Guest JL Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Bob Gainey Position: Executive Vice President and General Manager Born in Peterborough on December 13, 1953, Bob Gainey became the 15th General Manager in the history of the Montreal Canadiens on June 2, 2003. On January 14, 2006, he took over as interim head coach of the Canadiens before handling the coaching duties to Guy Carbonneau on May 5, 2006. Called by Russian hockey pioneer Anatoli Tarasov the world's most complete hockey player, Gainey played his entire NHL career with the Canadiens from 1973 to 1989, and was the team captain for his last eight seasons. His resume includes five Stanley Cup championships (1975 to 1979 and 1985-86) and seven Prince of Wales Conference championships. A four-time All Star team selection, Gainey also won the Frank Selke Trophy for four consecutive years, from 1978 to 1981, more than any other NHL player. He was awarded the Conn Smythe Trophy as the Playoffs Most Valuable Player in 1979. Following his playing career, Gainey began coaching the épinal hockey team, in France, before joining the Minnesota North Stars as Head Coach in 1990. That same year, he guided the North Stars to the Stanley Cup finals. He was the Stars' Head Coach and General Manager from 1992 to 1996. During that period, he managed the team's move from Minnesota to Dallas. From 1996 to 2002, as the Stars' General Manager, Gainey led his team to one Stanley Cup Championship (1999), five consecutive Division Championships (from 1996 to 2001), and two Presidents' Trophies awarded to the team with the NHL's best regular season record (1998 and 1999). At the international level, Gainey was Assistant General Manager of the 1996 Canadian Team at the World Cup of Hockey, and also acted as one of the three general managers of the Canadian Olympic team at the Nagano Olympic games in 1998. He was elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1992. Bob Gainey is a member of the NHL Competitive Rules Committee since 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miltie01 Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Bob says we will have a big roster with all the guys who don'y have to clear wavers going up or down. You are going to have to work....or be replaced !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp73 Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Bob says we will have a big roster with all the guys who don'y have to clear wavers going up or down. Cool. Now instead of Carbo benching a player for an error he can send him to the AHL and bring another guy up Should be another interesting year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miltie01 Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Cool. Now instead of Carbo benching a player for an error he can send him to the AHL and bring another guy up Should be another interesting year Cool !!!! It is about time this organization had standards and expectations !!! Compete or go home I say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HabsfanfromtheROCK Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Heres to bob so that he can get those deals done this year that we desperately need ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HabsMan11 Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 if he trades halak and halak turns out to be great....uh oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JL Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 if he trades halak and halak turns out to be great....uh oh Like any trade, a GM takes a chance and that's especially true when trading a prospect or young player and no one knows for sure how much more that player will develop. However, any good GM will trade from a position of strength. What I mean by that is that he looks at the strengths or his team, where he can afford to give away, and tries to "plug holes" on his roster. We're very deep in net but lack firepower up front, so it's a natural to think that we can "sacrifice" a goalie in order to get a goals scorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rob2h Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 That was an awesome read.Thats quite the resume for Mr. Gainey.I can say he is one of my favorite habs alltime.I remember him leading the Canadiens to the 1986 cup victory over the Flames.I honestly hope he never steps down or is never let go by the Habs because this is where he belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kronix Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 yea good luck bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted September 30, 2007 Report Share Posted September 30, 2007 Bob says we will have a big roster with all the guys who don'y have to clear wavers going up or down. You are going to have to work....or be replaced !!! Except 95% of our roster doesn't need to clear waivers. So the only players who really have to worry about getting replaced, that is if they even make the team: Gorges, O'Byrne, possibly Streit (not sure on him), possibly Kostitsyn (also not sure), Lapierre, Latendresse, Halak, and Price (and 3 of those guys will be sent down before the season starts) So on our 23 man we will have 3-5 players who that threat applies to, and most of them will be playing low minutes anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Anyways, this is a very important season for Gainey. If we could land in 4th-6th in the conference it will be proof that his plan appears to be working and this team is going in the right direction. If we get a 7th or 8th place finish, we are back to where we were when he took over, and arguments could be made for him going a good job or not so good job. If we once again fail to make the playoffs, a lot of questions are going to start to be asked about him, and excuses will get old fast. Next season (as in a year from now) is year 5 of his 5 year plan. Now if I recall the 5 year plan was to win us a cup, that seems unlikely. But if in year 4 or his own timeframe of year 5, we aren't even a playoff team, something clearly isn't working. And past achievement aside, questions will be asked and if Gainey doesn't shake things up big time, it may be him on his way out. On the other hand if this team can consistently perform well and show that they are better than the team that Gainey inherited, I'm sure we won't mind giving Gainey an extra couple of years. The last 3 years Gainey was new, dealing with Savard's team, and we expected some rough spots. But now this is 100% Gainey's team, and it will soon be 4 seasons in charge, and it is only fair to expect results and accountability. Best Luck Bob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopII Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Bob Gainey Position: Executive Vice President and General Manager Born in Peterborough on December 13, 1953, Bob Gainey became the 15th General Manager in the history of the Montreal Canadiens on June 2, 2003. On January 14, 2006, he took over as interim head coach of the Canadiens before handling the coaching duties to Guy Carbonneau on May 5, 2006. Called by Russian hockey pioneer Anatoli Tarasov the world's most complete hockey player, Gainey played his entire NHL career with the Canadiens from 1973 to 1989, and was the team captain for his last eight seasons. His resume includes five Stanley Cup championships (1975 to 1979 and 1985-86) and seven Prince of Wales Conference championships. A four-time All Star team selection, Gainey also won the Frank Selke Trophy for four consecutive years, from 1978 to 1981, more than any other NHL player. He was awarded the Conn Smythe Trophy as the Playoffs Most Valuable Player in 1979. Following his playing career, Gainey began coaching the épinal hockey team, in France, before joining the Minnesota North Stars as Head Coach in 1990. That same year, he guided the North Stars to the Stanley Cup finals. He was the Stars' Head Coach and General Manager from 1992 to 1996. During that period, he managed the team's move from Minnesota to Dallas. From 1996 to 2002, as the Stars' General Manager, Gainey led his team to one Stanley Cup Championship (1999), five consecutive Division Championships (from 1996 to 2001), and two Presidents' Trophies awarded to the team with the NHL's best regular season record (1998 and 1999). At the international level, Gainey was Assistant General Manager of the 1996 Canadian Team at the World Cup of Hockey, and also acted as one of the three general managers of the Canadian Olympic team at the Nagano Olympic games in 1998. He was elected to the Hockey Hall of Fame in 1992. Bob Gainey is a member of the NHL Competitive Rules Committee since 2005. In other words... Bob > God Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miltie01 Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Except 95% of our roster doesn't need to clear waivers. So the only players who really have to worry about getting replaced, that is if they even make the team: Gorges, O'Byrne, possibly Streit (not sure on him), possibly Kostitsyn (also not sure), Lapierre, Latendresse, Halak, and Price (and 3 of those guys will be sent down before the season starts) So on our 23 man we will have 3-5 players who that threat applies to, and most of them will be playing low minutes anyways. What you are not taking into account is the fact the others can be shuffled to the fourth line or into the press box and be replaced on the ice by a callup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest halifax_habs Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 But if in year 4 or his own timeframe of year 5, we aren't even a playoff team, something clearly isn't working. And past achievement aside, questions will be asked and if Gainey doesn't shake things up big time, it may be him on his way out. On the other hand if this team can consistently perform well and show that they are better than the team that Gainey inherited, I'm sure we won't mind giving Gainey an extra couple of years. Even if we fall flat on our face and come 13th I will be willing to give Gainey another couple of years to try and fix this ship. This franchise needs stability and leadership at all levels if we are to turn around the nightmare that Les Canadiens became in the late nineties. I'm a Gainey supporter. Has he been perfect, of course not. We do have a long term vision in place, the scouting to make it happen, and we have good player development as witnessed by the progression of our younger players like Higgins, Pleks, Kostitsyn, Latendresse and hopefully this year O'Byrne and Chipchura. The problem is that right now Gainey is trying to walk a tightrope between keeping the team competitive and building a strong youth movement. He has to fill holes with veterans and a lot of them haven't panned out. While short term that has been painful I don't see that it has set the franchise back long term. The talented kids still make the roster (four rookies last year made big contributions). People have already panned Gainey this season because apparently no rookies will make the team. Last year only Latendresse started the season with the Habs but when veterans faltered their spots got taken by younger players. Kostitsyn, Lapierre, and Halak all made their way onto the Habs late last season but it looks like all three have a roster spot again this season. I don't see how you can want anymore rookies, that's four in one year. Like I said the teams needs stability at all levels and we need the veterans around to teach these guys how to play and how to compete. It's been rocky but the overall vision is there and we have some great young players and a coach who already looks much improved from last year. I'm optimistic that BG has a long career ahead of him as GM in Montreal and I think that is excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rob2h Posted October 1, 2007 Report Share Posted October 1, 2007 Anyways, this is a very important season for Gainey. If we could land in 4th-6th in the conference it will be proof that his plan appears to be working and this team is going in the right direction. If we get a 7th or 8th place finish, we are back to where we were when he took over, and arguments could be made for him going a good job or not so good job. If we once again fail to make the playoffs, a lot of questions are going to start to be asked about him, and excuses will get old fast. Next season (as in a year from now) is year 5 of his 5 year plan. Now if I recall the 5 year plan was to win us a cup, that seems unlikely. But if in year 4 or his own timeframe of year 5, we aren't even a playoff team, something clearly isn't working. And past achievement aside, questions will be asked and if Gainey doesn't shake things up big time, it may be him on his way out. On the other hand if this team can consistently perform well and show that they are better than the team that Gainey inherited, I'm sure we won't mind giving Gainey an extra couple of years. The last 3 years Gainey was new, dealing with Savard's team, and we expected some rough spots. But now this is 100% Gainey's team, and it will soon be 4 seasons in charge, and it is only fair to expect results and accountability. Best Luck Bob! Some teams have improved.Rangers Penguins,Capitals.Some have got worse.Sabres Devils.Yeah you're right if the plan is working it should show in the standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ribz&ryder_connexion Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I can't say I'm too impressed with his decisions today, not what I expected at all. I just hope he knows what he's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest olddude Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I hope this comment dosn't reflect the type of attention BG has been paying to the Habs. “Let’s not put the cart before the horse. I say why not see what a veteran like Kovalev can do for Grabovski,” suggested Gainey. “They looked good as a unit the other night against Ottawa. http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app/?service...rticleid=338827 Kovalev, never played the other night against Ottawa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-1 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I hope this comment dosn't reflect the type of attention BG has been paying to the Habs. “Let’s not put the cart before the horse. I say why not see what a veteran like Kovalev can do for Grabovski,” suggested Gainey. “They looked good as a unit the other night against Ottawa. http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app/?service...rticleid=338827 Kovalev, never played the other night against Ottawa. He's talking about the Ottawa game on the 22nd of September... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1970 Habs Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 In other words... Bob > God This is Sacrilege!! Some teams have improved.Rangers Penguins,Capitals.Some have got worse.Sabres Devils.Yeah you're right if the plan is working it should show in the standings. On paper at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JL Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 I can't say I'm too impressed with his decisions today, not what I expected at all. I just hope he knows what he's doing. Of course he doesn't know what he's doing. He's only been involved in hockey his whole life, as a player then as a coach, now as a general manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 Of course he doesn't know what he's doing. He's only been involved in hockey his whole life, as a player then as a coach, now as a general manager... The same could have been said for Mike Milbury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jctreb2001 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 if we are 7th-8th or out this year and next,it will definately be time for a change.That being said,lets see what happens and hope for success Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey_gal89 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 The same could have been said for Mike Milbury The difference being the amount of championships as a player, a coach and a GM: Bob Gainey's Cups: As a player: 5; As a coach: 0; As a GM: 1 Mike Milbury's Cups: As a player: 0; As a coach: 0; As a GM: 0 If I'm building a winner, I'm choosing a winner as GM. Bob Gainey is a PROVEN winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 The difference being the amount of championships as a player, a coach and a GM: Bob Gainey's Cups: As a player: 5; As a coach: 0; As a GM: 1 Mike Milbury's Cups: As a player: 0; As a coach: 0; As a GM: 0 If I'm building a winner, I'm choosing a winner as GM. Bob Gainey is a PROVEN winner. It was a joke, that's why I put the winking the face. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 1970 Habs Posted October 2, 2007 Report Share Posted October 2, 2007 The next few years will tell one way or the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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