Guest Gumper-73 Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 If all that Saku has done for us so far hasn't shut these guys up, nothing will. You got that right. Maybe Mr Bertran should spend time trying to improve life in his home province instead of this gibberish grandstanding. But something tells me this fellow hasn't done anything of substance since the first time he pooped in his diaper. Culture is something to be maintained by the people who live in it. It is not the government's role to tell people how to live. If a 'culture' is real and sustainable it will surrvive on it's own merit. Calling out a guy who has been nothing but a positive role model for all associated to Les Canadiens for something so trivial is ludicrous. I watch and enjoy all 82 games on RDS and I don't speak french. Since I pay for the service maybe I should demand that the game also be simultaneously called in english (in Italian too since my Grandma came from there and I like spaghetti) so that I may not offend my culture of being an english speaking Ontarian. Or maybe I'll just continue to enjoy the games and pick up a little french along the way! Peace Out. Go Habs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs_fan1160 Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 I think this guy should be able to talk when he raises millions of dollars to help with cancer detection and help save lives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sask-Habs-Fan Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Saku handled the media very well today, too bad some meaningless politician has to disrespect our captain and stir this useless subject up again. dont know how saku puts up with this stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miltie01 Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Saku handled the media very well today, too bad some meaningless politician has to disrespect our captain and stir this useless subject up again. dont know how saku puts up with this stuff He gives it as much concern as it deserves...relatively little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smoke Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 SO lame eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jesus Price Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Maybe the focus should be on us learning Finnish! lets speak the beautiful mans language. who cares about english/french..both overrated languages imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smoke Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Maybe the focus should be on us learning Finnish! lets speak the beautiful mans language. who cares about english/french..both overrated languages imo LOL Nice one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevesaku Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 guys i just want to say saku koivu is a class act. no other way around it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest silversnake Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 absolutely loved the interview i saw on TSN today. Guy is great, class act and loved the wink to the reporter. Glad he's the captain and hopes he stays and retires a HAB and we can get him a cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JOHN Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Koivu will be remembered for years and years in Montreal, and Quebec. Bertrand, the lawyer should be forgotton in 15 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AlexOscar Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 I've watched a few games on RDS and didn't understand a word (note: I'm Finnish, being rooting for Canadiens since I got my first Commodore 64 hockey game back in mid 80s). So, what is my point? Very simple, sports and personal effort in context of creating a larger texture like a TEAM that Habs is... free of prejudice.. enjoying the enriched atmosphere that various customs and cultures bring. Respectful of tradition without becoming self serving. Welcoming different life styles - be it conservative, or liberal or whatever you will (to please the few politically inclined). You will find perfect virtue in a functioning team > kinship regardless of background, white, black, red, yellow - you name it. Hockey. Friendship. Effort. Support. Fans. Moments of joy, moments of bitter disappointment. To my actual point; In Finnish elite league we have quite a few overseas players, Canadien, American.. and then from all around Europe, Czech, Lithuania and so forth... I've NEVER heard anyone complain about for instance Paul Tenkrat (a Czech player who played many seasons in Finland) not speaking Finnish in interviews. Sure, we would love and appreciate the effort, but when you are asked a question, it's the answer and the content of the reply that counts, not the language it's spoken in and I could not care less if he had lived in Finland for a hundred years and never spoke a word of Finnish. He is still our man, if you get my drift. If I wanted to be really blunt... what if Saku was mute ? Should he sign in French? Or should he sign in English? Perhaps Finnish? Oops, I forgot. It must be universal. But then again, by the looks of it some "important" people have long forgotten it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevesaku Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 I've watched a few games on RDS and didn't understand a word (note: I'm Finnish, being rooting for Canadiens since I got my first Commodore 64 hockey game back in mid 80s). So, what is my point? Very simple, sports and personal effort in context of creating a larger texture like a TEAM that Habs is... free of prejudice.. enjoying the enriched atmosphere that various customs and cultures bring. Respectful of tradition without becoming self serving. Welcoming different life styles - be it conservative, or liberal or whatever you will (to please the few politically inclined). You will find perfect virtue in a functioning team > kinship regardless of background, white, black, red, yellow - you name it. Hockey. Friendship. Effort. Support. Fans. Moments of joy, moments of bitter disappointment. To my actual point; In Finnish elite league we have quite a few overseas players, Canadien, American.. and then from all around Europe, Czech, Lithuania and so forth... I've NEVER heard anyone complain about for instance Paul Tenkrat (a Czech player who played many seasons in Finland) not speaking Finnish in interviews. Sure, we would love and appreciate the effort, but when you are asked a question, it's the answer and the content of the reply that counts, not the language it's spoken in and I could not care less if he had lived in Finland for a hundred years and never spoke a word of Finnish. He is still our man, if you get my drift. If I wanted to be really blunt... what if Saku was mute ? Should he sign in French? Or should he sign in English? Perhaps Finnish? Oops, I forgot. It must be universal. But then again, by the looks of it some "important" people have long forgotten it. what a great freakin post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevesaku Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 i feel bad for bertrand, the guy who wants a team quebec at the world championships in 2008, the thing is, when lecavalier and brodeur were asked if they would choose quebec over canada they responded, NO. they would choose canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hermesfani Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Here's an article about Koivu on a website of Finnish tabloid: http://www.iltalehti.fi/jaakiekko/200711016791560_jk.shtml And here goes my translation: IN THE MIDDLE OF STORM Saku Koivu not scared of statements hurting civil rights. Saku Koivu is now in the middle of everlasting language political fight of Quebec province. The lawyer Guy Bertrand, supporting Quebec's independence, stated in the CBC channel interview Koivu hurting civil rights. Canada is a bilingual country and according to law people have rights to get their services also in French. Koivu doesn't speak French a lot in publicity, but e.g. during hospital visits (charity related ones) he may speak some French. -If politicians say something, I can't affect a lot on what they say. I'm not perfect and it would be better also to me personally if I spoke French fluently. It's a little bit different to speak a language to children compared with talking to media. -In my opinion I have done lots of good things here. It's my way to show my gratitude to people, he said to Iltalehti. Children are going to kindergarten where French is the spoken language Koivu has donated more than 3 000 000 dollars (about 2 000 000 euro) to the charity targets of Quebec through his foundation (www.sakukoivufoundation.com) The lawyer Bertrand, who attacked against Koivu, said something confusing in TV. He stated Koivu is married to a woman whose native language is French. In fact he's married to Hanna Norio who speaks the dialect of Turku (Saku's and her home town). Koivu made the atmosphere more relaxed in the press conference. -Well I do speak some French to my wife in some special situations. I'm sure you know what kind of situations I mean, he was joking. The children of Koivu are going to a kindergarten where French is the spoken language. Koivu says in Finland the same kind of controversy like this would not be possible. -Also Finland is a bilingual country, but in my country people don't care what languages players speak. Winning is the main thing. Canadiens commented the situation shortly to Iltalehti. - We are not going to take part in the political discussion. We will leave that to politicians, said Donald Beauchamb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ComeBackStanley Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 I've watched a few games on RDS and didn't understand a word (note: I'm Finnish, being rooting for Canadiens since I got my first Commodore 64 hockey game back in mid 80s). So, what is my point? Very simple, sports and personal effort in context of creating a larger texture like a TEAM that Habs is... free of prejudice.. enjoying the enriched atmosphere that various customs and cultures bring. Respectful of tradition without becoming self serving. Welcoming different life styles - be it conservative, or liberal or whatever you will (to please the few politically inclined). You will find perfect virtue in a functioning team > kinship regardless of background, white, black, red, yellow - you name it. Hockey. Friendship. Effort. Support. Fans. Moments of joy, moments of bitter disappointment. To my actual point; In Finnish elite league we have quite a few overseas players, Canadien, American.. and then from all around Europe, Czech, Lithuania and so forth... I've NEVER heard anyone complain about for instance Paul Tenkrat (a Czech player who played many seasons in Finland) not speaking Finnish in interviews. Sure, we would love and appreciate the effort, but when you are asked a question, it's the answer and the content of the reply that counts, not the language it's spoken in and I could not care less if he had lived in Finland for a hundred years and never spoke a word of Finnish. He is still our man, if you get my drift. If I wanted to be really blunt... what if Saku was mute ? Should he sign in French? Or should he sign in English? Perhaps Finnish? Oops, I forgot. It must be universal. But then again, by the looks of it some "important" people have long forgotten it. translate this and send it to bertramd...or a french news paper but they probably won't publish it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miltie01 Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 The amazing heights of stupidity we can reach when we allow a person with an agenda to have a public soap box to speak from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jesus Price Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 i feel bad for bertrand, the guy who wants a team quebec at the world championships in 2008, the thing is, when lecavalier and brodeur were asked if they would choose quebec over canada they responded, NO. they would choose canada. Why do you feel bad for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest keithman Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Bertrand is a moron. Koivu is the king. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dt9999 Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Why do you feel bad for him? Because he's obviously not working on full mental capacity... and if that is in fact a demosntration of his full mental capacity, ten we should all feel even worse for him... who know? maybe Saku Koivu can build another hospital wing for mentally challenged fools like Guy Bertrand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smoke Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 Saku is a true leader, he has dealt with our crazy press or x # of years now, and he continues to choose to stay here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gumper Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 I am actually in awe that the player who has done more for us in the past decade than anyone, the player who continues to lead our team in points every single year, the player who is soon to become the longest serving captain in Canadiens HISTORY, is still getting dumped on by the press. This guy has done absolutely nothing wrong this year as far as things go, and then all of a sudden this comment about him not spaking fluent french gets thrown out there. I may be wrong but I think Saku was hurt a lot by this un-needed comment! Not only has he come from a completely different country and learned to speak English better than most European players, but now we accept him to speak french as if he was born in a baguette? And it's not even like he's having a bad season, as if leading the team in points is nothing. The fans really need to step it down a notch, if they like the team so much, they will and stop hurting their team's chances of doing anything within the following seasons. I don't like some players on this team, but when someone makes a blatant attack at our captain, that is just un-called for and inappropriate, I will stick up for him until the cows come home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs_fan1160 Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 I think the fans at the Bell Centre should pull together tonight and give Koivu a big standing ovation when he steps on the ice. He deserves it and it'll help let him know that no one but what's his name thinks it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 I think the fans at the Bell Centre should pull together tonight and give Koivu a big standing ovation when he steps on the ice. He deserves it and it'll help let him know that no one but what's his name thinks it. i was coming in this thread to post exactly that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habs_fan1160 Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 i was coming in this thread to post exactly that Lol, I posted it in the gameday thread too, hopefully some folk going to the game tonight and pull something together for him. That would be awesome. If I was there I'd be cheering my head off, too bad I'm 6000 miles away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest silversnake Posted November 1, 2007 Report Share Posted November 1, 2007 I think the fans at the Bell Centre should pull together tonight and give Koivu a big standing ovation when he steps on the ice. He deserves it and it'll help let him know that no one but what's his name thinks it. good point. I know i'll be screaming at my tv and i live close to the bell center. Maybe they will hear me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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