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I hope somebody's gonna lecture him about his ''puck-eating''!

He HAS to know that he's not alone on the ice.

I'm pretty positive that the reason behind that is the coaching staff telling him to shoot the puck. He's the "goal scorer" on the team, so why would he pass it all the time.

They're probably wanting him to get lots of shots on goal, hoping that his wrister is good enough to get it in the back of the net.

I wouldn't call it "puck-eating" as he was fifth on the team with assists last season. You don't get fifth on any team for assists for hogging the puck.

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All I want to see from Ryder this year is more one timers, I noticed he didn't have nearly as many one timed rockets like he did the year before, he has a weapon, he needs to use that weapon as often as possible. It could be the difference between scoring 30 goals and 38 goals.

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I hope somebody's gonna lecture him about his ''puck-eating''!

He HAS to know that he's not alone on the ice.

Man I'm really getting sick of this "Puck Hog" label. IF anything Kovalev's more of a puck hog because all he does is play a very pretty looking game of keep away only to lose his handle on the puck in the offensive zone.

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when he is on the ice w/someone who knows how to put the puck in the net then he'll paass more.for now just keep shootin,more if need be!

Who'd he play with most of last year... Koivu and Higgins? They each had 22 goals and could've had more.

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I would like to add that being the 5th leading assist man on a them where only 3 players had more than 48 pts is not saying a lot. As mentionned before, there is nothing wrong with Ryder shooting the puck, but for the love of humanity don t carry the puck into the offensive zone. The same could be said of Souray, yes he has a rocket of a shot, but every time he tried to carry the puck....... I couldnt help but think just pass it already

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Who'd he play with most of last year... Koivu and Higgins? They each had 22 goals and could've had more.

Probably the wrong thread to ask , but how do you know for sure, they could have had more ?

No one can predict the future

And I recall seeing alot of hi lights where Saku's giveaway's led directly to goals which contibuted to the awfull plus minus of both players

As for Saku, 22 goals was a career year , one of 3 times in his career he's played the full season .

For the life of me I don't understand why people call Ryder a puck hog :rolleyes:

He's no worse than anyone else and at least Ryder scores goals , some players don't do anything

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Ryder should shoot every opportunity he has, he's our only scorer on the team, I think if he took more shots he'd be a 50 goal scorer easy. Why waste a pass to people who don't score and cough up the puck? If we can all concede that Ryder is a constant at scoring, he should limit the passes he makes and go for shots. On top of that, when he did pass it it usually results into a koivu giveaway goal and that's why Ryder had such a horrible plus minus. It was really bad luck for Ryder to post a -25. If ryder wasn't there to score all his goals, Koivu and Souray probably would have had even worse plus minus scores. Ryder really made Koivu look good in that department! And now people want to trade Ryder because the only thing he can do is score, and apparently that's a bad thing.

I know Ryder will stay in Montreal, Bob Gainey will sign him for 4 yrs at 22M after this year's contract.

Take that to the bank!

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Ryder should shoot every opportunity he has, he's our only scorer on the team, I think if he took more shots he'd be a 50 goal scorer easy. Why waste a pass to people who don't score and cough up the puck? If we can all concede that Ryder is a constant at scoring, he should limit the passes he makes and go for shots. On top of that, when he did pass it it usually results into a koivu giveaway goal and that's why Ryder had such a horrible plus minus. It was really bad luck for Ryder to post a -25. If ryder wasn't there to score all his goals, Koivu and Souray probably would have had even worse plus minus scores. Ryder really made Koivu look good in that department! And now people want to trade Ryder because the only thing he can do is score, and apparently that's a bad thing.

I know Ryder will stay in Montreal, Bob Gainey will sign him for 4 yrs at 22M after this year's contract.

Take that to the bank!

i disagree sorry...

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Probably the wrong thread to ask , but how do you know for sure, they could have had more ?

No one can predict the future

And I recall seeing alot of hi lights where Saku's giveaway's led directly to goals which contibuted to the awfull plus minus of both players

As for Saku, 22 goals was a career year , one of 3 times in his career he's played the full season .

For the life of me I don't understand why people call Ryder a puck hog :rolleyes:

He's no worse than anyone else and at least Ryder scores goals , some players don't do anything

Yeah, this guys takes too much flak for things he's not solely responsible for. My eyes roll with yours!

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So if ovechkin played here would we be laying into him too for being a puck hog? because lord knows he takes about double the shots per game that Ryder does, no one in washington is complaining though, because you get atleast 40 goals out of it. Here in Montreal, we want a player to not use his strengths, but use his weaknesses, that makes NO sense to me at all.

He needs to shoot, thats his job, he shouldn't touch the puck unless he is carrying it or about to shoot it, those who don't like that and think thats puck hogging, my suggestion is cover your eyes when he has the puck, and wait for the sound of the puck banking in off the post, then you can open them. After doing this about 15 times, you'll probably realize its not half as bad of a tactic as you think.

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Guest Miltie01

This guys job is to get into position and then let em fly !!!!

Brett Hull had a damn good career doing just that !!!!

As long as he is putting in 30 a year, there is always a spot on my team, and he will be much appreciated.

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But that's not Ryder. I don't know how many times I noticed plays where other players on the ice tuned the puck over (including Koivu) resulting in a goal where Ryder was doing what he was supposed to do. Several other times the goalie allowed a weak goal, again, nothing to do with Ryder's play. As a matter of fact, I'll go as far as saying that in spite of the bad +/- stats, Ryder has actually improved on the defensive aspect of his game to the point where defensive specialists Carbonneau, Jarvis and Muller gave Ryder more time on the PK last year! Don't get me wrong, he'll never win a Selke trophy, but he's far from being as bad defensively as some want to beleive, just looking at the +/- stats!

But it is on Ryder. He is usually the last guy getting back in the defensive zone shift after shift.

As for Koivu he never had a + - stat like last year. He always killed penalties. He had a horrible time finding the puck in his feet so I can contribute that to some of his turnovers. Also playing with a defensive unaware person like ryder made thinsg even worse.

And your analogy on Ryder playing penalty kill is correct expect for a couple of things.

********It was very early in the season last year and Carbo was probably trying to teach him to be more aware in the defensive zone. When he realized that wasn't going to happen he stopped putting him out there. Secondaly most times i seen Ryder killing penalties we were usually way ahead or behind on the scoresheet. O doubt he will get any this year on our team or any other team.

JL, i can understand you defending Ryder for his goaling scoring I can see you having 100 valid reasons. But, his defensive game and attention to learning that part of the game is horrendous and that is why every year Ryder ends up being demoted for a period of time.

Also he has been a thorn to sign since his Junior days. I don't think he really ever wanted to play here. At the time though it looked like we were the only team willing to give him a chance. He did however have to work extremly hard to earn his right to play in the big leagues. I salute him for that. I suspect if Claude Julian had not taken him up from the East Coast hockey league to the AHL and then the NHL we may not even have a thread about Michael Ryder.

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Man there are so many dissatisfied people with Ryder that maybe the team should trade him. Then everyone would see how much the team would miss his goal scoring.

Let me just state the obvious fact that every player has strengths and weaknesses. The fact is Ryder's strength is scoring goals and he has been the most consistent player on the team for the last three years. Regardless of his plus/minus he is the team's sniper and generally your top goal scorer does not play on the second line.

This is one of those times that reading the posts of some people that carry on about the weaknesses of the players and team justs sits wrong with me as a "Fan" when there are so many strengths that could be discussed. It is September and I wonder whatever happened to "Fans" looking ahead to the season and what could and can happen if all the right things......Oh well.

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Man there are so many dissatisfied people with Ryder that maybe the team should trade him. Then everyone would see how much the team would miss his goal scoring.

Let me just state the obvious fact that every player has strengths and weaknesses. The fact is Ryder's strength is scoring goals and he has been the most consistent player on the team for the last three years. Regardless of his plus/minus he is the team's sniper and generally your top goal scorer does not play on the second line.

This is one of those times that reading the posts of some people that carry on about the weaknesses of the players and team justs sits wrong with me as a "Fan" when there are so many strengths that could be discussed. It is September and I wonder whatever happened to "Fans" looking ahead to the season and what could and can happen if all the right things......Oh well.

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and soften barbs and stabs;

the backs of players bear,

the strongest wear and tear.

It's fun to criticize,

but is it always wise?

does thought process its mean,

or are we just, too keen?

Exhuberance is just great,

when we pronounce our fate;

yet hubris is forgiven,

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But it is on Ryder. He is usually the last guy getting back in the defensive zone shift after shift.

As for Koivu he never had a + - stat like last year. He always killed penalties. He had a horrible time finding the puck in his feet so I can contribute that to some of his turnovers. Also playing with a defensive unaware person like ryder made thinsg even worse.

And your analogy on Ryder playing penalty kill is correct expect for a couple of things.

********It was very early in the season last year and Carbo was probably trying to teach him to be more aware in the defensive zone. When he realized that wasn't going to happen he stopped putting him out there. Secondaly most times i seen Ryder killing penalties we were usually way ahead or behind on the scoresheet. O doubt he will get any this year on our team or any other team.

JL, i can understand you defending Ryder for his goaling scoring I can see you having 100 valid reasons. But, his defensive game and attention to learning that part of the game is horrendous and that is why every year Ryder ends up being demoted for a period of time.

Also he has been a thorn to sign since his Junior days. I don't think he really ever wanted to play here. At the time though it looked like we were the only team willing to give him a chance. He did however have to work extremly hard to earn his right to play in the big leagues. I salute him for that. I suspect if Claude Julian had not taken him up from the East Coast hockey league to the AHL and then the NHL we may not even have a thread about Michael Ryder.

dude,you just don't like ryder,admit it.you criticize our #1 goal scorer.He hits he hustles,he goes to the net.that's his game.set-up and defense isn't.Everyone who watches and knows hockey can see that.Do you want 4-#3rd lines out there,and try to win every game 2-1.that's not entertaining win or lose.why should he sign for less than kovy makes?.the only reasons i see people here not liking him is because he's not french or they are jealous of him

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Guest Paulin98C

Ryder is a sniper, he HAS TO take shots! I don't call that puck hugging.... Ryder has also shown he can pass, just take a look at these setups by Ryder.

Enjoy the show!

http://www.nhl.com/video/app?component=%24...2&sp=SGoals

http://www.nhl.com/video/app?component=%24...2&sp=SGoals

http://www.nhl.com/video/app?component=%24...2&sp=SGoals

one of my favorite... http://www.nhl.com/video/app?component=%24...2&sp=SGoals

This should be enough to shut some mouth off!

Ryder is a great player, Im glad he is staying for now... but I wouldnt mind trading him to get someone else better on the left wing.

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That had to be the worst poke check attempt I have ever seen! :lol:

dude,you just don't like ryder,admit it.you criticize our #1 goal scorer.He hits he hustles,he goes to the net.that's his game.set-up and defense isn't.Everyone who watches and knows hockey can see that.Do you want 4-#3rd lines out there,and try to win every game 2-1.that's not entertaining win or lose.why should he sign for less than kovy makes?.the only reasons i see people here not liking him is because he's not french or they are jealous of him

As much as I've tried, this is the only reason I can think of as to why we are hating on him. If it was Latendresse out there scoring 30 goals and not coming back on defence, nobody would have a problem with it.

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That had to be the worst poke check attempt I have ever seen! :lol:

As much as I've tried, this is the only reason I can think of as to why we are hating on him. If it was Latendresse out there scoring 30 goals and not coming back on defence, nobody would have a problem with it.

I agree with that as well. I remember one time a poster said why do people insist on Ryder learning defense when Latendresse plays even worse in the defensive zone than he does. Then the next poster said because Latendresse is a power forward and shouldnt worry about defense.

This happens a lot on these boards, where whats good for one player isnt good for the other. Some players get treated like gold by the media or fans no matter what mistakes they made and Im sure it goes beyond hockey skills.

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That had to be the worst poke check attempt I have ever seen! :lol:

As much as I've tried, this is the only reason I can think of as to why we are hating on him. If it was Latendresse out there scoring 30 goals and not coming back on defence, nobody would have a problem with it.

I give Latendresse no flack because he was a rookie learning his role in the NHL.

I also did not give Ryder a lot of flack as he is trying to improve and working on other areas of his game, and still scoring 30 goals a year while doing it !!!

I do not understand why some have a huge dislike towards Ryder.

I really don't care...He can be on my team !!!!

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I was demonstrating that Ryder didn't hug the puck on that play. He could of had pulled his "hotdog" move and then taken a shot on net. He instead showed some great passing by giving it to Latendresse through the D-man skates.

Latendresse showed great powerforward skills on that goal as well.

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I give Latendresse no flack because he was a rookie learning his role in the NHL.

I also did not give Ryder a lot of flack as he is trying to improve and working on other areas of his game, and still scoring 30 goals a year while doing it !!!

I do not understand why some have a huge dislike towards Ryder.

I really don't care...He can be on my team !!!!

My team, too,

support your view!

the problem is,

some can't see through!

If colored glasses are the cause,

then, look again, my friends, and pause,

before you snipe the sniper's heels,

before he even turns his wheels!

By chance, you might give all, a break,

before you know what's up, at stake;

the best is yet ahead, believe,

of nothing else, can I conceive!

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Ryder is ganna be such a great player ganna have more then 30 goals he is ganna be our #1 power play shoter cause he has a amazing shot!! and after the season i kno that Ryder is ganna sign a big contract with montreal and Bob will not trade him i love ryder and i want him to play for montreal and i believe he will for a while!!!! The magasins even say the heart and soul of the habs offence are RYDER, koivu, higgins, plekanec and Kovalev if you take 1 out that heart might be broken!! WOW thats our best offence and they mentioned it in my exact order!!! i want ryder to stay and i kno alot of you guys want him to stay also cause he is such an amazing player!!! :D

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HEY guys remember the flu 7-8 of our habs were ill and January 9 2007 was a day we had a game a few days after new years habs were sick but some still played but read wat they said about ryder!!

Ryder stars in win over Thrashers

Koivu picks up an assist for his 500th NHL career point

(01/09/2007)

MONTREAL (CP) - No one looked healthier or happier in the Montreal Canadiens dressing room than Michael Ryder.

The first-line winger scored twice and assisted on Guillaume Latendresse's third-period goal as the Canadiens rallied for 4-2 win over the Atlanta Thrashers on Tuesday night.

Ryder had been among of the sick as a gastro-intestinal virus raged through the team last week. But the entire squad reported healthy this time as Montreal ended a three-game losing streak.

'It's good to go out and not feel tired,' said Ryder, a 30-goal man last season who got his 12th and 13th goals. 'Definitely it was a hard week for me and some other guys.

'I think the day off we had (Monday) really helped. We played a good 60 minutes and it showed on the scoreboard. We knew we had to come back and start playing good hockey again and I think we did that.'

Greg de Vries scored in the first period and Brad Larsen scored in the second as Southeast Division-leading Atlanta (24-13-8) built a 2-0 lead.

Tomas Plekanec made it a one-goal game late in the second for Montreal (24-14-5) before Latendresse tied it 51 seconds into the third on a breakaway set up by Ryder.

'When you give up breakaways in the first minute, it's tough,' said Atlanta coach Bob Hartley, whose club was coming off two overtime losses in which it blew third-period leads.

'We played a pretty solid game, but it's just one of those stretches you go through. With the leadership we have, we'll turn the corner and we'll be a better team.'

Saku Koivu, who won 20 of his 24 faceoffs, won a draw from Steve Rucchin in the Atlanta zone and, two passes later on a set play, Ryder scored from the slot for his 12th goal of the season for the go-ahead goal at 9:40 of the third.

With 2:47 remaining, Koivu fed Ryder with a pass across the slot for a power-play goal. Koivu earned his 500th career point on the play and got a standing ovation from the sellout crowd of 21,273.

'The fans have been there for me so many times on different occasions and getting a standing ovation really felt good,' said Koivu. 'But there was five minutes to go and we'd lost a few games, so we had to stay focused and get these two points.

'But I was really touched by their reaction.'

The Thrashers are 1-3-2 in their last six games. And while they combined for 16 of Atlanta's 30 shots on Cristobal Huet, the big three shooters Ilya Kovalchuk, Marian Hossa and Slava Kozlov were held pointless.

The Canadiens had new-found jump in their game and outshot Atlanta 11-8 in the first but fell behind 1-0 when De Vries was left alone coming in from the point and banged in Glen Metropolit's centring pass at 13:28.

Larsen was left alone to convert Jean-Pierre Vigier's pass 10:36 into the second.

Plekanec got behind defenseman Braydon Coburn to deflect Mike Johnson's pass at 15:02. It was the Canadiens' first even-strength goal in four games.

A turnover at the Atlanta blue-line sent Ryder on a counter-attack down the right side to start the third. He fed Latendresse, who went in alone and lifted the puck over Kari Lehtonen.

Coach Guy Carbonneau was pleased to see Ryder end a slump that saw him score only one goal in seven games and drop to a team-worst minus-10. He was plus-1 in this match.

'Mike had a good start to the season but for whatever reason, he slowed down,' said Carbonneau. 'Maybe he was relying more on his talent than on his work.

'In today's NHL, you can't do that. Tonight, he went to the net and it paid off.'

Montreal is 2-0 against Atlanta this season and 17-6-3 all-time.

The Thrashers played the second game of a four-game road trip that takes them to New Jersey on Friday night and Carolina on Saturday. Montreal starts a three-game road series Thursday in Philadelphia, then heads to Ottawa on Saturday and Detroit on Monday.

I have to say that was my favorite game of the year and the first day i started liking ryder as my favorite player cause he was a big star that game and he showed montreal wat he is really made of and Koivu got his 500 cereer point!! :D

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