Guest Rainman Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Traditionally, from what I understand from my trip to Newfoundland a few years ago, Newfoundlanders have always been cheering for the Leafs in majority.However, I think Michael may be bringing a wind of change to Canada's youngest province Hey, what about Nunavut? LOL Little doubt in my mind that the overall increased speed of the team this year will spell more points for Mr. Ryder, as well. And the atmosphere of intra-team support seems stronger on the Habs, even this early in the season. That's what wins championships. Here's hoping Michael keeps on rollin'... shoot, shoot, shoot, Michael! GO HABS GO !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hab Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Hey, what about Nunavut? LOLLittle doubt in my mind that the overall increased speed of the team this year will spell more points for Mr. Ryder, as well. And the atmosphere of intra-team support seems stronger on the Habs, even this early in the season. That's what wins championships. Here's hoping Michael keeps on rollin'... shoot, shoot, shoot, Michael! GO HABS GO !!! Nunavut's a territory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest futon Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 True, but he was a leafs fan. No lie In Newfoundland at that time many people were Leafs fans and as a kid Ryder was exposed, as many were then, to the St. John's Maple Leafs, so many many kids were leafs fans because of that. I can honestly say tho that in the two years since the baby Leafs bailed on St. John's, and left bad feelings among a lot of hockey fans, you see way more Habs fans popping up now. I see way more people in Habs gear around town the past while, I used to feel lonely! Having Ryder on the team helps too. For a LONG time Habs fan like myself it's good to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest d80jcrant Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Admit it guys. How many of you were cussing(or at least mad) when you saw Ryder being sent out in the SO?I know I was I was pissed when I saw him going up...I wanted Sammy to go...But I am very glad Ryder proved me wrong and eat my words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest d80jcrant Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Ryder will have a career year this year no doubt about it. He will probally come just shy of 40 goals. and about high 70's in points...Just my opinion. That will wake B.G up and Ryder will get signed for a 2 or 3 year deal. I just would like to know where are the Ryder bashers now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Captain Koivu#11 Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Ryder had a niiiice shootout goal last night, ironically it was the winner :wink: Yes it was a nice shot. He didn't have too much luck with the deke (sp?) in the shootout loss against Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex-Habsfan23 Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 Yes it was a nice shot. He didn't have too much luck with the deke (sp?) in the shootout loss against Buffalo. No, he didn't have much luck.... He said that if he gets another chance, he's going to shoot. He did, and he won us the game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keith Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 How much and for how long do you guys think we will sign him for? I know it's pretty uneducated at this point, but he has improved, utilizes teamwork better, and should top his 30 goal season with ease. So let's say he bags 40, how much and for how long do we sign him for? I would think 3-4mill at 4 years, 3 is pretty low however if he proves very good at bagging goals this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zachary-jean Posted October 8, 2006 Report Share Posted October 8, 2006 How much and for how long do you guys think we will sign him for? I know it's pretty uneducated at this point, but he has improved, utilizes teamwork better, and should top his 30 goal season with ease.So let's say he bags 40, how much and for how long do we sign him for? I would think 3-4mill at 4 years, 3 is pretty low however if he proves very good at bagging goals this season. Yeah...I'd like to lock him up for 3-4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franck5890 Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I'm sure if he has decent point production by mid-season, Bob will be trying to lock him up before the free agency period, to score him at the lowest price possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest P.Royfan Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Also, I would be a bit annoyed, if I was him, that he had to seek arbitration this year while Ribeiro, for example, was given a big raise. He selected to got arbitration but Gainey and Ryder signed a contract before his hearing. Arbitration had nothing to do with his salary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habgab Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I understand that arbitration had nothing to do with his salary. However, the fact that he had to schedule arbitration would seem to mean that he did not believe that the salary offered was sufficient. We can therefore assume that it was something less than the 2.1 settled on, and as Ribeiro had signed for 1.9, I would see that as an insult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest futon Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I had heard Ryder was offered 1 000 000- 1.1 million again for this season by Gainey, and after he had a better season than the previous year, I'd select arbitration too. Happily they came to an agreement that seemed appropiate to both. That's just negotiation. If he does even better this year then a muliti year contract would be smart. How many times does he need to prove himslef if he has an even better season this year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habgab Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Negotiation it may be, however if that is in fact what was offered by the Habs (and they had signed Ribeiro with no arbitration threat necessaryfor 1.9), wouldn't that be upsetting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IhateToronto Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I wish Gainey had locked Ryder up for longer than one year. It's of course 10 month too early to start worrying, but cap space might well be an issue next summer... Even if he unloads Aebischer and Bonk, Bob's going to have his work cut out for him with all of our UFA defensemen and talented young guns looking for an upgrade. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LesCanadiensxo Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I wish Gainey had locked Ryder up for longer than one year. It's of course 10 month too early to start worrying, but cap space might well be an issue next summer... Even if he unloads Aebischer and Bonk, Bob's going to have his work cut out for him with all of our UFA defensemen and talented young guns looking for an upgrade.. Yes i know me too! I wish that they signed him for a longer deal. He's too good to let him slip away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keith Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I had heard Ryder was offered 1 000 000- 1.1 million again for this season by Gainey, and after he had a better season than the previous year, I'd select arbitration too. Happily they came to an agreement that seemed appropiate to both. That's just negotiation. If he does even better this year then a muliti year contract would be smart. How many times does he need to prove himslef if he has an even better season this year? Hopefully we lock him up long term well, I'd hate to have to pay him more short term(especially if he improves more), rather sign him long term and pay him for being a goal scorer(I'm guessing 4mil a year), because that way if he improves there are no worries as we have him well into his prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovy1010 Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Hopefully we lock him up long term well, I'd hate to have to pay him more short term(especially if he improves more), rather sign him long term and pay him for being a goal scorer(I'm guessing 4mil a year), because that way if he improves there are no worries as we have him well into his prime. Ryders not worth 4 million. If Kovalev and Koivu make 4.5 million and score at a point per game pace, Ryder should make 3 million max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keith Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Ryders not worth 4 million. If Kovalev and Koivu make 4.5 million and score at a point per game pace, Ryder should make 3 million max. You're kidding right? Ryder actually shows up every game, he's became a consistent go to scorer, he's worked hard every off season to become better. If we lock him up now when he might only seem like a goal scorer, there's low risk in him faultering at this point, and a good chance in year 2 of a 4/5 year deal that he becomes a great all round player. No matter what he will be a good goal scorer, if we can lock him in long term(and I think they will because he's UFA a couple years from now) for that much, it could be a serious jackpot down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KOIVU#11 Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I'd say we pull a Garth Snow and sign him for 15 years, 67 mill.. Make sure hes a hab for life.... haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovy1010 Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 You're kidding right? Ryder actually shows up every game, he's became a consistent go to scorer, he's worked hard every off season to become better. If we lock him up now when he might only seem like a goal scorer, there's low risk in him faultering at this point, and a good chance in year 2 of a 4/5 year deal that he becomes a great all round player.No matter what he will be a good goal scorer, if we can lock him in long term(and I think they will because he's UFA a couple years from now) for that much, it could be a serious jackpot down the road. Ryder is a 55-60 point player. Name me a 55-60 point player making 4 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp73 Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Ryder is a 55-60 point player. Name me a 55-60 point player making 4 million. Rick Nash Columbus Blue Jackets $ 4.5 million 4 years in the league: 39,57, and 54 pts , though last yr he missed 28 games and still put up 54 pts in 54 games sorry But there will always be some team silly enough to overpay a player Daniel Briere Buffalo $5 million most pts in his career : 65 pts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kovy1010 Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Rick NashColumbus Blue Jackets $ 4.5 million 4 years in the league: 39,57, and 54 pts , though last yr he missed 28 games and still put up 54 pts in 54 games sorry But there will always be some team silly enough to overpay a player Daniel Briere Buffalo $5 million most pts in his career : 65 pts You said it best. 54 points in 54 games. Ryder had one more then that in 27 more games! Briere was over a point per game last year as well. Ryder just does not compare to these two. Again this is no knock on Ryder, I just dont like overpaying people. Samsonov's overpayed too by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habgab Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 I glad you pointed that out about Samsonov. He will have to do something far greater than he has this year (and in his last few years) to make me believe that he is worth $3.5 million. However, if Ryder has another good year, it will take more than the $2.1 million to keep him, and Higgins and a few of the younger players are going to need more money too. As much as Kovalev may be the only true superstar on the team, I don't think he is worth it, and (dare I say this), Koivu is overpaid too comparatively speaking in the league. Bottom line is that the Habs have some good young talent that they will need to keep as the core of the team. They are going to have to be paid in accordance with their abilities in order to save them, and some of the higher salaries are going to have to be dealt with in order to make room, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hatethoseleafs Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 Only one problem with renegotiating Ryders contract right now. We are tight against the cap and cant afford to add much more THIS YEAR. The average amount of a new contract would count towards this years numbers so look for Bob to hold off till years end to try and make another deal with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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