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NYR @ Philadelphia - Tie

Los Angeles @ Pittsburgh - Tie

Detroit @ Toronto - Tie

NYI @ Minnesota - Tie

Florida @ Boston - Tie

Montreal @ Ottawa - Tie

Carolina @ New Jersey - Tie

Tampa Bay @ Atlanta - Tie

This is TIE day.

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JERRY JERRY JERRY!

We got over confident…as feared by many, and confirmed by the bunch of floaters last night. We got over confident, and now we face dropping to sixth with another loss to the re-energized Senators on Saturday, when we play them in Ottawa. A team pushing for first lost to a team barely out of last place. We could have put them out early, with Toskala looking shaky, but we got fancy. I hate to say it but the outcome of the game was deserved by both teams.

That’s the bad news. Here’s the good stuff. MN dropped two more points, and we’re still in 4th on NL standings as well as point standings. With a win on Saturday we can get within one point of the Sens once again, and instil some fear into them with two consecutive “W”s.

You can bet your mortgage that the HABS loss last night to the Leafs was as embarrassing to us, as the 8-0 loss was to the Leafs. All logic would state that we will be playing one heck of a game on Saturday. Unfortunately this is the same logic that would have had last night’s game as a no brainer win for the HABS.

Life goes on, the season goes on and we will bounce back like we always do. Only two questions remain:

1) How quickly will we bounce back? Right away or after a couple of losses?

2) When is Koivu booked for the public hanging?

Now don’t get me wrong, I’m not jumping on the “trade Koivu” band-wagon. However following his embarrassing play on the blue line last night with 30 seconds left, I’m worried what the media and fans will do to him. In case you missed it, or turned off your TV, or simply erased all memories of last night’s game, let me refresh your memory on what happened:

With a little over 30 second left, we have our goalie on the bench already with Koivu as the extra attacker with Kovalev’s line. The Leaf’s are gifted the puck once again and try to clear the zone. Markov intercepts it right outside of the blue line and patiently waits for everyone to clear the zone. Here is where the magic happens.

As everyone is expecting Markov to pass the puck to Komisarek behind him, Markov notices a huge gap along the blue line with 3 red jersey lined up and only two white ones in front of them (but at a distance). So as the smart play maker as he is, Markov makes a cross ice pass to the guy on the other side of the blue line, thus catching the three white jerseys going the opposite way on the opposite side of the ice off foot. Smart play, that should lead to an odd man rush with a good 5-6 second before more white jerseys arrive, which should lead to a a few good scoring chances.

The problem is the guy on the other side of the ice…#11. There is 21 thousand plus people in the stands watching the puck like hungry vulchers. Two benches have their eyes glued to the play with elevated heart rates, and 9 people on the ice playing at 110% trying to win/tie the game. The only one not watching is Koivu. He wasn’t looking up ice, trying to communicate with someone…nothing. As far as I could see, he had his back completely to the play and the puck, and turned around when he saw the puck hit the boards he was gliding towards.

As a Captain, as a player, as a veteran player, as the sixth player on the ice this is simply and utterly unacceptable. I’m upset, disappointed and disgusted with Koivu for that play (which incidentally leads to the 4th TO goal). However I’ll forgive him because I appreciate his contribution to the team over the decade. I’m not going to begin scrutinising him, and judging his whole career based on one play. The loss is far from his fault, and the game was not lost on that one play. But try explaining that to the blood thirsty bunch that look for reasons to hang him out there to dry. Unfortunately he’s not helping him self by being a lazy floater. He works hard more often than many others on the team, but as the Captain he has to work hard ALL the time. That is all I expect from him, and he clearly failed that last night.

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you could look at it another way Dag, koivu was set for the markov dump in which is the case 99% of the time in that situation, drive it in hard and the far winger will gather it.... i really didnt understand why that cross zone pass was made and i didnt see the leaf guys out of position like you did. but oh well its all apart of it i guess

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NYR @ Philadelphia - Rangers

Los Angeles @ Pittsburgh - Kings

Detroit @ Toronto - Wings

NYI @ Minnesota - Tie

Florida @ Boston - Tie

Montreal @ Ottawa - Habs

Carolina @ New Jersey - Devils

Tampa Bay @ Atlanta - Bolts

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SCOUTING REPORT UPDATE

Sat Feb 9, 2008

Rangers Flyers 1:00 PM ET HHN - 6455,6479

Kings Penguins 1:00 PM ET HHN - 6479

Red Wings Maple Leafs 3:00 PM ET NG29 - 6457

Islanders Wild 6:00 PM ET

Panthers Bruins 7:00 PM ET

Canadiens Senators 7:00 PM ET HTL - 6458,6470 1970 Habs - 6471,6472

Hurricanes Devils 7:00 PM ET

Lightning Thrashers 7:00 PM ET HHN - 6455

Sun Feb 10, 2008

Flyers Penguins 1:00 PM ET

Rangers Capitals 1:00 PM ET

Panthers Sabres 6:00 PM ET

Scouts needed for the following teams... any takers? Wildcard reports are very welcome :) WILDCARDS...

Thrashers

Hurricanes

Rangers

Flyers

Lightning

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Montreal @ Ottawa Saturday Night

In the last 6 games the Habs have lost after winning a game. They have not lost back to back games since December 23rd. The Ottawa Senators rec'd another boost today when Daniel Alfredson was cleared to play.

In Montreal's 4-3 win earlier on Tuesday both Heatley and Alfredson did not play.

Against Montreal this season Ottawa's "Big 3" have been Montreal Killers:

Alfredson has 2 goals, 3 assists in 3 games

Heatley has 2 goals 4 assists in 3 games and

Spezza has 2 goals 4 assists in 4 games

Ottawa will be seeking retribution for the loss they suffered earlier in the week and be looking to set the Habs back a few more points in the battle for the Division lead.

They will have all their guns loaded (and playing) this time around.

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Daily Line - TSN.CA

Los Angeles Kings vs. Pittsburgh Penguins at Mellon Arena

Oddsmakers currently have the Penguins listed as 170-moneyline favorites versus the Kings, while the game's total is sitting at 6.

The Kings scored four goals in the third period to come back and defeat the league-best Red Wings 5-3 last time out, as +270 road underdogs. The eight goals sailed OVER the posted over/under (5.5). Kyle Calder, Patrick O'Sullivan, Alexander Frolov, Brad Stuart and Anze Kopitar scored for the Kings.

Kris Letang scored the game-winning goal Thursday to lead the Penguins past the Islanders 4-3 as -165 favorites. The seven goals made it OVER the posted over/under (5.5). Ryan Whitney scored a pair of power play goals for the Penguins, and Ryan Malone added the other marker. Ty Conklin made 25 saves in the win.

Current streak: Los Angeles has won 2 straight games.

Team records: Los Angeles: 23-30-3 Pittsburgh: 30-19-5

New York Rangers vs. Philadelphia Flyers at Wachovia Center

Oddsmakers currently have the Flyers listed as 145-moneyline favorites versus the Rangers, while the game's total is sitting at 5½.

The Rangers fell 4-1 to the Ducks last time out, as -110 favorites at home. The five goals were a PUSH against the posted over/under (5). Ryan Callahan scored the lone Rangers goal.

Mike Knuble had a goal and an assist to lead the Flyers in their 4-3 loss to the Washington Capitals on Wednesday night. The Caps cashed in as +160 road underdogs as the game played over the 6-goal total set by oddsmakers.

Current streak: New York has lost 2 straight games.

Team records: New York: 27-24-6 Philadelphia: 30-18-5

Detroit Red Wings vs. Toronto Maple Leafs at Air Canada Centre

Oddsmakers currently have the Red Wings listed as 170-moneyline favorites versus the Maple Leafs, while the game's total is sitting at 5½.

The Red Wings were upset 5-3 by the Kings last time out, as -330 favorites at home. The eight goals sailed OVER the posted over/under (5.5). Henrik Zetterberg scored two goals for the Red Wings, and Tomas Kopecky added the other goal in the loss.

Vesa Toskala's 34 saves helped the Maple Leafs double the Canadiens 4-2 last time out, as +165 road underdogs. The six goals went as a PUSH against the posted over/under (6). Darcy Tucker scored twice, while Kris Newbury and Kyle Wellwood added singles for the Maple Leafs.

Team records: Detroit: 41-11-4 Toronto: 22-25-9

New York Islanders vs. Minnesota Wild at Xcel Energy Center

Oddsmakers currently have the Wild listed as 210-moneyline favorites versus the Islanders, while the game's total is sitting at 5.

The Islanders fell 4-3 to the Penguins last time out, as +145 road underdogs. The seven goals made it OVER the posted over/under (5.5). Mike Comrie scored twice for the Islanders, and Ruslan Fedotenko added the other goal on the power play.

The Wild lost their second straight with a 1-0 loss to the Stars on Thursday, as -150 favorites. The final score fell well UNDER the posted over/under (6). Niklas Backstrom stopped 26 shots in the loss.

Current streak: New York has lost 6 straight games. Minnesota has lost 2 straight games.

Team records: New York: 24-25-6 Minnesota: 30-20-4

Tampa Bay Lightning vs. Atlanta Thrashers at Philips Arena

Oddsmakers currently have the Thrashers listed as 130-moneyline favorites versus the Lightning, while the game's total is sitting at 6.

Vaclav Prospal scored the overtime winner Thursday, as the Lightning snuck past the Predators 2-1. The three goals fell UNDER the posted over/under (6). Brad Richards scored once and added an assist, and Johan Holmqvist stopped 19 shots in the win.

The Thrashers lost 2-1 to the Canucks last time out, as -120 favorites at home. The three goals were UNDER the posted over/under (5.5). Pascal Dupuis scored his 10th of the season in the loss.

Current streak: Tampa Bay has won 2 straight games. Atlanta has lost 2 straight games.

Team records: Tampa Bay: 23-27-5 Atlanta: 26-27-4

Carolina Hurricanes vs. New Jersey Devils at Prudential Center

Odds aren't yet posted for this game, so check back later for the opening line and total.

Carolina jumped out to a 2-0 lead in Friday's 2-1 win at Washington, coming in as 115 road underdogs. The three goals scored were UNDER the posted total of 6. Erik Cole scored his 12th goal of the season, and Cam Ward stopped 33 shots for the Hurricanes.

New Jersey outshot Anaheim 35-24 in Friday's 2-1 loss, falling as -145 home favorites. The three goals scored were UNDER the posted total of 5. Jay Pandolfo netted a solo marker, and Martin Brodeur stopped 22 shots for the Devils.

Current streak: New Jersey has lost 2 straight games.

Team records: Carolina: 27-26-4 New Jersey: 30-21-4

Montreal Canadiens vs. Ottawa Senators at Scotiabank Place

Odds aren't yet posted for this game, so check back later for the opening line and total.

The Canadiens were doubled 4-2 by the Maple Leafs on Thursday, as -185 favorites at home. The six goals went as a PUSH against the posted over/under (6). Tomas Plekanec scored his 20th of the season in the loss for Montreal. Carey Price stopped 24 shots in his return.

The struggling Senators snapped a three-game losing skid with a 5-4 win over the Panthers last time out, as -210 favorites at home. The nine goals sailed OVER the posted over/under (5.5). Dany Heatley scored twice in his return to the Sens lineup, while singles came from Christoph Schubert, Joe Corvo and Chris Phillips. Ray Emery made 24 saves in the win.

Team records: Montreal: 29-17-9 Ottawa: 33-18-4

Florida Panthers vs. Boston Bruins at TD Banknorth Garden

Oddsmakers currently have the Bruins listed as 130-moneyline favorites versus the Panthers, while the game's total is sitting at 5½.

The Panthers lost 5-4 to the Senators on Thursday as +180 road underdogs. The nine goals sailed OVER the posted over/under (5.5). David Booth, Olli Jokinen, Brett McLean and Nathan Horton scored in the loss.

Boston's Phil Kessel scored the shootout winner in Friday's 3-2 win at Buffalo, coming in as 150 road underdogs. The five goals scored were UNDER the posted total of 5.5. Marco Sturm tied the game with 3:50 remaining, and Alex Auld made 21 saves for the Bruins.

Team records: Florida: 25-26-5 Boston: 28-21-5

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The Latest from Atlanta - Defenceman Niclas Havelid was scratched Thursday night with flu-like symptoms. He was replaced in the top pairing by Alexei Zhitnik, who happens to be playing some of his best defense of the season. - Atlanta Journal-Constitution

The Latest from New York Rangers - RW Brendan Shanahan sat out his third straight game with assorted left leg injuries and is expected to miss the next three as well. Defenceman Marek Malik (left knee bruise) and LW Marcel Hossa (back spasms) are expected to be available to play either tomorrow afternoon at Philadelphia or Sunday afternoon at Washington. - New York Daily News

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SCOUTING REPORT UPDATE

Sat Feb 9, 2008

Rangers Flyers 1:00 PM ET HHN - 6455,6479,6482,6483,6484

Kings Penguins 1:00 PM ET HHN - 6479,6482,6483

Red Wings Maple Leafs 3:00 PM ET NG29 - 6457 HHN - 6483

Islanders Wild 6:00 PM ET HHN - 6483

Panthers Bruins 7:00 PM ET HHN - 6483

Canadiens Senators 7:00 PM ET HTL - 6458,6470 1970 Habs - 6471,6472,6481 HHN - 6483

Hurricanes Devils 7:00 PM ET HHN - 6483

Lightning Thrashers 7:00 PM ET HHN - 6455,6482,6483,6484

Sun Feb 10, 2008

Flyers Penguins 1:00 PM ET

Rangers Capitals 1:00 PM ET

Panthers Sabres 6:00 PM ET

Scouts needed for the following teams... any takers? Wildcard reports are very welcome :) WILDCARDS...

Thrashers

Hurricanes

Rangers

Flyers

Lightning

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you could look at it another way Dag, koivu was set for the markov dump in which is the case 99% of the time in that situation, drive it in hard and the far winger will gather it.... i really didnt understand why that cross zone pass was made and i didnt see the leaf guys out of position like you did. but oh well its all apart of it i guess

The fact remains however, dump or pass, Koivu had his back to the play...if he can't se him dump it, he won't be chasing it as promptly either.

It's just a matter of being alert on the ice. He should be doing it all the time. It is my opinion that he already had a talk with him self for that one, and will be playing a solid game tonight.

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THE GOING IS TOUGH, WILL WE GET GOING:

The whole locker room will be wanting to redeem their selves for Thursdays loss, but we couldn’t have been matched up against a worse opponent to do it against. The Ottawa Senators, top in the Eastern Conference, barely got dropped by our boys on Tuesday night in Montreal. Now we’re facing them in Ottawa, with a significantly stronger line-up unless Heatley went on another joy ride and too Spezza with him. I know…I know…that was dark. But that’s just the kind of mood I’m in this morning.

Huet will have to come out big, we’ll have to play a sound defensive game, special units have to perform, Kovalev’s line has to keep doing what they do best (so far we can do all of this) and one other line (Smokes or Koivu) has to chip in 2 goals. That’s the key to victory tonight.

NL STANDINGS FEBRUARY 9:

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Ryder Unsure About Future

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/trade_deadline/news_...-trade_deadline

Cristobal Huet will get the start on Saturday in Ottawa.

Roman Hamrlik remains quarantined with a virus and will miss his third straight game.

The club signed free agent forward Brock Trotter to a three-year contract. He was leading the Denver Pioneers (NCAA) in scoring. He will report to the Hamilton Bulldogs of the AHL. - TSN

Leafs Report

Game Preview -- 3:00 PM Eastern Time

http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/team/app?gameNum...mp;service=page

Injuries

Toronto

Mark Bell LW 2008-01-05 IR Cracked orbital bone, facial surgery

Darryl Boyce C 2008-01-25 IR Dislocated left shoulder

Chad Kilger LW 2008-01-30 DTD Personal reasons

Johnny Pohl C 2008-02-02 IR Sprained ankle

Alexei Ponikarovsky LW 2008-01-24 IR Dislocated right shoulder

Alexander Steen LW 2008-01-25 IR Right shoulder separation

Detroit

Niklas Kronwall D 2008-01-31 DTD Left shoulder

Top 10 NHL'ers Who May Be Available

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=229090&hubname=nhl

The Dirt Sheet

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THE GOING IS TOUGH, WILL WE GET GOING:

The whole locker room will be wanting to redeem their selves for Thursdays loss, but we couldn’t have been matched up against a worse opponent to do it against. The Ottawa Senators, top in the Eastern Conference, barely got dropped by our boys on Tuesday night in Montreal. Now we’re facing them in Ottawa, with a significantly stronger line-up unless Heatley went on another joy ride and too Spezza with him. I know…I know…that was dark. But that’s just the kind of mood I’m in this morning.

Huet will have to come out big, we’ll have to play a sound defensive game, special units have to perform, Kovalev’s line has to keep doing what they do best (so far we can do all of this) and one other line (Smokes or Koivu) has to chip in 2 goals. That’s the key to victory tonight.

The boys can do it, they have done it before. Alot of fans tend to forget that last season we beat the sens when they were rolling along as one of the top teams in the east. and we did with David Aebischer in net. David freaking Abeischer!

Last time we faced the sens for hockey day in Canada we lost 8-3, the year before (2005-2006) we beat them. Time for the rubber match as they say :D

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The boys can do it, they have done it before. Alot of fans tend to forget that last season we beat the sens when they were rolling along as one of the top teams in the east. and we did with David Aebischer in net. David freaking Abeischer!

Last time we faced the sens for hockey day in Canada we lost 8-3, the year before (2005-2006) we beat them. Time for the rubber match as they say :D

:lol: :lol:

What ever happened to that guy? Is he playing for another team? Or is he pursuing a career as a ice fisher?

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What ever happened to that guy? Is he playing for another team? Or is he pursuing a career as a ice fisher?

NHL.com says that he is with PHX

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MN Bonus available for 2008.02.09:

...1 or 2 bonuses - if NY Rangers lose to Philadelphia

MN Home-Ice Bonus

...1 or 2 bonuses - if Pittsburgh loses to Los Angeles

MN Division Bonus

...1 or 2 bonuses - if Ottawa loses to Montreal

MN Conference Bonus

It is th same thing as for Division Bobus, but Philadelphia has to lose as well for a chance for 2 bonuses.

TO-NO-GO Bonus

...1 or 2 bonuses - if Carolina gets points (vs New Jersey)

MN pace - 2.2 points per habs game

Next MN milestone: 25 - current Mn forecast: Feb. 26th

Member predictions:

#1 - Mar 1st, vs. NJ (made on Feb.6, MN 46)

Admiral - Mar 3rd, vs. SJ (Feb.6, MN 46)

Chocolate - Feb 26th, vs. Atl (Feb.8, MN 44)

Reached milestones:

MN 125 - Nov.13th, predicted by AK (Oct. 29, MN 141)

MN 99 - Dec.15th, predicted by HLD (Nov. 15, MN 123)

MN 75 - Jan.8th, predicted by HHFR (Dec. 22, MN 99)

MN 50 - Feb.2nd, predicted by mateus (Jan. 15, MN 71)

MN on Oct. 2 was - 165

MN on Oct. 31 was - 139 (drop by 26 in 11 games, pace 2.36)

MN on Nov. 30 was - 113 (drop by 26 in 14 games, pace 1.86)

MN on Dec. 31 was - 86 (drop by 27 in 14 games, pace 1.92)

MN on Jan. 31 was - 52 (drop by 34 in 12 games, pace 2.83)

Current MN - 44 (drop by 8 in 4 games in February, pace 2.00)

Note, the pace of 2 MN points per habs game is the border line between playoffs and golf pastures. If the pace is higher then 2, the habs are heading to the playoffs. If it is less than 2, we are out. If it is exactly 2, it is a tie break situation.

MN forecast by the end of February - 22 (at the beginning of February the forecast was 21, the best is 21 and the worst 24).

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MN bonus picks:

NYR @ Phi .... Phi (bonus)

LA @ Pit ....... LA (out of conference, home-ice)

Det @ Tor .... Det (out of conference, default)

NYI @ Min .... Min (out of conference)

Fla @ Bos ..... Fla (NL)

Mtl @ Ott ...... Mtl (default, conference/division)

Car @ NJ ...... Car (NL)

TB @ Atl ....... TB (NL)

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When the MN habs400 hits 0 or Montreal climbs to the spot #8 in the Habs 400/750 standing, habs are in accordingly to habs 400 rule.

Thanks to bsl for the idea.

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Preferences (IMO):

NYR @ Phi - Phillies (with our February performanse we need bonuses more, than an additional point in the battle for conference title)

LA @ Pit - Kings

Det @ Tor - Wings

NYI @ Min - Wild

Fla @ Bos - Panthers

Mtl @ Ott - go Habs go

Car @ NJ - in regulation

TB @ Atl - in regulation

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