franck5890 Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 NEWSBREAK..... It is very, very unlikely that Perezhogin will ever be playing another game for the Montreal Canadiens... I don't get the point. Neither will Souray, but we still talk about him. Perezhogin is at least still affiliated with the organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobineau Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 André Savard summed it up pretty well, he said that after the incident in the AHL, Perezhogin was never the same. End of Story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey_gal89 Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Everytime he was put on one of the two scoring lines he either got a point or played a huge part in the teams offence. The rest of the time, which was most of the games he played, was the 3rd line where defence comes first and he led the team in the plus/minus category for most of the season. If he had always played on one of the scoring line where he belonged, then his point total would be a lot higher than what it was. I don't understand this idea of handing a 1st line spot to an unproven player out of entitlement. Just because a player is projected to be a 1st line player when they're drafted, it doesn't automatically make them a 1st liner. I mean Alexandre Daigle was supposed to be a frenchise player for Ottawa when he was drafted, but that doesn't mean you throw a franchise player contract his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest js2 Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 I don't understand this idea of handing a 1st line spot to an unproven player out of entitlement. Just because a player is projected to be a 1st line player when they're drafted, it doesn't automatically make them a 1st liner. I mean Alexandre Daigle was supposed to be a frenchise player for Ottawa when he was drafted, but that doesn't mean you throw a franchise player contract his way. Daigle was rushed and never had the chance to fully develop. And Perezhogin proved many times that he belonged on the 1st or 2nd line but when Higgins went down Latendresse(a very unproven player) was given the spot without showing any signs of his offensive ability before hand. Perezhogin was one of our more dangerous offensive players we had and yet he never got a real stint on one of our scoring lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jzun00 Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Daigle was rushed and never had the chance to fully develop. And Perezhogin proved many times that he belonged on the 1st or 2nd line but when Higgins went down Latendresse(a very unproven player) was given the spot without showing any signs of his offensive ability before hand. Perezhogin was one of our more dangerous offensive players we had and yet he never got a real stint on one of our scoring lines. I agree. You know, now that I think of it, I wonder about all the penalties that this kid took and wonder if they could be corelated to some level of frustration as a result of a lack of offensive opportunity. Oh well, it doesn't matter know. What career can we ruin now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobineau Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 Daigle was rushed and never had the chance to fully develop. Perezhogin was one of our more dangerous offensive players we had and yet he never got a real stint on one of our scoring lines. Not exactly, 15 goals in 128 games is NOT a dangerous offensive player. He had numerous chances to produce on a offensive line but he never did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 71ribeiro71 Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 First long losing streak this season and Carbo may not coach another game for the Montreal Canadiens..., LOL. Carbo also screwed up on goalie selection against the leafs... experiance or not, a rusty goalie (huet) is never better than a hot goalie (halak)... nothing against huet, he was injured and rushed back, not his fault at all... and theres a reason CARBO picked LATENDRESSE over perezhogin... gotta please the fans and media in montreal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miltie01 Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 First long losing streak this season and Carbo may not coach another game for the Montreal Canadiens..., LOL. Carbo also screwed up on goalie selection against the leafs... experiance or not, a rusty goalie (huet) is never better than a hot goalie (halak)... nothing against huet, he was injured and rushed back, not his fault at all... and theres a reason CARBO picked LATENDRESSE over perezhogin... gotta please the fans and media in montreal The reason was Perry's not caring about helping the Habs win. You can tell by how fast he ran when someone waved a few more dollars in his face !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 71ribeiro71 Posted September 27, 2007 Report Share Posted September 27, 2007 The reason was Perry's not caring about helping the Habs win. You can tell by how fast he ran when someone waved a few more dollars in his face !!!! That must be it... think about it... its obvious no one can stat the real reason with being suspended from the forum...but truthfully i would run too... he didn't produce goals this year but he did lead in +/- on our shut down line... he did the job he was given,the line up of bonk, johnson and perezhogin were not meant to score alot last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest js2 Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Not exactly, 15 goals in 128 games is NOT a dangerous offensive player. He had numerous chances to produce on a offensive line but he never did. He played most of the season with Bonk and Johnson. When he was on either the 2nd or 1st line for the few times last season he got a point or was dominant in the offensive zone. Also, remember in his first NHL game when he was put on the 1st line with Koivu and scored? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smoke Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Perezhogan was a huge loss to our team. Im sure he had a decent trade value if nothing else, It seems as if we keep losing good players for nothing in return. I really enjoyed watching this kid play. I wish he was still with the team. Stuff Happens hes gone, as he felt he wasnt trated properly, but @ the same time you cant really blame him. Im sure he will be a star in his league for the x amount of time he is there, and maybe one of these days he will return.. Who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey_gal89 Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 He played most of the season with Bonk and Johnson. When he was on either the 2nd or 1st line for the few times last season he got a point or was dominant in the offensive zone. Also, remember in his first NHL game when he was put on the 1st line with Koivu and scored? So? Steve Brule won a cup ring playing in the final for Jersey but you don't see people clamoring around to acquire him for their cup run. Same as you don't see people lining up to acquire the rights to Alex Perezhogin. Because that's what would be happening if this guy is half the offensive threat people say he is. People would be offering Gainey just enough in a trade to help the Habs now to sneak away this monster offensive threat and pull the wool over Gainey's eyes. Because eventhough he's playing in the Russian league for now, a couple of seasons down the road from now, he'd be invaluable to whoever picks him up. But the truth of the matter is, there is no line up of GM's clawing at each other to steal away this "Offensive threat" from the Habs. Because the 29 other teams in the league already have plenty of 15 point scorers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest js2 Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Bringing up his point total over and over again isn't right for someone that had to played on the 3rd line for most of the season with Bonk and Johnson. And it's not like we can see a line up of GM's clawing at eachother to get guys like Koivu, Higgins, or Kostitsyn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey_gal89 Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 Bringing up his point total over and over again isn't right for someone that had to played on the 3rd line for most of the season with Bonk and Johnson. And it's not like we can see a line up of GM's clawing at eachother to get guys like Koivu, Higgins, or Kostitsyn. So it is not fair for me to bring up his point totals to prove my point; but it's perfectly OK for you to bring up his +/- to prove your point? There's no point in discussing this any futher because it is in no way a fair or objective discussion...you've already tipped the scales in your favour with your unfair guidelines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobineau Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 and theres a reason CARBO picked LATENDRESSE over perezhogin... Ya, cuz HE can score goals... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest js2 Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 So it is not fair for me to bring up his point totals to prove my point; but it's perfectly OK for you to bring up his +/- to prove your point? There's no point in discussing this any futher because it is in no way a fair or objective discussion...you've already tipped the scales in your favour with your unfair guidelines. I brought up the differential because it shows his ability to help shut down other teams top lines when he's not even supposed to be a defence first type of guy. If he had steady time on one of the scoring lines then bringing up his point totals would be a valid point of whether hes useless or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey_gal89 Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 I brought up the differential because it shows his ability to help shut down other teams top lines when he's not even supposed to be a defence first type of guy. If he had steady time on one of the scoring lines then bringing up his point totals would be a valid point of whether hes useless or not. But see why would you just throw somebody on to a scoring line...Should they not to a degree have to earn it somehow? If he had put up 34 points in the 61 games he played (Rather than 34 in 128 career games) then I would agree with you; yes, they should give him a shot at the scoring line...Because putting up close to 35 points on a 3rd line would show that you have the potential to produce more with increased ice time. But putting up only 15 points doesn't demonstrate that you have an ability to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MTL_HABS_24 Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 But see why would you just throw somebody on to a scoring line...Should they not to a degree have to earn it somehow? If he had put up 34 points in the 61 games he played (Rather than 34 in 128 career games) then I would agree with you; yes, they should give him a shot at the scoring line...Because putting up close to 35 points on a 3rd line would show that you have the potential to produce more with increased ice time. But putting up only 15 points doesn't demonstrate that you have an ability to score. I agree with Mojo. Let's not confuse Perezhogin with a scoring threat. He has decent skills, but we have tons and tons of those guys. Granted he was also defensively responsible which is why he was mostly playing a checking role, but as far as his offensive potential is concerned, he was never going to play on the 1st 2 lines in Montreal based on his skillset. In his defense, I think that Carbonneau may have played a part in his decision to leave the NHL, on the other hand, it shows a lack of intestinal fortitude. He should have instead come back to the Habs and tried to prove Carbo wrong by making the most of his opportunities on the 3rd line. Some players thrive on playing an important role on the last 2 lines. Perezhogin took it personally that he wouldn't be able to dislodge Kovalev or Ryder from the top 2 lines and figured he'd try it in the RSL -- at 3X what he was being paid in Montreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miltie01 Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 When the going got tough, Perry got going.....all the way back to Russia. He was more commited to his bank balance than the Habs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted September 28, 2007 Report Share Posted September 28, 2007 When the going got tough, Perry got going.....all the way back to Russia. He was more commited to his bank balance than the Habs. When the going got tough Perry was in the press box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1970 Habs Posted September 29, 2007 Report Share Posted September 29, 2007 When the going got tough, Perry got going.....all the way back to Russia. He was more commited to his bank balance than the Habs. As are most players in the NHL I might add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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