Guest leafsreallysuck Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 No, that signing is starting to look real good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MTL_RULES Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 No, that signing is starting to look real good. It looked goo the day it was made. Great defensemen made good money, its that simple. He woudl've made more on the open market and I'm glad he decided not to try free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A Semin Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 Thank god he signed in here! He is a bargain if you look at the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nancur373 Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 As for the +/-, we should also get rid of half the team. I think we are forgetting that if our centerman isn't winning critical faceoffs our guys are going to be minus. Look at Koivu's +/-. Then take a look at poor Ryder's. If Koivu can't win the faceoffs in their end he gives up a lot of chances for the opposition to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyv Posted July 2, 2007 Report Share Posted July 2, 2007 I have to give Markov a round of applause, for being the ONLY player this summer to even want to sign here and do it. Enjoy the extra minutes Andrei, your going to be getting a boatload of them next season i'm afraid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JL Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Across the NHL for the past 3 years combined: Points 1. Scott Niedermayer, Ana (D) 186 2. Sergei Gonchar, Pit (D) 183 3. Nicklas Lidstrom, Det (D) 180 4. Bryan McCabe, Tor (D) 178 5. Chris Pronger, Ana (D) 169 6. Sergei Zubov, Dal (D) 167 7. Mathieu Schneider, Ana (D) 157 8. Tomas Kaberle, Tor (D) 156 9. Dan Boyle, TB (D) 155 10. Lubomir Visnovsky, LA (D) 154 11. Kimmo Timonen, Phi (D) 149 12. Brian Rafalski, Det (D) 140 13. Sheldon Souray, (D) 138 14. Marek Zidlicky, Nas (D) 132 15. Rob Blake, LA (D) 131 16. Wade Redden, Ott (D) 129 17. John-Michael Liles, Col (D) 127 18. Zdeno Chara, Bos (D) 127 19. Andrei Markov, Mtl (D) 123 20. Philippe Boucher, Dal (D) 118 Assists 1. Sergei Gonchar, Pit (D) 147 2. Scott Niedermayer, Ana (D) 144 3. Nicklas Lidstrom, Det (D) 141 4. Sergei Zubov, Dal (D) 135 5. Tomas Kaberle, Tor (D) 133 6. Chris Pronger, Ana (D) 130 7. Bryan McCabe, Tor (D) 128 8. Brian Rafalski, Det (D) 120 9. Kimmo Timonen, Phi (D) 113 10. Lubomir Visnovsky, LA (D) 111 11. Dan Boyle, TB (D) 111 12. Mathieu Schneider, Ana (D) 111 13. Marek Zidlicky, Nas (D) 102 14. Andrei Markov, Mtl (D) 101 15. Wade Redden, Ott (D) 95 16. Joni Pitkanen, Edm (D) 91 17. Rob Blake, LA (D) 90 18. Jay Bouwmeester, Fla (D) 89 19. John-Michael Liles, Col (D) 89 20. Paul Mara, NYR (D) 86 Source... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smoke Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Hes a great team player, i can see him playing his entire career here, or until we are done with him As sad as that sounds, Kind of like Rivet he would have played here until the end of his career, but look @ him now, hes probably loving the change, as he would have been offered 1.5-2 mill this year to stay here. Now he has a bigger role, and a bigger pay check. That being said, Markov is a great team player, could easily take Rivet's A on his jersey for next year. And i hope he does have a long great career with us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tony Montana Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Across the NHL for the past 3 years combined: Points 1. Scott Niedermayer, Ana (D) 186 2. Sergei Gonchar, Pit (D) 183 3. Nicklas Lidstrom, Det (D) 180 4. Bryan McCabe, Tor (D) 178 5. Chris Pronger, Ana (D) 169 6. Sergei Zubov, Dal (D) 167 7. Mathieu Schneider, Ana (D) 157 8. Tomas Kaberle, Tor (D) 156 9. Dan Boyle, TB (D) 155 10. Lubomir Visnovsky, LA (D) 154 11. Kimmo Timonen, Phi (D) 149 12. Brian Rafalski, Det (D) 140 13. Sheldon Souray, (D) 138 14. Marek Zidlicky, Nas (D) 132 15. Rob Blake, LA (D) 131 16. Wade Redden, Ott (D) 129 17. John-Michael Liles, Col (D) 127 18. Zdeno Chara, Bos (D) 127 19. Andrei Markov, Mtl (D) 123 20. Philippe Boucher, Dal (D) 118 Assists 1. Sergei Gonchar, Pit (D) 147 2. Scott Niedermayer, Ana (D) 144 3. Nicklas Lidstrom, Det (D) 141 4. Sergei Zubov, Dal (D) 135 5. Tomas Kaberle, Tor (D) 133 6. Chris Pronger, Ana (D) 130 7. Bryan McCabe, Tor (D) 128 8. Brian Rafalski, Det (D) 120 9. Kimmo Timonen, Phi (D) 113 10. Lubomir Visnovsky, LA (D) 111 11. Dan Boyle, TB (D) 111 12. Mathieu Schneider, Ana (D) 111 13. Marek Zidlicky, Nas (D) 102 14. Andrei Markov, Mtl (D) 101 15. Wade Redden, Ott (D) 95 16. Joni Pitkanen, Edm (D) 91 17. Rob Blake, LA (D) 90 18. Jay Bouwmeester, Fla (D) 89 19. John-Michael Liles, Col (D) 89 20. Paul Mara, NYR (D) 86 Source... Just to add Markov is better then 3/4 of these players defensivly also. He reads plays so well, he has amaizing hockey sence. Id put him in top 7 for breakout passes also. Not 2 many D have the vision he posseses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habinto Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Just to add Markov is better then 3/4 of these players defensivly also. He reads plays so well, he has amaizing hockey sence. Id put him in top 7 for breakout passes also. Not 2 many D have the vision he posseses. Markov is the complete package in term of skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Markov is the complete package in term of skills. Which is the reason I don't mind his contract. It's not just the pionts, not just his defensive skill, and not just his non-point offensive skill, it's that a defensman who can do it all is very valuable. He's similar to Pronger and Niedermayer except a step below them and the one element he is missing is the physical one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Which is the reason I don't mind his contract. It's not just the pionts, not just his defensive skill, and not just his non-point offensive skill, it's that a defensman who can do it all is very valuable. He's similar to Pronger and Niedermayer except a step below them and the one element he is missing is the physical one. Which Komi provides so it's all good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Which Komi provides so it's all good Oh it's not a big issue or anything, his positioning is so good I honestly don't know if being physical would really make him much better overall anyways, and as you said he has Komi beside him. I was just saying that when you look at the ultimate complete defensman in Pronger, Markov isn't quite at his level in a number of areas, but physical play is the only one that he's completely missing. Everywhere else, he's just a step below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tony Montana Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 You dont need to play physical when your smart. Look at Linstrom hes not physical and he gets the job done better then anyone else in the league deffensivly, and he even makes it look easy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JL Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Just to add Markov is better then 3/4 of these players defensivly also. He reads plays so well, he has amaizing hockey sence. Id put him in top 7 for breakout passes also. Not 2 many D have the vision he posseses. A little bias aren't we? Seriously, there are several defensemen I'd take before Markov on that list, and I really like Markov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRAB_84 Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 What would you guys say were some of the best plays Markov has made and some of the worst? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JL Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 What would you guys say were some of the best plays Markov has made and some of the worst? Hard to pin point specific plays, but his best quality in my opinion is his passing. I'm always amazed to see the cross ice passes in the offensive zone. He sees the play very well. His down side is his inconsistency. Again last year, he had a very slow start to the season and many were noticing even on this board. As dominant as he can be, he'll go through stretches where he'll turn the puck over too often and make poor decisions with the puck. I guess that's what keeps him from being an elite player in this league. If he ever becomes more consistent, he could some day get nominations for the Norris, as the abilities are there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Keith Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Hard to pin point specific plays, but his best quality in my opinion is his passing. I'm always amazed to see the cross ice passes in the offensive zone. He sees the play very well. Anyone remember the play in 05-06 where he threw it from just over our blue line at the goalie five hole, who was caught off guard and a forward on our team buried the rebound? That was unbelievable Hockey sense, I flipped when I saw that play unfold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Anyone remember the play in 05-06 where he threw it from just over our blue line at the goalie five hole, who was caught off guard and a forward on our team buried the rebound? That was unbelievable Hockey sense, I flipped when I saw that play unfold. He reads and senses play's very well, and how they will unfold when he makes it happening. That one you named Keith, was a beauty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Anyone remember the play in 05-06 where he threw it from just over our blue line at the goalie five hole, who was caught off guard and a forward on our team buried the rebound? That was unbelievable Hockey sense, I flipped when I saw that play unfold. I remember what you're talking about, I believe Esche was the goalie, and Ribeiro barried the rebound. (I also think Ribeiro won that game for us with an OT goal) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sportsfreak_39 Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 A few plays from last year I remember 1.OT winner vs Boston 2.Any one of his cross ice passes on the PP to Kovy 3. The pass where he split the dmen and fed it perfectly to Koivu who ended up scoring on a breakaway. Plus MARKOV HAS A PERSONALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! check out the front page on canadiens.com HE CAN TALK!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheQuestFor-25-IsAlive Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 A few plays from last year I remember 1.OT winner vs Boston 2.Any one of his cross ice passes on the PP to Kovy 3. The pass where he split the dmen and fed it perfectly to Koivu who ended up scoring on a breakaway. Plus MARKOV HAS A PERSONALITY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! check out the front page on canadiens.com HE CAN TALK!!!!!!!!!! Yeah!! He can talk eh..... Very intresting spotlight on Markov..... but then again I guess we should get to know him.... his here for another 4 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JL Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Spotlight on... Andrei Markov Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 His down side is his inconsistency. Again last year, he had a very slow start to the season and many were noticing even on this board. As dominant as he can be, he'll go through stretches where he'll turn the puck over too often and make poor decisions with the puck. I guess that's what keeps him from being an elite player in this league. If he ever becomes more consistent, he could some day get nominations for the Norris, as the abilities are there. No question about that. if he can ever get more consistent, he could challenge for the points race amongst defensman. Its no coincidence that the three times Gainey called him out publicly, he responded with 4, 3 and 3 point games. Im not saying he should be called out all the time - that wont help - but if he can find some more consistency (not due to a lack of effort, imo) he'll be (to quote mcguire) a MONSTER. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Hard to pin point specific plays, but his best quality in my opinion is his passing. I'm always amazed to see the cross ice passes in the offensive zone. He sees the play very well. His down side is his inconsistency. Again last year, he had a very slow start to the season and many were noticing even on this board. As dominant as he can be, he'll go through stretches where he'll turn the puck over too often and make poor decisions with the puck. I guess that's what keeps him from being an elite player in this league. If he ever becomes more consistent, he could some day get nominations for the Norris, as the abilities are there. True. He is highly consistant season to season, but he's kind of like Ryder in the sense that within a season, he is inconsistant. As for the Norris, I doubt it. Markov has always been underrated accross the league, and the Norris, like the Selke, is somewhat of a popularity award. But I suppose it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shamrun Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 What would you guys say were some of the best plays Markov has made and some of the worst? giving a hard time to ovechkin (and other really good forwards) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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