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He's a defenseman though. And he's small and easy to knock off puck.Like with goal #2.he played good offensively,not so good on defense. I want him on the team next year,as a #6 and a pp specialist,but not with Gorges.That's two puny defenseman.One is ok as a # 6

He definitely needs to work on his defensive game which is why I said I think he is up a bit early - it might not hurt to start him in Hamilton next year and give him one or two specific goals to work on then bring him up - but I also think he would do well in Montreal in the role you suggest but with a strong steady defensive defence partner.

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He definitely needs to work on his defensive game which is why I said I think he is up a bit early - it might not hurt to start him in Hamilton next year and give him one or two specific goals to work on then bring him up - but I also think he would do well in Montreal in the role you suggest but with a strong steady defensive defence partner.

Hammer would be a good fit,but he may be washed up.He was awful the 2nd half.Either age catching up or the gangster affair. Regardless that sounds like a great plan for Weber..so that means it probably won't happen.

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Also agree with him pairing up with the Hammer!

You'd think Schneider would be a good aprtner for him but two games ago when they were together, Schneider wasn't really a big help to Yannick was he?

Glad to see this guy get his very first playoff goal btw!!!! Congrats Yannick! :)

He's got great offensive abilities, but needs to work on his passing puck movement out of the zone.

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Weber and Stewart just got assigned to the AHL affiliate they will play in game five
the AHL release...

Bulldogs receive Stewart, Weber back from Canadiens

04/23/2009 6:23 PM

Montreal Canadiens General Manager Bob Gainey announced today that forward Greg Stewart and defenseman Yannick Weber have been reassigned from Montreal to the Hamilton Bulldogs of the AHL.

Stewart, 22, played in 51 games with the Bulldogs this season recording a team-high 170 penalty minutes and posting 17 points (seven goals, 10 assists). The 6-foot-2, 200-pound left wing played in 20 regular season games with Montreal earning one assist and serving 32 penalty minutes.

The native of Kitchener, Ontario also competed in two post-season games with the Canadiens. Stewart was drafted by Montreal in the 8th round, 246th overall of the 2004 NHL Entry Draft.

Weber, 20, played in three regular season games with Montreal recording one assist and two penalty minutes. In three post-season games with the Canadiens, Weber scored a goal and added an assist.

The 5-foot-10, 195-pound defenseman led all Bulldogs defensemen in points during the regular season with 44 (16 goals, 28 assists) while earning 42 penalty minutes in 68 games with Hamilton this season. The native of Morges, Switzerland was named to the starting line-up for PlanetUSA at the 2009 AHL All-Star Classic and was voted to the 2008-2009 AHL All-Rookie Team.

Last season, he reached the Memorial Cup final with the Kitchener Rangers of the Ontario Hockey League and also represented his native Switzerland at the 2008 World Junior Championships. Weber was drafted in the 3rd round, 73rd overall by Montreal in the 2007 NHL Entry Draft.

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I guess SK gets to go to Switzerland for the WC...

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If he makes the team, it will be as a power-play specialist.

I don't want him anywhere near this team, I hate powerplay specialists. They're useless asides for 3-4 minutes per game. This is one time I like Gainey filling a kids hole with a veteran (Spacek). Let Weber work on his defensive game and learn to be a pro defenseman.

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I don't want him anywhere near this team, I hate powerplay specialists. They're useless asides for 3-4 minutes per game. This is one time I like Gainey filling a kids hole with a veteran (Spacek). Let Weber work on his defensive game and learn to be a pro defenseman.

Well, let me qualify. I don't think he'll be useless outside of power play, just not top-four material. I'm not a super-big fan of PP specialists either, but if you're going to have one, it should be a decent third-pairing d-man who can man that right point on the PP.

That being said, I would really like O'Byrne to grab that vacant roster spot instead of Weber. I'd rather have a solid defensive defenseman who can play bigger minutes in more situations than a player who's only useful when we have the man advantage.

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I don't want him anywhere near this team, I hate powerplay specialists. They're useless asides for 3-4 minutes per game. This is one time I like Gainey filling a kids hole with a veteran (Spacek). Let Weber work on his defensive game and learn to be a pro defenseman.

He looked decent against Boston.

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I don't want him anywhere near this team, I hate powerplay specialists. They're useless asides for 3-4 minutes per game. This is one time I like Gainey filling a kids hole with a veteran (Spacek). Let Weber work on his defensive game and learn to be a pro defenseman.

I get the sense you really dislike such tactics in general, and you see them as a bastardization of the sport.

You also said you hated rebuilding.

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He looked decent against Boston.

I only watched about a game and a half of the series so I can't verify, but even if he was decent thats only 4 games. And from everything I've heard from SR's and Dogs fans, he needs work.

I get the sense you really dislike such tactics in general, and you see them as a bastardization of the sport.

You also said you hated rebuilding.

Bastardization? How is that word not censored? :lol:

I do not hate youth movements, I in fact employ them. My motto has always been draft and devleop, draft and develop and the other pieces will fall into place if you play your cards right.

When Gill was signed I said he will barely be better if at all better tha Obyrne. I just don't think Weber is NHL-ready, thus the approval of the Spacek move.

I hate rebuilding bc IMO it is inefficient. The purpose of sports is to win, by rebuilding you are purposely losing. You should never be in a situation to rebuild, if a team has to go with a youth movement because of fiscal reasons or bc its a small if anythign dropoff, then I approve. I hate the blow-up though, its giving up.

If you run a team properly, you should never be in a situation to rebuild.... ever.

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I have to question this whole concept of labelling someone a "PP Specialist".

IMO, it's just another way to describe an offensive defenceman. Oui?

I mean, does that automatically make a stay-at-home defenceman a "PK Specialist"?

I've got a philosophy about defenseman that I'd like to share.

It ain't rocket science, that's for sure. In fact, it's almost oversimplification, but here goes....

Theory No.1:

There are three different types/groups of defenceman in the NHL:

1) The Defensive Defenceman: He is your big, ugly, preferably Canadian rearguard who stays at home and punishes opposing forwards. He is the most defensively aware of the 3 defensive groups, and will often be amongst your team's leaders in +/- despite limited offensive output. Weaknesses include limited point production and often high PIM totals due to style of play.

POINT RANGE: 0-20 PTS./YR.

2) The Offensive Defenceman: He is your point producer on the back end. Highly skilled and fast, but often smaller than the other blueliners, he mans the point on the first PP unit and sees increased ice-time if more offense is required. His weaknesses include decreased defensive awareness and limited ability to control top-tier opposing forwards in the defensive zone.

POINT RANGE: 41+/YR.

3) The Hybrid Defenceman: No, he does not run on fuel cells. He is your "in-between" guy.

He has more offensive upside than the Defensive Defenceman but less than the Offensive one, and conversely, he has more defensive ability than the Offensive Defenceman but less than the Defensive Defenceman. His weaknesses: He is the jack of all trades, but master of none.

POINT RANGE: 20-40 PTS./YR.

Theory No.2:

In order to have a strong, well balanced blueline, you must have two from each group within your starting six defenceman. Too many Offensive Defenceman and you can't hold a lead. Too many Defensive Defenceman and you can't get one. Too many Hybrids and you don't have enough "Specialists".

With these 2 theories in mind, let's look at the current Canadiens roster and depth chart:

*Note: Numbers in parenthesis indicate (points/games played) last season.

1)Defensive Defenceman: O'Byrne(5/37), Gill(10/62)

Depth: Belle

Summary: Loss of Komisarek, Bouillon, Valentenko and inabilty to sign Emelin depleted depth.

2)Offensive Defenceman: Markov (64/78), Spacek (45/80)

Depth: Weber, Carle, Subban

Summary: Good present. Potentially great future.

3)Hybrid Defenceman: Hamrlik(33/81),Mara(21/76),Gorges(23/81)

Depth: Fischer

Summary: Loss of McDonagh, Dandeneault greatly weakened this category, and both Gorges

and Mara are barely hanging on to Hybrid status.

Conclusion: Montreal appears to have a well-rounded defensive core, although they appear to be in need of more depth at the Defensive Defenceman and Hybrid positions.

Perhaps lesser known prospects like Torp, Pateryn, Stejskal, etc...will fill some of those voids.

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This kid has a lot of promise and I can't wait to see what he can do during a regular season.

I think people/fans over value our prospects. The kid played well when he was brought up, but we haven't really seen the kid play at the NHL level. If people are expecting this kid to come up and be one of our top d-men, then they're in for a real big dose of reality.

There's a very good reason why d-men mature and break into the league later than forwards. If you look at it logically it makes sense. The d-men are the last form of defense and considering we have a goalie who is still finding his confidence, I think Bob did the right thing by getting some vets to surround him.

As Weber gets more confident with the big boys, he'll start letting down his guard and that's where it gets dangerous. Now, if a defensive forward screws up, there are line mates and the defense to back him up; but if a d-man screws up, it could very well lead to a goal. Last year everyone was screaming for O'Byrne's head, he was a rookie going up against some of the best forwards in the world. Plain and simple, he made rookie mistakes, it's part of the learning process. I don't think Weber will put the puck in his own net, but he will screw up. He's going to be turned inside out by a high flying forward, sometime during this upcoming season. It's all a part of learning.

I have no doubt that Weber will play in Montreal this season, but I don't expect him to play big minutes. If the coaching staff is smart, they'll match him with a Markov or Spacek on every other shift and/or the odd PP. Bob signed Gil and Spacek to short term contracts for a reason, he's hoping that by the time their contracts are up, that we'll have our own d-men to take their place. In the event our d-men mature faster, Bob has trade bait and will be able to deal one away for a draft pick (trade deadline).

Like I mentioned in another post/thread, Bob's main focus should be on Price right now. Unfortunately, they screwed up by bringing him up so soon, now they're left to deal with it. Which means they have to make Price as comfortable as they can, by surrounding him with seasoned d-men. Bringing up Price -so soon- might've also stalled the development of our younger d-men. Price can't be sent down to mature, so, he's going to have to mature the hard way. Once he's ready and can steal games for us, we can start giving our younger d-men a chance. Until then, I'm sorry but it'll have to stay the way it is... With vet's playing the back end.

Considering Price hasn't (yet) become the franchise goalie everyone expected him to be, Bob did the right thing. The quickest way to build Price's confidence, is by having a solid defensive core in front of him. We don't have a Wings like defense, but it's much better than it was last season. Price will play a much better game knowing he has a solid team in front of him, instead of green rookies.

It's unfortunate, mistakes were made regarding Price. We're lucky that this mistake has only delayed the development by a few years. Some teams feel the consequences of bad moves for many years. Just look at the Blackhawks or the Leafs. The reason we had such a bad team in the later 90's and early 00, was due to bad moves on the part of Houle/Savard. Bob took a risk and he's paying for it today, some gambles pay off, some don't.

Weber will do fine, but we have to be patient with him and remember that he is a rookie.

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I don't want him anywhere near this team, I hate powerplay specialists. They're useless asides for 3-4 minutes per game. This is one time I like Gainey filling a kids hole with a veteran (Spacek). Let Weber work on his defensive game and learn to be a pro defenseman.

yannick is a PP specialist because this is what you guys are thinking....well go on like that and the same mistake will be made than with streit. looking at the comments going on right now, we are heading exactly to the same situation than 2 years ago with mark 1. we believe that he is not a good D, 2. we think that he can only play on the PP 3. we think that someone like o'byrne can be better off. time to learn from our mistake and wake up and look where mark is right now. big assist and goal scorer for the isles, plays in any situation (5on5, PP, PK), one of the best D in the league, perhaps C of the isles for the coming season and an all star member.

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