Sami for the goal, that was an awesome pass from Kovalev. Kovalev's pass was incredible. He had another player that almost got the puck, but he managed to do a backhand pass before it was too late, and it was a perfect one. Samsonov got the pass and topped it in the left corner before Theo could get it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miltie01 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 He's getting there folks. He works and that is always great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gabe3 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 He's getting there folks. He works and that is always great. He actually works pretty hard out there. He's a pretty fast skater and he's getting more and more used to being on the same line as Kovy. They make a great line together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs_fan1160 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 He actually works pretty hard out there. He's a pretty fast skater and he's getting more and more used to being on the same line as Kovy. They make a great line together. I think once they're more comfortable with each other they'll explode. I mean come on Sami is a sniper, he was great for Boston and Edmonton, then there's AK-27 and we all know what he's capable of doing. If I was Carb's I'd leave the lines as is, and let them click. Once they do they'll be a huge offensive power on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyv Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 great coaching move by carbo to stick it out with this line and ignore the media, its obviosuly come together for him tonight, and could be the nessecary propeling game to get them on a good stretch Samsonov as i said before has produced everywhere, every year, its silly of us to suggest he suddenly wont here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindros_jr Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 great coaching move by carbo to stick it out with this line and ignore the media, its obviosuly come together for him tonight, and could be the nessecary propeling game to get them on a good stretchSamsonov as i said before has produced everywhere, every year, its silly of us to suggest he suddenly wont here. Please tell me where Sammy has produced "eveywhere, evert year". Please back it up with his stats. The problem is you cant. He had 3 "good" years in his career. His rookie year has always been considered his best. The he had a 70 and 75 point season with Boston playing with Thorton, but those 2 years were still considered underachieving years. So tell me how Sammy has been this consistent producer please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crognalsen Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 http://www.nhl.com/nhl/app?service=page&pa...layerId=8466035 His point per game is pretty consistant his whole career. He has less then 40 points only twice his career and he was injured those years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindros_jr Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 If u do the math and divide the total games played with total points and then multiply it by the average number of games in a season which is 82 it comes out to 59. So he basically averages 59 points every 82 games played. That is not worth his contract and that does not make Sammy someone who everyone thinks is a producer! Those are the hard facts and u can not deny that! I coudl have done all the math wrong but thats looks about right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crognalsen Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I have to disagree with you. 59 points is fine with me and it's an upgrade over Bulis. I don't believe he is overpaid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovy1010 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 If u do the math and divide the total games played with total points and then multiply it by the average number of games in a season which is 82 it comes out to 59. So he basically averages 59 points every 82 games played. That is not worth his contract and that does not make Sammy someone who everyone thinks is a producer! Those are the hard facts and u can not deny that! I coudl have done all the math wrong but thats looks about right Is Lecavalier worth 7.5 million a season? Of course not. He's never scored a point per game in his career playing on a great offensive team. Is Sammy worth 3.5? No unless he produces like he really could (70-75). But the thing is, he still remains a very talented player which every winning team needs in order to succeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyv Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 so what your saying is 60 points per season isnt considered producing? i check my stats, and i did my math, thats why i said what i said, and the last 4 people who posted just made you chew on your own boot, samsonov HAS produced everywhere, he is a bonified sniper, well renowned by the league, by the analysts, he was loved in edmonton, had some excellent seasons in Boston. he is no superstar, but please DO NOT tell me he does not produce, thats ridiculous. Career PPG Numbers: Samsonov - 0.73 Ryder - 0.73 Afinogenov - 0.56 Zherdev - 0.67 Drury - 0.72 Gaborik - 0.76 those right there are the career point per game stats of players all like samsonov, bonified snipers, goal scorers etc, and observe how much better or equal to, Samsonov's stats are, perhaps now in comparison with some of those names there, you see what i mean when i say he HAS produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100proofevil Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 How many times i gotta say everytime we ever faced boston anytime playoff or no, Samsonov was the player i feared the most, he was the peskiest and the most point producing against us what went unheard about the whole "MONTREAL HOLDS JOE THORNTON POINTLESS IN 7 GAMES IN PLAYOFF SERIES" , wheres the mention that Sergei had 7 pts in those 7 games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovy1010 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 so what your saying is 60 points per season isnt considered producing? i check my stats, and i did my math, thats why i said what i said, and the last 4 people who posted just made you chew on your own boot, samsonov HAS produced everywhere, he is a bonified sniper, well renowned by the league, by the analysts, he was loved in edmonton, had some excellent seasons in Boston.he is no superstar, but please DO NOT tell me he does not produce, thats ridiculous. Career PPG Numbers: Samsonov - 0.73 Ryder - 0.73 Afinogenov - 0.56 Zherdev - 0.67 Drury - 0.72 Gaborik - 0.76 those right there are the career point per game stats of players all like samsonov, bonified snipers, goal scorers etc, and observe how much better or equal to, Samsonov's stats are, perhaps now in comparison with some of those names there, you see what i mean when i say he HAS produced. Great comparisons there man. Especially since most of these guys are about to hit their primes or early in their prime years.(sammy, ryder, afi, zherdev, gaborik) None of them could say there good defensively but theyre still good players in this league. (Drurys the exception here though, hes the total package) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyv Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 i just tried to use guys who play a similar style and would rank about where i would rank samsonov, good players, not great, but good, they all use speed flash and great shots to produce points. and Samsonov ranks either very close, equal, or better than all of them, i was shocked to see how close his career production is to Gaborik, who would have thought Samsonov only produced 0.03 points per game less than a player like Gaborik over his career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 I agree Link, I get on Kovalev out of frustration, much like I do with Samsonov, but these players arent the kind of players you can look at their game to game performance and judge them, you judge them on their point totals at the end of the season. Samsonov will be a very good 2nd line player for us/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest f30marco Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 still not to convinced with sammy even if he had two points tonight. IMO he still doesnt look happy out there. not that i want to see a smile but he looks lifeless and seems like doesnt even care when his team scores, maybe im wrong but it looks like he doesnt want to play here. but like lots of us said all ready maybe he's still trying to find his way with the team and isnt fully integrated into the team yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindros_jr Posted October 22, 2006 Report Share Posted October 22, 2006 So basically u all think getting 60 points out of a guy who is making 3.5 million a year is good? And let me repeat myself. I live in Boston and saw him play all those years and he got killed by the media, organization and press by doing nothing but underachieving while playing on the 1st line, 1st PP unit and playing on a line with Thorton. Give me a break. And what was he traded for? Oh yah thats right 2 4th liners and a 2nd round draft pick... And first of all u cant compare Sammy to Gaborik bc Gaborik has played under a Defense only system until really this season... Sammy his whole time in Boston was asked to be a top producer and never lived up to those expectations. Maybe thats not who he is. He is clearly only a 60 point per season type of guy...And hey nothing wrong with that...Getting 60 from a 2nd liner isnt all that bad... BUT wait didnt we get on Ribs case bc thats about all he was ever gonna be and that was not good enough for this team. And hes only making 1.9 compared to Sammys 3.5. And the way Ribs is playing, he is gonna be getting close to 75 points... And everytime in the past people were always like "We dont need to worry bout Sammy, hes over-rated"...But now hes a Hab and its "Oh wait hes not a Bruin anymore, so he is one hell of a player and his 60 points a season doesnt mean anything"...Whateva!...But the fact is Ive seen him play all those years ever game and if he couldnt do much with Joe on his line then do u really expect him to live up to 3.5 million for 3 years. DOUBT IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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