crognalsen Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 I think it's kinda silly to expect players to produce non stop the whole season. Everyone has thier bad times during the season. Even the steady players like Koivu and Higgens will go through dry spells offensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KOIVU#11 Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 He has 10 shots in his last 5 games... not exactly great. be patient they'll all have their slumps. I'm sure Ryder will come out of it. No need to get worried he'll be fine I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JL Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 He has 10 shots in his last 5 games... not exactly great. Tough to shoot from the bench! We're taking so many penalties that Ryder's icetime is affected... :deal: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Tough to shoot from the bench! We're taking so many penalties that Ryder's icetime is affected... :deal: I agree 100% JL, as I've said in the Samsonov and Kovalev thread, these guys need to play, and we need them to play, Ryder falls under that group, we need to stay out of the box so we can get our best players on the ice... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habgab Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Where is Ryder??First 7 games: 3 goals, 4 assists, 7 points Last 5 games: 1 goal, 0 assists, 1 point He needs to wake up because the second line has awoken and Higgins and Koivu are still there usual selves. He's been our worse forward in the top 3 lines in the past 5 games... Please, the worst forward in the past five games?? Define worst forward - not showing up on the scoresheet? Ryder is still on the ice, playing decently. Higgins and Koivu are getting the penalty kill time and opportunites there, while Ryder gets cold on the bench. Was it six games ago that Sammy was demoted to the 4th line? How can Ryder keep producing with the inconsistent ice time? Give him as much time as Kovalev gets, game in game out, and you will see a different player. Ryder's problem is not that he is the worst forward, it is that he is the most underestimated scorer on the team, and he has to produce despite the odds against him. If you want him on the scoresheet, criticize the number of penalties the team takes. Maybe Ryder is going in the pending Souray trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyv Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 you mean give him the 12:31 minutes of ice time Kovalev got last game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjcc526 Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 ryder will get a goal tonight,and if you trade him and souray,kiss playoffs and cup aspirations good-bye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest caperns Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Trade Ryder and Souray to Phoenix for Shane Doan and Keith Ballard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames4eva Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Trade Ryder and Souray to Phoenix for Shane Doan and Keith BallardNot a good idea... no trades until after January in any case-IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KOIVU#11 Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Trade Ryder and Souray to Phoenix for Shane Doan and Keith Ballard lol no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest COJAK33 Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 ahhhh...noooo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopII Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Trade Ryder and Souray to Phoenix for Shane Doan and Keith Ballard Worst trade, EVER. Ryder is a cornerstone to the Habs. when he hits a slump, it would be refreshing to NOT see bandwagon fans start yelling for a trade. And yet, it is funny when he scores a goal, suddenly he is 'the man' or 'the best'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keith Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 ryder will get a goal tonight,and if you trade him and souray,kiss playoffs and cup aspirations good-bye Based on what? Ryder and Souray might not stay here, it might be in our best interest to trade him out, either for another big defenceman or a good forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gottaHABit Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Based on what? Ryder and Souray might not stay here, it might be in our best interest to trade him out, either for another big defenceman or a good forward. Oh I dunno.... maybe the fact that Ryder has been only consistent sniper for the last 2 years, in spite of being injured for one of them. Ryder IS a good forward, and it make a lot more sense to get him more ice time than to give him away in some ridiculous trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs_fan1160 Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Ryder's had some good chances in the last couple of games but the bounces don't seem to be going his way. He'll break out offensivly soon. I suspect he'll get a goal against the Oilers tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habinto Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Based on what? Ryder and Souray might not stay here, it might be in our best interest to trade him out, either for another big defenceman or a good forward. Nothing personal and of course this is only my point of you and I respect you and all that but thank God your not the GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habgab Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Higgins is out for six weeks. That is horrible news for the Habs, but I think Ryder will pick it up now on the first line. I predict that this will become a very productive time for him, stats wise, with the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habinto Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 I think Ryder is a one dimensional 30 something goal scorer so the Habs need him. That's it. I don't love him and if we could trade him to upgrade the team so be it.I don't think he is the corner stone of this team. BUT we need goals to win. Go Ryder Go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hackett Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 I havent been a big fan of Ryders but he has put up the points when we need it. My only problem with him in the game against the Oilers was that he held onto the puck for tooo long - he needs to look around him and pass the puck when another player is open!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habgab Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 I havent been a big fan of Ryders but he has put up the points when we need it. My only problem with him in the game against the Oilers was that he held onto the puck for tooo long - he needs to look around him and pass the puck when another player is open!!!! Ah, did you see the Lats goal? Who was it that did all the work on that and set it up? Seems to me it was Ryder. There are times when he holds onto the puck too long and mightn't make a pass - however, Kovalev and Samonov and others are equally as guilty - stickhandling until the puck is lost and failing to capitalize on a shooting chance. Ryder played very well last night, as did the team as a whole. He had a defensive play that was outstanding and played well on the boards. Everyone on the team, EVERYONE, does something every game that we can sit back and criticize - Streit made that God awful defensive play yet was brilliant on the pass on the Rivet goal. Rivet had some defensive lapses yet that shot to the top corner of the net was amazing. Lats had some great hits and got his first goal but what was that shootout shot about? And, the list goes on....these are decisions made in a split second, with someone bearing down on you, and are easy to second guess. This is a team. Everyone brings something to it. I believe Ryder plays to the best of his ability most nights, as do the others on the team. If Ryder disadvantaged the Habs, he would not be playing. If he holds onto the puck for too long, in the opinion of the coaches, he can be taught not to because if there is one thing for sure, given Ryder's struggles to make the NHL despite all the obstacles placed in his way, he is an avid student wanting to improve to be the best he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs-24 Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Ryder cant be handling the puck in the offensive zone thats not is duty, he needs to get in the open areas and look for the pass (in the slot on the half boards and so on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gumper Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Ryder cant be handling the puck in the offensive zone thats not is duty, he needs to get in the open areas and look for the pass (in the slot on the half boards and so on) higgins is out, they need someone to do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habinto Posted November 8, 2006 Report Share Posted November 8, 2006 Ryder cant be handling the puck in the offensive zone thats not is duty, he needs to get in the open areas and look for the pass (in the slot on the half boards and so on) I agree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs-24 Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 higgins is out, they need someone to do it yea but that aint ryder, because he cant handle the puck....he just goes down the boards all the time and gets rubbed off the puck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Seventy-Three Posted November 9, 2006 Report Share Posted November 9, 2006 Ryder played very well last night, as did the team as a whole. He had a defensive play that was outstanding and played well on the boards. Everyone on the team, EVERYONE, does something every game that we can sit back and criticize - Streit made that God awful defensive play yet was brilliant on the pass on the Rivet goal. Rivet had some defensive lapses yet that shot to the top corner of the net was amazing. Lats had some great hits and got his first goal but what was that shootout shot about? And, the list goes on....these are decisions made in a split second, with someone bearing down on you, and are easy to second guess. This is a team. Everyone brings something to it. I believe Ryder plays to the best of his ability most nights, as do the others on the team. If Ryder disadvantaged the Habs, he would not be playing. If he holds onto the puck for too long, in the opinion of the coaches, he can be taught not to because if there is one thing for sure, given Ryder's struggles to make the NHL despite all the obstacles placed in his way, he is an avid student wanting to improve to be the best he can be. I agree. A really strong game by Ryder last night vs the Oilers. I thought he looked really comfortable holding onto the puck longer and seemed to be the only player trying to think outside the box. I especially liked the fact that most times he hung on to the puck simply to force the play over the blueline and into the corner, so he could pass it back to the defence and setup a play. I'd guess that 7 or 8 shots by the defense last night came from a play setup by Ryder. Smart playmaking, for sure. I can see Ryder picking up the slack on the scoresheet for Higgins. That's if Latendresse doesn't beat him too it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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