tommyv Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 I personally garuntee this guy cracks the lineup in 2 years max, he is that darn good, all you have to do is watch one game he is in, and watch as the entire game revolves around him, and how dominating he looks out there. What I saw literally looked like this guy did not belong in the Juniors anymore, I can't believe he wasn't drafted, he was hurt majority of the season he was supposed to be drafted from what I can tell, so perhaps that played a role. He has also dramatically improved year after year, he isn't a "maybe" steal, this guy IS a steal, prepare yourself folks, we have a legitimate sniper in our system that flew under the radar. This guy has Marty St.Louis written all over him and i'm not even kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest overlords Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 I personally garuntee this guy cracks the lineup in 2 years max, he is that darn good, all you have to do is watch one game he is in, and watch as the entire game revolves around him, and how dominating he looks out there. What I saw literally looked like this guy did not belong in the Juniors anymore, I can't believe he wasn't drafted, he was hurt majority of the season he was supposed to be drafted from what I can tell, so perhaps that played a role. He has also dramatically improved year after year, he isn't a "maybe" steal, this guy IS a steal, prepare yourself folks, we have a legitimate sniper in our system that flew under the radar. This guy has Marty St.Louis written all over him and i'm not even kidding. I thought he was bigger than marty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RadioHab Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 I personally garuntee this guy cracks the lineup in 2 years max, he is that darn good, all you have to do is watch one game he is in, and watch as the entire game revolves around him, and how dominating he looks out there. What I saw literally looked like this guy did not belong in the Juniors anymore, I can't believe he wasn't drafted, he was hurt majority of the season he was supposed to be drafted from what I can tell, so perhaps that played a role. He has also dramatically improved year after year, he isn't a "maybe" steal, this guy IS a steal, prepare yourself folks, we have a legitimate sniper in our system that flew under the radar. This guy has Marty St.Louis written all over him and i'm not even kidding. As I knew absolutly squat about this guy before we signed him I am glad to see what you have to say about him as you actually saw him play. I hope he is as good as you claim, if so this is going to be interesting. It will also be interesting to see what he can do beyond the junior ranks and see if he can keep dominating against the higher caliber players. I will definatly keep my eye on him now, Thanks for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WantMoreCups Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 I cant wait to hear feed back from that divelopment camp he is going too. i hope its a steal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyv Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 I thought he was bigger than marty He is lol, I meant St.Louis never got drafted and look at him today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest - Tonio - Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 The name rung a bell but never really knew who he was, after looking at his profile, dang...hopefully this guy can flourish in our lineup sometime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 So is this an AHL contract or an NHL contract? If it is an AHL contract, does that give us exclusive bargaining rights for him, or can any team snatch him up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp73 Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 ......... honestly I have never heard of this guy When I read the title I thought it was Stephane Beauregard, he retired along time ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest overlords Posted July 8, 2007 Report Share Posted July 8, 2007 So is this an AHL contract or an NHL contract? If it is an AHL contract, does that give us exclusive bargaining rights for him, or can any team snatch him up? I heard that it was an AHL contract, but I'm sure that that still gives us exclusive bargaining rights, otherwise what would be the point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wayne Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I heard that it was an AHL contract, but I'm sure that that still gives us exclusive bargaining rights, otherwise what would be the point? well, you'd be wrong... he signed an AHL Standard Player Contract with the Hamilton Bulldogs, and NOT an NHL SPC with the Canadiens... the difference? well, his NHL rights do NOT belong to Montreal, he's a free agent... since he's an NHL free agent (never drafted, never signed an NHL contract), he can agree to terms with ANY NHL team at ANY time (but if it occurs during the non-option year of the contract, the Bulldogs would have to agree to release him from the AHL deal -- which should be a formality, I can't see an AHL team interfering with a guy's shot at the NHL)... whether he can be called up immediately after he has signed an NHL deal, I'm not 100% sure about, there may be waiver conditions in the CBA I'm not aware of... and to be perfectly clear, the Habs can NOT call Beauregard up until they own his NHL rights... the Habs get NO legal benefit with him playing in Hamilton, but they do have a practical advantage in that Beauregard would be more likely to sign with them because he would be familiar with the organization and would go back to Hamilton if sent down... so sorry people, Thomas Beauregard is NOT a Hab prospect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs_4_9_10 Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 well, you'd be wrong... he signed an AHL Standard Player Contract with the Hamilton Bulldogs, and NOT an NHL SPC with the Canadiens... the difference? well, his NHL rights do NOT belong to Montreal, he's a free agent... since he's an NHL free agent (never drafted, never signed an NHL contract), he can agree to terms with ANY NHL team at ANY time (but if it occurs during the non-option year of the contract, the Bulldogs would have to agree to release him from the AHL deal -- which should be a formality, I can't see an AHL team interfering with a guy's shot at the NHL)... whether he can be called up immediately after he has signed an NHL deal, I'm not 100% sure about, there may be waiver conditions in the CBA I'm not aware of... and to be perfectly clear, the Habs can NOT call Beauregard up until they own his NHL rights... the Habs get NO legal benefit with him playing in Hamilton, but they do have a practical advantage in that Beauregard would be more likely to sign with them because he would be familiar with the organization and would go back to Hamilton if sent down... so sorry people, Thomas Beauregard is NOT a Hab prospect... I know it's french but it says the habs signed Thomas Beauregard and not the Bulldogs... Could it be a two way contract? That's what I understood about the deal. Le Canadien a mis sous contrat pour un an plus une année d’option le meilleur buteur de la LHJMQ Thomas Beauregard, jeudi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wayne Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I know it's french but it says the habs signed Thomas Beauregard and not the Bulldogs... Could it be a two way contract? That's what I understood about the deal. Le Canadien a mis sous contrat pour un an plus une année d’option le meilleur buteur de la LHJMQ Thomas Beauregard, jeudi. since it states it's a deal for one-year plus an option year, it can't be an NHL deal since option years are specifically prohibited in the CBA... also the next paragraph states it's an AHL contract, and the item on this site about the development camp invitees list it as an AHL deal... the rds item is incorrect, obviously the writer (at least the headline writer) doesn't understand the difference between an AHL deal and a two-way NHL deal... it shouldn't even be in the Habs section, it's a Bulldogs story... Jason Jaffray of the Manitoba Moose was under an AHL contract last season and was fielding offers from more than one NHL team during the AHL playoffs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest RadioHab Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Thanks for that Wayne, I didn't know about AHL and NHL contractual differences. And here I was getting all Psyched about this guy. Well at least he has his foot in our door more than anyone elses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Interesting, so if he's so good, why did he hav eto settle for an AHL contract? I know sometimes prospects who already belong to us sign an AHL contract (Chipchura, Price, etc.) to finish off a seaosn they spent in junior with our farm club, but this is the offseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest js2 Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 Interesting, so if he's so good, why did he hav eto settle for an AHL contract? I know sometimes prospects who already belong to us sign an AHL contract (Chipchura, Price, etc.) to finish off a seaosn they spent in junior with our farm club, but this is the offseason. I think it's because hes been playing in juniors all this time and now hes playing as an over-age player in juniors. I guess there was that sense that maybe hes just gotten so used to playing against and that the leap to the mens league would be too much for him at this age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted July 9, 2007 Report Share Posted July 9, 2007 I think it's because hes been playing in juniors all this time and now hes playing as an over-age player in juniors. I guess there was that sense that maybe hes just gotten so used to playing against and that the leap to the mens league would be too much for him at this age. No but why not sign him to an NHL contract and then send him down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leafsreallysuck Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 No but why not sign him to an NHL contract and then send him down? The 50 roster spot thing maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 The 50 roster spot thing maybe? Right, but that's kind of my point. If this kid is as good as some claim, I'm sure he's worth moving a career AHLer for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevearguitar Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 when did this signing happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest overlords Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 when did this signing happen? Look at the first post.... I just think they might realize he's loyal to les canadiens. He DID have 6-7 teams after him, i remember reading that somewhere, so he didn't get "passed up". He was recognized and he WAS wanted. I think when the time comes he'll definately accept an nhl contract from the habs over anyone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest leafsreallysuck Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Right, but that's kind of my point. If this kid is as good as some claim, I'm sure he's worth moving a career AHLer for? They might just want to see how he'll do before they do that. We'll know soon enough, can't wait to see how he does in Hamilton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hab_in_Bermuda Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 Look at the first post.... I just think they might realize he's loyal to les canadiens. He DID have 6-7 teams after him, i remember reading that somewhere, so he didn't get "passed up". He was recognized and he WAS wanted. I think when the time comes he'll definately accept an nhl contract from the habs over anyone else. ya I think he wants to eventually become a hab Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted July 10, 2007 Report Share Posted July 10, 2007 They might just want to see how he'll do before they do that. We'll know soon enough, can't wait to see how he does in Hamilton. Again though, looking at the posts in this topic, you'd think that the tiny risk of adding him to your 50 player system would be worth it for a player that good. If he were so good you a.) wouldn't need to see how he does in Hamilton before signing him and b.) wouldn't want to risk losing him to another team. I don't know, it just seems to me like the guy is really being overrated if he only got an AHL contract. Unless there's some rule or loophole I don't know about, it doesn't make much sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wayne Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Again though, looking at the posts in this topic, you'd think that the tiny risk of adding him to your 50 player system would be worth it for a player that good. If he were so good you a.) wouldn't need to see how he does in Hamilton before signing him and b.) wouldn't want to risk losing him to another team. I don't know, it just seems to me like the guy is really being overrated if he only got an AHL contract. Unless there's some rule or loophole I don't know about, it doesn't make much sense. the thing that bothers me isn't just that he wasn't offered an NHL deal by anyone -- and I'm pretty sure he wasn't, you'd have to be some kind of stupid to turn down any NHL deal for an AHL offer -- it's that no one offered him an NHL deal after his second straight year of decent numbers in the Q, nor was he offered an NHL deal last year either... the scouts must see something they don't like -- not that they can't be wrong... and I think people's high opinion of him on this board and the RDS board may be biased by the fact that 1) a lot of them still believe he's signed with 'Montreal', 2) he played in the Q and 3) people are only looking at the numbers without the context (i.e. being overage and in the Q)... the thing is, the Q has a reputation for being an offense-biased, less physical league whose superstars can't always duplicate their numbers in the NHL where they face the type of physical player they rarely saw in the Q... now before people get started, I KNOW some of the greatest offensive players in the history of the NHL have come out of the Q... but what happens is some Q players get hyped by fans and media because of the big numbers they put up when they really shouldn't be -- 100 pt seasons in the Q are far more common than they are in the WHL and (I think) at least slightly more common than in the OHL... and because the Q is generally considered to be the least physical of the CHL leagues, its players also have the greatest adjustment to the physical nature of the NHL game... so the offensive stats of Q players should be taken with a grain of salt... some other things that result from the style of the Q game: you don't usually go looking for physical defensemen in the Q... it results in great goaltenders who actually have LESS of an adjustment to the level of NHL shooters... and minor football thrives in Quebec -- if you're a big, hulking kid growing up in Quebec who wants to play sports, you don't necessarily play hockey where your size may actually hurt you because you're probably slower, you play football... because of the limit on how many players NHL teams can hold the rights to, plus the limit of how many 'veterans' the AHL allows in a game line-up, all AHL teams have to sign their own players... those who sign AHL deals are either guys whose careers have plateaued or are on the decline but still want to play pro in North America, and guys who feel they've slipped through the cracks and want a chance to play themselves into being a 'prospect'... I think Thomas definitely falls into that second group... I don't know how much input an NHL GM has in these AHL signings -- they've got their own team to deal with -- nor whether any of these players are/should be currently considered 'NHL prospects' by the NHL club... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest js2 Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 Well according to canada.com, Beauregard signed an AHL contract with the Canadiens. So therefore he is property of the habs and not just the Bulldogs. http://www.canada.com/montrealgazette/news...3b-4ebefe4ffe57 ...also undrafted after scoring 71 goals for Acadie-Bathurst of the QMJHL. Beauregard, 21, signed an AHL contract with the Canadiens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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