Guest Cenner Hice Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 A thread in which we can discuss this season's special teams. The last two seasons finished with the Habs near or at the top on the PP. 2006/07: Power Play - 1st Penatly Kill - 13th 2005/06: Power Play - 5th Penalty Kill - 21st After the first game of the season, we're 2nd on the PP (behind Dallas who scored on 2 out of 3 opportunities in their first game) and 4th on the PK. Will this last? (Ok, there have only been 6 games featuring 9 teams to date). One challenge I set is to mention special teams without using the word Souray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Handlanger Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 A thread in which we can discuss this season's special teams. The last two seasons finished with the Habs near or at the top on the PP. 2006/07: Power Play - 1st Penatly Kill - 13th 2005/06: Power Play - 5th Penalty Kill - 21st After the first game of the season, we're 2nd on the PP (behind Dallas who scored on 2 out of 3 opportunities in their first game) and 4th on the PK. Will this last? (Ok, there have only been 6 games featuring 9 teams to date). One challenge I set is to mention special teams without using the word Souray. I like it so far. My boy Streit was everywhere at PP :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest arsen Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I like it so far. My boy Streit was everywhere at PP :-) if streit still fire that kind of slapshot,i don't think will miss souray that much!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopII Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 Let's just hope we don't live or die by our special teams like we did last year. Carbs was right to emphasize even strengthed goals and less penalties... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 PP: looked great once we gained the zone but really struggled to get into the zone all night long. One thing I noticed when Kovalev is the puck-carrier: he can gain entry and set up effortlessly, but his teammates have got to start positioning themselves better when he has the puck. There was at least one occasion when Kovy carried the puck all the way in to the half-wall and chipped the puck to where he expected another winger to be, only to find that winger trailing him on the play! The result was that Carolina got the puck instead and cleared the zone. We have to be smarter in our entry. PK: Did a great job but they have to bury those chances to clear the zone with powerful banked shots off the boards or well-timed shots up the ice. They also need to be quicker to the puck and play the point men more aggressively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Captain Koivu#11 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 I like it so far. My boy Streit was everywhere at PP :-) Yes, he played very well against the Canes. He has a great point shot too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Captain Koivu#11 Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 if streit still fire that kind of slapshot,i don't think will miss souray that much!! I guess the challenge of not mentioning the word Souray in this thread stops at the third post lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames4eva Posted October 4, 2007 Report Share Posted October 4, 2007 IMO special teams will still play a big part in a team's success this season. I don't mind the Habs PP/PK being tops in the league... though I would prefer the quantity of PP's to far exceed the PK's... it would mean the Habs would be the team forcing the play and drawing penalties rather than the other way around. I also think it would be more beneficial to leave forward lines together for the PP (chemistry should be better... no?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mustangpoirier4 Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 striet = sheldon souray replacement... watch him beat his record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest habFAN Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Our PP was great on wednesday but i really think they should go with Higgins Pleks and Ryder as a PP unit. That worked great in preseason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Handlanger Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 striet = sheldon souray replacement... watch him beat his record I would love that. :-) But beating Shelly's record is pretty hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HabsfanfromtheROCK Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Our PP was great on wednesday but i really think they should go with Higgins Pleks and Ryder as a PP unit. That worked great in preseason. And what would be our other one? Kovalev-Koivu- ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 You can't change the first-unit PP after they went 3/7. I think they'll only get better as the year goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 When its working for the team, dont change it, untill/only when its needed. I want to see our first unit kept together as it is, and how they will do further one. Like Weeping said, I think they will be better down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KovalevMTL Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 I would love that. :-) But beating Shelly's record is pretty hard. 25 to go.....81 games to do it. Seems in Streits favor. Good luck Streit you can pull this off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoopII Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 Is it me or did I see Kostopoulos ALOT on the PP against the Leafs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Kronix Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 no clue why kostopoulos is on the power play that is total nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JIMVINNY Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 no clue why kostopoulos is on the power play that is total nonsense It was only at the very end of a couple of the powerplays, when toronto was preparing to send out its top line. It was just carbo being a little proactive, and having his defensive line ready to go before their top line hit the ice. It wasn't anything of consequence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommyv Posted October 9, 2007 Report Share Posted October 9, 2007 As far as special teams go, based on what I saw in TO, Kovalev should be the guy blasting from the point with Markov, Hamrlik and Streit can man up the second unit. Unit 1: Ryder - Koivu - Kostitsyn Markov - Kovalev Unit 2: Latendresse - Plekanec - Higgins Hamrlik - Streit I'd like to see that for a few games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cenner Hice Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 Ok so far. In 4th on the PP and 15th on the PK. I haven't seen any games yet (but that's the disadvantage of living in the UK). So I can only go on stats and game reviews. Still, my general feeling is that, again, we'll be there or thereabouts. The advantage of Carbo et al. Saku on 2 PPG and Markov on 1 SHG: Anyone want to argue about the merits of our captain? Bring it on. When will #21 score his first SHG (his speciality at the start of last season - admittedly he then fell off. But still...)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franck5890 Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 striet = sheldon souray replacement... watch him beat his record That might be a bit of a stretch, but the use of Streit certainly helps to cope with the loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franck5890 Posted October 11, 2007 Report Share Posted October 11, 2007 As far as special teams go, based on what I saw in TO, Kovalev should be the guy blasting from the point with Markov, Hamrlik and Streit can man up the second unit. Unit 1: Ryder - Koivu - Kostitsyn Markov - Kovalev Unit 2: Latendresse - Plekanec - Higgins Hamrlik - Streit I'd like to see that for a few games Quite frankly I think Streit needs to be kept on the first unit right now (and see bonus time with the second). Latendresse hasn't really earned his spot on the PP yet (as that seems to be a common philosophy of the coaching staff). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest St. B. Voyageur Posted October 23, 2007 Report Share Posted October 23, 2007 I just wanted to ask, given that I have only watched 2 of the first 8 games (the others I listened to on the radio), why is our PK so bad early on? We have the best coach for the PK in my opinion, some solid D men (in our big 3 at least), and some forwards such as Smolinski, Dandenault, Begin, and Chipchura who seem aptly suited to killing penalties. For those of you who have watched more games than I, I would appreciate your feedback, since nothing I have seen so far stands out as to why we are rather ineffective shorthanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JL Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 I just wanted to ask, given that I have only watched 2 of the first 8 games (the others I listened to on the radio), why is our PK so bad early on? We have the best coach for the PK in my opinion, some solid D men (in our big 3 at least), and some forwards such as Smolinski, Dandenault, Begin, and Chipchura who seem aptly suited to killing penalties. For those of you who have watched more games than I, I would appreciate your feedback, since nothing I have seen so far stands out as to why we are rather ineffective shorthanded. From what I've noticed, we seem quite vulnerable when the opposition uses the umbrella PP setup, with one man at the point and two at the top of the face-off circles... We don't seem to know who to cover, with the exception of when Chara was on the ice where we had one guy dedicated to him. In order to defend against that successfully, you need 4 very mobile players on the ice who can cover a lot of ground, sort of like when you have a two men disadvantage. So that excludes Komi right off the bat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted October 24, 2007 Report Share Posted October 24, 2007 Great post, JL. I wonder if Carbo would consider changing up the PK units? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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