Guest xe_liam88 Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 I didnt see a valentenko thread so I thought I would put it in. Pavel Valentenko: http://www.canadiens.com/eng/team/redirect...;playerID=30578 This kid is supposed to be a force, and he was Russias number one pick. I also heard that this kid could have gone as high as the third round last year if it wasnt for the lack of a transfer agreement. I hope he is signed. Maybe hell turn out better than Emelin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Lammy Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 Never heard of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xe_liam88 Posted April 11, 2007 Report Share Posted April 11, 2007 sorry not Russias number one pick, he was their Best D-man during the WJC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shanahan1024 Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 Hes not bad he impressed me at the WJC, he needs work on his skating though, but he seems like a tough hard nosed player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest montreal Posted April 12, 2007 Report Share Posted April 12, 2007 It would be nice to see him in Hamilton next year, we are short on LD's so adding another one would be good. Personally I dont' think he's on the same level as Emelin but I've only seen Valentenko at the remax games and wjc's. Emelin at 19 was considered to be the top U-20 defensemen in Russia, and he was at one point leading his team in scoring (due to the fact that the team cut their budget by 50% at the half way point in the season, so many of their top scorers left) At this point I'd just be happy to see both Emelin and Valentenko signed and in camp next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest montreal Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Valentenko got injured at the prelim camp for Team Russia. I think it was a long shot for him to make the team with Markov taking one spot and hopefully Emelin getting a spot, that doesn't leave a lot of room. It was likely a great experience for him, hopefully he is in Hamilton next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hoser Posted April 17, 2007 Report Share Posted April 17, 2007 Isn't he under contract in Russia still? I know that doesn't mean a whole lot, but I think he won't come over until that agreement is over... So maybe the year after next. I have high hopes for him, though... Great kid, very solid defensivly and tough as nails, too. Was exceptional at the WJC, really stood out on a bad Russian defensive squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest montreal Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Isn't he under contract in Russia still? I know that doesn't mean a whole lot, but I think he won't come over until that agreement is over... So maybe the year after next.I have high hopes for him, though... Great kid, very solid defensivly and tough as nails, too. Was exceptional at the WJC, really stood out on a bad Russian defensive squad. He's under contract for the next 2 years, but Gainey said talks are going well, so I assume they will buy out his contract with Neftekhimik, although Gainey didn't go into detail at the press conference so I'm just assuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyv Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Gainey said he will have both signed this summer hopefully, but said Valentenko's contract talks were coming along much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Talon Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/colu...ad-9707b626409b Not a formal announcement but looks to be a done deal. Article also mentions why Mikus was not signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Habsfan_11 Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Good news about Valentenko. I think this kid is going to be something good for this club in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BadBrains Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Very good news. It certainly can't hurt to bring in more D-Men. Welcome to Montreal, Pavel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigsby Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 that's really exciting news. i was really impressed with him during the world juniors and only later found out he was drafted by the habs. he was the only russian to score against price in the final i believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 If true, this is great news. Valentenko looks like a great D prospect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Habs_101 Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Now for Emelin!! ahah i wish, i think it'll have to be next year after his contract ends! Congrats Pavel though, welcome to a great franchise! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest overlords Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 But if we can buy out his contract with his russian team, why can't we do the same with Emelin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigsby Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 But if we can buy out his contract with his russian team, why can't we do the same with Emelin? the two teams have to come to an agreement (financially). chances are emelin will cost a lot to buyout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 the two teams have to come to an agreement (financially). chances are emelin will cost a lot to buyout. I thought that the NHL forbid its teams from negotiating directly with Russian teams for the past couple of seasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest P.Royfan Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 I thought that the NHL forbid its teams from negotiating directly with Russian teams for the past couple of seasons? Well I don't think the league can stop teams from doing so they just would like them not to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigsby Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Well I don't think the league can stop teams from doing so they just would like them not to do so. an embargo because they won't sign the transfer agreement? lol. i have no idea. i just thought they were asking obscene amounts of money from the nhl teams to buy out a players contract. interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 i just thought they were asking obscene amounts of money from the nhl teams to buy out a players contract. interesting. Not at all. They're simply asking that the NHL not rob them blind by taking their best young players for free or offering only an insulting token amount of money, regardless of whether the prospect is a career fourth-liner or the next Ovechkin. I think a two-thirds buyout of the player's existing contract, similar to what we do for our own players, would be quite fair. In any case, I am excited at the prospect of seeing this kid don the CH one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigsby Posted June 6, 2007 Report Share Posted June 6, 2007 Not at all. They're simply asking that the NHL not rob them blind by taking their best young players for free or offering only an insulting token amount of money, regardless of whether the prospect is a career fourth-liner or the next Ovechkin. I think a two-thirds buyout of the player's existing contract, similar to what we do for our own players, would be quite fair. are you sure it's 2/3s or is that only within the bounds of the transfer agreement? i'm not siding with the nhl by any means. i think it's a joke what they pay the euro leagues to take their best players - i don't blame russia for not signing. honestly, i didn't realize it was 2/3s. that sounds more than fair. i thought they could ask whatever they wanted (i thought they asked way more than 2/3 of malkin's contract for him to be released but i guess i misunderstood, i thought they wanted a few mil for him) - why all the fuss then? why didn't pittsburgh just buy it out? can the team refuse the buyout? i can't imagine emelin is paid that much that we wouldn't buy out his contract at that amount to bring him here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Habsfan_11 Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 Any confirmation that Valentenko was signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MTL_RULES Posted June 7, 2007 Report Share Posted June 7, 2007 are you sure it's 2/3s or is that only within the bounds of the transfer agreement? Weep said 2/3's would be fair, not that 2/3's was in the transfer agreement. I'm not sure what the transfer agreement looks like, but Russia didn't sign it either way. So the only way to land players is them breaking their contract and leaving, or signing waiting for their contract to expire then signing one over here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xe_liam88 Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Malkins club deffinatley asked for more than 2/3's of his contract. I hear that the demands were ridiculously high from Russian clubs. I think we should stop defending the Russian clubs, the transfer agreement makes it a fair swap, with fair compensation for high end and more than fair compensation for low-end players. Russian Management is just being little babies about the whole thing. IMHO involvment in tournaments should be based on whether or not you are participating in the transfer agreement or other major documents that need to be agreed on by the IIHF and Nation teams. If Russia doesnt want to be a part of the IIHF transfer agreement they should not be allowed to ice a team for the olympics, world championships and world juniors among other tournaments. Lets see how quickley they remain out of the mix if this happens, and quite frankly aside form Malkin and Ovechkin, there are really no Russian players I would rather have on my team than a good Canadian player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.