cube_mtl Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 yep, TRADE is the answer!!! the fact, that carbo/gainey trade ribs for niimimaa says enough... there's no trust and room for streit. so i really don't believe we'll see a soon happy end for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franck5890 Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 The thing is, the NHL is a business when it all comes down to it. It's not 100% about making players happy. It's true that Mark may be happy somewhere else; he may get time to shine, he may get more playing time. Maybe he wouldn't. Maybe he'd choke, maybe he'd succeed. Truth be told, he doesn't have a lot of market value right now though. Thus, why would Gainey send out someone who at least provides additional depth for the time being for what would likely be another fourth-line grinder, an untested prospect, or a draft pick? It's all about the fundamentals of economics... Sell at the highest possible point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koh19 Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 streit would have more success on another team, that's for sure like you guys said. Carbo should make him play to get points so that his value goes up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest js2 Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 I would love for Streit to get a chance since he struck a nerve in me. BUT given the Habs D he should not. This is not about what is right for the player but what is right for the team. Why would you sit a better player to let a worse player play - the Habs are in a fight to make the playoffs and streit is oldish. But it's more complicated than that since Streit could (or not) one day be better than our present top 6 D if the coach would let him play.I think that Carbo and Gainey only see Streit as spare parts and as sad as that is for Streit it is up to him to prove them wrong when a chance does come up. I agree that when Cube returns there will be a numbers problem and a trade will need to be made. Who do you trade? .Not any of our top 7 D since our defense is the weakest part of our team. Cote is young and can sit; that leaves Streit. As for Cote, I do not know what to make of that player yet. He may never be more than spare parts or not. Cote is back in Hamilton and will most likely be staying in Hamilton this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Handlanger Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 The thing is, the NHL is a business when it all comes down to it. It's not 100% about making players happy.It's true that Mark may be happy somewhere else; he may get time to shine, he may get more playing time. Maybe he wouldn't. Maybe he'd choke, maybe he'd succeed. Truth be told, he doesn't have a lot of market value right now though. Thus, why would Gainey send out someone who at least provides additional depth for the time being for what would likely be another fourth-line grinder, an untested prospect, or a draft pick? It's all about the fundamentals of economics... Sell at the highest possible point Exactly, I wanted to say the same the thing... if they wanna trade him, he needs to play a bit. I would not say he has no trade value, everybody saw him at the olympic games and 11 points in 43 games last season is not that bad for a first NHL season too, but he won't be worth a lot if traded now.... He cannot be sent down too, without clearing waivers. That won't happen... he's much better than last year, and he wasn't even sent down last year. Last but not least... I don't think an upcoming trade will involve him... it will involve one of the guys who are UFA next year (Markov, Souray, Rivet, Niinimaa). Gaines cannot sign them all, and they are working against our cap space a lot more than Streit does. Moreover, I don't think they have a problem with him, he showed in the preseason what he is able to do. I just think they took the chance to get rid of Ribs, maybe now Niiniimaa needs to play to trade him again. I can see Markov and Rivet staying, Souray and and Niinimaa going away. Which would leave us with: Markov - Komisarek Streit - Bouillon Dandenault - Rivet Fisher ist not yet ready... Emelin won't be here already... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lindros_jr Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Exactly, I wanted to say the same the thing... if they wanna trade him, he needs to play a bit. I would not say he has no trade value, everybody saw him at the olympic games and 11 points in 43 games last season is not that bad for a first NHL season too, but he won't be worth a lot if traded now.... He cannot be sent down too, without clearing waivers. That won't happen... he's much better than last year, and he wasn't even sent down last year. Last but not least... I don't think an upcoming trade will involve him... it will involve one of the guys who are UFA next year (Markov, Souray, Rivet, Niinimaa). Gaines cannot sign them all, and they are working against our cap space a lot more than Streit does. Moreover, I don't think they have a problem with him, he showed in the preseason what he is able to do. I just think they took the chance to get rid of Ribs, maybe now Niiniimaa needs to play to trade him again. I can see Markov and Rivet staying, Souray and and Niinimaa going away. Which would leave us with: Markov - Komisarek Streit - Bouillon Dandenault - Rivet Fisher ist not yet ready... Emelin won't be here already... I totally agree with what u think the D situation will be. But I do think if they trade Souray BG can package him with Abby and then we can get a top 4 Damn in return or a top 6 forward, whichever the need is. It wouldnt be a bad move for either position with QUALITY depth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest natey2k4 Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 We need to play Streit and sit Dandenault. Another penalty that could of almost cost us the game last night with just under 2 minutes left. Dandenault grew on me last year, but started off on the wrong foot again this year. He's not having much playing time, so why not give Streit a shot in his place next game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franck5890 Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Yeah, lets sit the defenseman who's working the hardest and skating the fastest out there on a consistent basis. He's really the only D other than Komisarek who's moving his feet on the ice, and he's creating chances and moving the puck better than the rest of the lot. I respect your opinion, but sometimes I don't quite understand the motives. I also think pairing a brand new defenseman with Dandenault show's how confident Gainey/Carbonneau are and what they think of his skills. So maybe Streit does deserve to get out there, but to be honest, no one has done ENOUGH wrong to be benched at this point in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest natey2k4 Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 I think Dandenault is a good player and if it weren't for his irresponsible penalties, he could be an elite defenceman in the league. He's always taking penalties at the wrong points during the game. And while I agree he works hard, those penalties kill us. Komisarek and Markov are both outplaying Dandenault. And Souray, Rivet, and Niinimaa are all pretty close. I really don't mind Dandenault, I hated him last year but he grew on me by the end of the year. I was expecting a great year out of him like the last half of last season. Just he went back to the same ways of irresponsible penalties and I hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest js2 Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 I think Dandenault is a good player and if it weren't for his irresponsible penalties, he could be an elite defenceman in the league. He's always taking penalties at the wrong points during the game. And while I agree he works hard, those penalties kill us.Komisarek and Markov are both outplaying Dandenault. And Souray, Rivet, and Niinimaa are all pretty close. I really don't mind Dandenault, I hated him last year but he grew on me by the end of the year. I was expecting a great year out of him like the last half of last season. Just he went back to the same ways of irresponsible penalties and I hate it. If you watch the games you'll notice all his penalties are borderline and probably shouldnt even be called. And you'll also notice that hes our top defenceman out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tony Montana Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 We need to sit murray downey or lats 1 game and play streit 7 D streit gets PP minutes with markov and souray how it should really go down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckhound73 Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 Looks like Streit is finally going to have a REAL chance to prove himself!! I cant wait to see him on the ice. PS. Lets hope Dande and Rivet arent gone for to long... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted October 15, 2006 Report Share Posted October 15, 2006 This is Streit's year to prove he can hold down a starting roster spot in the NHL. He's got the speed and the offensive smarts, but still, to my mind, needs to work on his positional play on the smaller NHL rinks. It's tantalizing to think about his offensive upside, though: if he could become more solid defensively, he'd be a boon on the regular PP unit with his slap passes and vision. I hope things work out for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dopplig Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/215049.html :!: Streit est prêt :!: Tout porte à croire tout de même que le défenseur suisse Mark Streit va faire sa rentrée cette saison. L'entraîneur a indiqué que peu importe les blessures, il envisageait d'envoyer Streit dans la mêlée dans un des deux prochains matchs de l'équipe, quitte à faire appel à sept défenseurs. "Je ne voulais pas que Mark reste inactif trop longtemps, a-t-il expliqué. Il a écopé en raison de l'arrivée de Janne Niinimaa, mais il s'est comporté comme un professionnel. Il n'a jamais baissé de niveau à l'entraînement. On voit qu'il est plus à l'aise, plus confiant, à sa deuxième saison dans la Ligue nationale." Streit, qui a connu un bon camp, n'a pas cédé au découragement face à la "situation difficile" à laquelle il est confrontée. "Il n'y a rien que je puisse faire, a-t-il souligné, en se disant "très heureux" du début de saison que connaît l'équipe. Je sais que les choses peuvent changer rapidement. Je m'efforce donc de rester positif et d'être prêt advenant qu'on ait besoin de mes services. Il est vrai que je me sens plus fort et plus confiant par rapport à la saison dernière." Le capitaine de l'équipe nationale suisse, âgé de 28 ans, a pris part à 48 matchs en 2005-06, se forgeant une fiche de deux buts et de neuf passes, en plus d'un différentiel de moins-6 en défense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Handlanger Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 This is Streit's year to prove he can hold down a starting roster spot in the NHL. He's got the speed and the offensive smarts, but still, to my mind, needs to work on his positional play on the smaller NHL rinks. It's tantalizing to think about his offensive upside, though: if he could become more solid defensively, he'd be a boon on the regular PP unit with his slap passes and vision. I hope things work out for him. Well he was pretty solid defensively in preseason as well as he added some weight to not be pushed around anymore. It is his year to prove, but he has to be given the chance, and play one game and then sit 3 is not be given an shot.... he needs to have icetime to show his skills... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Makal22 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 He's gonna be a factor in our PP to step it up on offense...he's quick like bouillon (cept a few inches higher lol) so he'll be able to jump into plays like you never saw him coming... He's gonna be the man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zachary-jean Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Looks like he'll get a chance with Dandenault going down. I hope he shows everyone he belongs!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koh19 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Awesome, finally streit gets to prove what he's worth and that he should be in the lineup every game! Go Habs, Go Streit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckhound73 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Mark Streit and Janne Niinimaa are going to play together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey_gal89 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Well-finally we'll get to see what Streit can do-no more excuses. Who knows, maybe he'll earn a regular spot in that time frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
75danis Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 I thought Streit was solid on the PP last season. IMO he doesn't make many mistakes. This will be his shot. Let's hope he can step it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dopplig Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 YESSSSSSSSSSSS !!! it's Mark-Time now.... http://www.canadiens.com/eng/news/redirect...newsItemID=5258 With Dandenault out, Mark Streit will get to make his season debut after sitting out Montreal’s first four games, with the Swiss blue liner slated to take Dandenault’s spot alongside Janne Niinimaa. “Mark worked really hard ever since the beginning of training camp and he deserves his shot,” said Carbonneau of Streit, who enjoyed a solid preseason with the 28-year-old notching a goal and two assists in five games. “Even when we picked up Niinimaa, Mark never hung his head or stopped working. I know he’ll be ready to step in.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Handlanger Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 YESSSSSSSSSSSS !!! it's Mark-Time now....http://www.canadiens.com/eng/news/redirect...newsItemID=5258 “Even when we picked up Niinimaa, Mark never hung his head or stopped working. I know he’ll be ready to step in.” That's my Swiss workhorse... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 Go STREIT GO!!! I cant wait to see him play - he was great in preseason and hopefully he will be just as great today. Ever since last season I was telling everyone that this guy is going to be something. It took him some time to adjust but hes proven that hes ready to play in the NHL!!! Hey, maybe he might even score a goal tonight!!! Go STREIT GO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey_gal89 Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 That's my Swiss workhorse... Dude-you need to update your sig. Ribeiro's toast. Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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