Guest Brando Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Have we ever seen a Kostitsyn - Plekanec - Kovalev line combo? Yes - earlier in the season - initially carbo tried Kosti - Grabs - Kovy, which I thought was going to click really well. Then Carbo moved Grabs down to move Plekanec up to 2nd line C. I think the line was still trying to find itself, when Carbo moved Lats up and Kosti down. But I think the K.P.K line makes the most sense. Lats looks lost out there. If he would play the Power Forward role and charge the net - it could work really well as Kovy and Pleks would generate a lot of first chances, he could either tip or get the rebounds. For whatever reason, Lats still seems to think he can handle the puck, and he can't receive passes worth a darn. (I know he's young. But he is taking up a second line roster spot). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SIXX Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Have we ever seen a Kostitsyn - Plekanec - Kovalev line combo? I believe we saw that line combo for a game. Kostitsyn will be back and have a huge fire lit under his butt. Personally, I don't he has played that bad so far. In every game he had new dance partners and for a young guy it's going to take a game or 2 for the chemistry to develop. I think once BG finds a taker for Dandy we'll see the following line - Grabs - Smoke - Kosty as our 3rd line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JL Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Have we ever seen a Kostitsyn - Plekanec - Kovalev line combo? Yes, against Pittsburgh and Carolina. http://www.cs.unb.ca/~mwf/habs/icetime03.html http://www.cs.unb.ca/~mwf/habs/icetime04.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bobineau Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Something that might not be helping Kostitsyn is that he's playing left wing while he's a right winger. Many european players are more comfortable on their off-wing, a good example is Kovalev, he's totally inept when he plays on the left wing. When Kostitsyn came up last year, he played the right wing and produced offensively, so maybe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jennifer_rocket Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Yes - earlier in the season - initially carbo tried Kosti - Grabs - Kovy, which I thought was going to click really well. Then Carbo moved Grabs down to move Plekanec up to 2nd line C. I think the line was still trying to find itself, when Carbo moved Lats up and Kosti down. But I think the K.P.K line makes the most sense. Lats looks lost out there. If he would play the Power Forward role and charge the net - it could work really well as Kovy and Pleks would generate a lot of first chances, he could either tip or get the rebounds. For whatever reason, Lats still seems to think he can handle the puck, and he can't receive passes worth a darn. (I know he's young. But he is taking up a second line roster spot). I believe we saw that line combo for a game. Kostitsyn will be back and have a huge fire lit under his butt. Personally, I don't he has played that bad so far. In every game he had new dance partners and for a young guy it's going to take a game or 2 for the chemistry to develop. I think once BG finds a taker for Dandy we'll see the following line - Grabs - Smoke - Kosty as our 3rd line Yes, against Pittsburgh and Carolina. http://www.cs.unb.ca/~mwf/habs/icetime03.html http://www.cs.unb.ca/~mwf/habs/icetime04.html Thanks for the response, everyone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rosalie52 Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 It's the "must put someone down to raise my favorite" syndrome. It's too often widely spread around the forum. Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miltie01 Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Growing pains can be tough on a player, but sometimes I think it is tougher on the fans !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Maniaque Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Considering how well the last game went, I'm not in any hurry to see Kostitsyn back in the lineup. Not saying he couldnt have done well, but there's the saying "if it aint broken, dont fix it". Things work well at the moment. When one of the forwards is injured or needs rest, or hasnt been working hard enough, then Andrei can make a comeback - hopefully in force. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest St. B. Voyageur Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 Something that might not be helping Kostitsyn is that he's playing left wing while he's a right winger. Many european players are more comfortable on their off-wing, a good example is Kovalev, he's totally inept when he plays on the left wing. When Kostitsyn came up last year, he played the right wing and produced offensively, so maybe... Very astute observation, although I wouldn't say Kostitstyn is inept on left wing. He has had a lot of shots early in the season, playing with Kovalev benefitted him in this regard. He definitely is more comfortable on right wing, and if Dandenault is injured, given the natural chemistry he has with Grabvoski, I think he would fit well with Smolinski centering them. That said, I'm not enthralled about him replacing one of our most effective penalty killers, and physical forwards in Dandenault against a tough Canes team. Kostistyn's spot should be on the second line given his talent, but he must prove he merits to be on it. And much like last year's battle for the final roster spot, I think it comes down to he and Latendresse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JL Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Something that might not be helping Kostitsyn is that he's playing left wing while he's a right winger. Many european players are more comfortable on their off-wing, a good example is Kovalev, he's totally inept when he plays on the left wing. When Kostitsyn came up last year, he played the right wing and produced offensively, so maybe... And that is why I've been coming up with trade proposals involving either Ryder or Kovalev, as Kostitsyn in better on the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest smoke Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 You know what hurts him, is for the game he's benched we light the score board up 6-1 Doesnt look like he will be back in the game on friday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Miltie01 Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 You know what hurts him, is for the game he's benched we light the score board up 6-1 Doesnt look like he will be back in the game on friday If Carbo decides it is time to get him in the line up, he will be in. I wouldn't let the 6 goals worry you. This team will not score 6 on a regular basis. The kid has sat and done his time, if he is ready Carbo will find a way to get him in, regardless of a win . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Let's get him back in the lineup now. Hopefully if we can make the playoffs, if we want to do some damage we need all the offensive punch we can get, we need Kostitsyn to break out, and it's tough to do that from the press box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bigsby Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Let's get him back in the lineup now. YES! my guess is that he'll play at least one of the two games this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Get this man back in the lineup ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gumper-73 Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 It's a shame Andrei hasn't found his groove yet. He seems far less assertive then at the end of last year. Last season ended too soon for him that's for sure. Maybe sitting for a couple will help focus him. Finding the proper linemates seems to be a bit of a problem. I think he would fit great with Koivu and Higgins but Ryder has obviously cemented that spot. Too much talent to waste. Let's hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB-15 Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Get this man back in the lineup ASAP. What is with the hype around this kid? I've asked this before and I'll ask it again. What makes him so exciting? There is not a single player on the roster right now that I would replace with kostitsyn. not one. keep him benched. people complain about carbo switching up his lines; then they call for immediate insertion of a guy who has been nothing more than a total disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franck5890 Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Something that might not be helping Kostitsyn is that he's playing left wing while he's a right winger. Many european players are more comfortable on their off-wing, a good example is Kovalev, he's totally inept when he plays on the left wing. When Kostitsyn came up last year, he played the right wing and produced offensively, so maybe... You could be right. If I recall correctly, he also scored his first (and only?) goal this season to the right of the goaltender (from a blue-line view). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 What is with the hype around this kid? I've asked this before and I'll ask it again. What makes him so exciting? There is not a single player on the roster right now that I would replace with kostitsyn. not one. keep him benched. people complain about carbo switching up his lines; then they call for immediate insertion of a guy who has been nothing more than a total disappointment. I am not hyping anyone. I believe Kostitsyn has the potential to be at least a 30-goal scorer on this team if he isn't jerked around and yanked in and out of the lineup for no reason. He has worked hard this season and looked dangerous when he was on the ice despite constant lineup changes on the second line and even one demotion to the third line. We have to be patient with our kids. It irks me somewhat when people judge young players in their first full NHL season only by point production. The points will come if you develop him properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CanadianMike Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 so Habs win 2 in a row (including a 6-1 whipping on the Bruins) and some of you are screaming to get him back in the lineup? he should wait his turn like anyone else would. Yes he has potential, but let's be real here folks. We did FINE without him and without an injury I think he should wait. (even Tom K stepped it up and doesn't seem like he will be giving up his spot anytime soon). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jesus Price Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 so Habs win 2 in a row (including a 6-1 whipping on the Bruins) and some of you are screaming to get him back in the lineup? he should wait his turn like anyone else would. Yes he has potential, but let's be real here folks. We did FINE without him and without an injury I think he should wait. (even Tom K stepped it up and doesn't seem like he will be giving up his spot anytime soon). We are a team that so badly lacks goal scorers.. when we have an amazing potential in a guy like Kosti, its hard to just keep him out and let him "wait his turn".. I think that he has waited long enough, and we need to give him a chance to produce.. Guys like Dandy, Kostopo, Begin (who I love), are all strong defensive players but is there a need for all 3 of them in the lineup at once? I am starting to fear Kosti will end up being the Next Perezhogin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rosalie52 Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Considering how well the last game went, I'm not in any hurry to see Kostitsyn back in the lineup. Not saying he couldnt have done well, but there's the saying "if it aint broken, dont fix it". Things work well at the moment. When one of the forwards is injured or needs rest, or hasnt been working hard enough, then Andrei can make a comeback - hopefully in force. Yep, I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 There is really no correlation between Kostitsyn being out of the lineup and us winning. If you can prove such a correlation exists, I'd love to hear your reasoning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brando Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 so Habs win 2 in a row (including a 6-1 whipping on the Bruins) and some of you are screaming to get him back in the lineup? he should wait his turn like anyone else would. Yes he has potential, but let's be real here folks. We did FINE without him and without an injury I think he should wait. (even Tom K stepped it up and doesn't seem like he will be giving up his spot anytime soon). I think Carbo is looking at making a choice between Kostitsyn or Grabovski. (He moved Lats to line 2, and move Grabs to the wing). In my opinion, the choice should really be between Kostitsyn and Latendresse. Which of the two has more potential to benefit the 2nd line with Pleks and Kovy. In my opinion, it is hands down Kostitsyn. Lats should be the one sitting. Whether or not Kostitsyn plays or not should not affect whether or not Kostopoulus or Begin plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jesus Price Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 I think Carbo is looking at making a choice between Kostitsyn or Grabovski. (He moved Lats to line 2, and move Grabs to the wing). In my opinion, the choice should really be between Kostitsyn and Latendresse. Which of the two has more potential to benefit the 2nd line with Pleks and Kovy. In my opinion, it is hands down Kostitsyn. Lats should be the one sitting. Whether or not Kostitsyn plays or not should not affect whether or not Kostopoulus or Begin plays. Latendresse, Kostitysn, Grabovski, are all still young players in the NHL and still have aton of potential.. Guys like Begin, Dandy, Kostopo aren't exactaly getting any better. I would much rather sit one of them then to ruin the development of a potential star. Begin- Heart and soul guy, wears his heart on his sleeve. Plays with a fire under him, and is a strong shot blocker and penalty killer. Appears to be a well liked guy in the room. Kostopo- To sit Kostopo, Guy would have to get the OK from BG. He couldn't just sit his GM's UFA signing, so he seems like an un-realistic guy to sit. Dandy- I like Dandy, and his experience is hard to replace. However, I feel he is the odd man out. We must play Kosti, or else we are potentially wasting his talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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