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from today's gazette carbo on weber:

Carbonneau clearly is at least a little intrigued by Weber.

"We like what he brought on the ice," he said.

"He has a great vision. We lost a guy like Mark Streit last year, and Sheldon Souray two years ago, so we're always trying to find ways to get that power play going.

"He's somebody we like at that position," Carbonneau said.

"I'm not saying that he's going to be starting here, but if something happens down the line where our power play's struggling, we know he's there."

he'd be stellar on the pp, no question, but he would be a defensive liability at even strength. as carbo says, it's nice to know he's there but there's no need to rush him, imho. o'byrne still struggles and he's further along in his development. as others have noted, it would be a disservice to weber to have him sitting on the bench or in the box when he could be getting top minutes and work on his defensive game in hamilton.

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from today's gazette carbo on weber:

Carbonneau clearly is at least a little intrigued by Weber.

"We like what he brought on the ice," he said.

"He has a great vision. We lost a guy like Mark Streit last year, and Sheldon Souray two years ago, so we're always trying to find ways to get that power play going.

"He's somebody we like at that position," Carbonneau said.

"I'm not saying that he's going to be starting here, but if something happens down the line where our power play's struggling, we know he's there."

he'd be stellar on the pp, no question, but he would be a defensive liability at even strength. as carbo says, it's nice to know he's there but there's no need to rush him, imho. o'byrne still struggles and he's further along in his development. as others have noted, it would be a disservice to weber to have him sitting on the bench or in the box when he could be getting top minutes and work on his defensive game in hamilton.

I agree. No point in letting the guy watch from the press box if he could use the ice time in Hamilton. I believe O'Byrne will stay up, but most of the other young D-men should be sent down to keep 'honing' their skills. As Carbo said, the Habs know he's there and will call on him if need be.

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I also agree. he does not need to be rushed and will be better served completing a year in the AHL.

Next year there will be three spots open of 7. Room for Carle, Webber, and other. Not sold on the Russian kid - he may need two more years. I know he was perhaps rated by many as the closest and most ready. Don't think so myself.

Unless an in injury call up - he's best served getting lots of ice time with the Bulldogs.

i think Pavel was alittle caught off guard by the speed up here, he will be back

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he'd be stellar on the pp, no question, but he would be a defensive liability at even strength. as carbo says, it's nice to know he's there but there's no need to rush him, imho. o'byrne still struggles and he's further along in his development. as others have noted, it would be a disservice to weber to have him sitting on the bench or in the box when he could be getting top minutes and work on his defensive game in hamilton.

Actually he is not as big a defensive liability as you may think.

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Actually he is not as big a defensive liability as you may think.

fair enough, i did only see one game live but in that game he didn't look nhl ready to me, especially in our zone. o'byrne outplayed him in that department, imho. that's not to say i don't see his potential, i certainly do, but he's not strong enough yet. he gets another kick at the can tonight. let's see what he can do against an offensive powerhouse (without their top line) and not just the stunted panthers. ;)

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fair enough, i did only see one game live but in that game he didn't look nhl ready to me, especially in our zone. o'byrne outplayed him in that department, imho. that's not to say i don't see his potential, i certainly do, but he's not strong enough yet. he gets another kick at the can tonight. let's see what he can do against an offensive powerhouse (without their top line) and not just the stunted panthers. ;)

Hey Bigsby I am going by his play last year in the OHL season, playoffs and Memorial Cup.

I too do not think he is NHL ready yet and think he would benefit by playing at least a year if not two in the AHL before graduating to the NHL.

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What if?

Scores tonight on PP against the Red Wings.

Basically who would we rather see on the roster. Dandenault or Weber?

Montreal has Markov, Komi, Hammer, O'Byrne, Gorges, and Bouillon basically set as the top 6. Montreal also has Brisebois and Dandenault. I assume Brisebois is press box most nights. Why not trade, waive, or buyout Dandenault. As far as I can tell their is no upside to Dandenault on the roster. However a young PP specialist (sort of like Streit) but with a shot as fast as Souray and the real potential that Weber will be top 3 within 3 seasons wouldn't it be worth the risk. If the experiment fails Weber can go to AHL without clearing waivers and Brisebois tries his luck on the PP. And Montreal gets rid of Dandenault whom has no overall benefit to the team, IMHO.

Leave Weber on the roster as 7th D. There are plenty of PP in the NHL and hopefully some situations when Montreal is leading by 3 or more goals when a rookie could get some shifts or when the other team is bottom of the barrel with no superstar to worry about (Toronto for example).

Weber is better defensively then most people assume. Weber is 20 years old, not an 18 year old kid. With lots and lots of ice time with Kitchener Rangers and a great plus/minus there he must be better then expected.

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Scores tonight on PP against the Red Wings.

Basically who would we rather see on the roster. Dandenault or Weber?

Dandenault, no competition. For an 8th defenseman, I'd much rather go with a guy whose career is almost over rather than a kid who has his whole career in front of him.

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Well take into account the fact that a puck will usually travel around the same acceleration rate no matter who shoots it, for exampls sake well use 40 MPH/second since I dont know the strandard rate.

So if a puck the second after contact from shooter A is travelling at 80 MPH for 0.5 seconds it will be 100 MPH when it reaches the net.

for shooter B after contact it starts at 85 MPH after 0.375 seconds it will be 100 MPH.

It may not seem that big a difference, but anyone who watches baseball here knows the difference between a 90 and 93 MPH fastball.

Problem with this theory... The only acceleration the puck experiences is the initial shot (theres no air or anything pushing the puck along, and unless the puck is falling off a cliff there is no extra energy to speed the puck up, if theres a mysterious force that i am not aware of im all ears)... The air/ice friction actually slows the puck down the longer the puck is still in motion... so a 100MPH shot could become 90MPH perhaps but the puck ends its acceleration the moment the puck leaves contact with the players stick...

and i highly doubt any of us who played goalie for any amount of time can gauge the speed of a puck with our naked eye... therefore one of us could have two shots back to back, 80MPH and 90MPH and think they were the same speed... which would give the goalie a false train of thought thinking the second puck was "heavy" but at the same speed as the first...

and pucks aren't bees ;)

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I think we should open a "THE PHYSICS OF HOCKEY" thread if we want to continue this discussion.

It would be fun arguing it out.

Now whether Weber's shot is fast , hard, etc. etc. it will be famous in the future.

Just needs a bit more accuracy, and once his nerves are not an issue, I am sure it will be.

The kid is going to be a good one.

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Hi there,

is there any chance Y. Weber gets a one-way?

He has already signed the following entry level two way contract:

2008-09: $587,500 (Cap Hit: $875,000) ($287,500 performance bonuses)

2009-10: $612,500 (Cap Hit: $875,000) ($262,500 performance bonuses)

2010-11: $637,500 (Cap Hit: $875,000) ($237,500 performance bonuses)

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Another Swiss to the Hab's D ?? Im proud of it - especially as he is a native of Zurich... my hometown...

Let's see if he makes the cut and stay at the Centre Bell; 11 D left at the moment; is that correct?

Would already been great for Yannick if he would be called up during the season if not taking the place before..

Anyway - a reason for me to be visitor at the Hab's board again :-) beside the Isles-one...

cheers and a good season for the Habs

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Depending on the injuries to our dmen, it's possible he starts the season here. However, I feel we would have been better keeping Valentenko, who is a bit more experienced. Weber has great offensive instincts, but he really needs to go to the AHL to play top minutes so he can work on his defense. Let's not make the Latendresse mistake again, which is: we see an immediate need (in this case, a good PP pointman) so we rush the kid to the NHL, and his flaws don't improve like they may with top minutes in the minors. Weber's an exciting prospect, I've seen him play junior in Kitchener, but I don't want another Souray or Streit: that is, good on the powerplay, but a liability at even strength. He'll probably never be an amazing defensive defenseman, but a year in the AHL could do wonders.

Pavel really struggled in camp thats why he was one of the first cuts, Weber has shown a ton more confidence

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Pavel really struggled in camp thats why he was one of the first cuts, Weber has shown a ton more confidence

I see, not promising for him in that case, I thought he was one of our most ready defensive prospects. So if that's the case, then what about Belle? I just don't think Weber should be our top defensive callup yet: he needs the AHL experience to fix up his defensive game.

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I see, not promising for him in that case, I thought he was one of our most ready defensive prospects. So if that's the case, then what about Belle? I just don't think Weber should be our top defensive callup yet: he needs the AHL experience to fix up his defensive game.

I like what Weber brings to the PP and IMO Weber is learning quickly from his mistakes. However, Belle could be the most ready of the D in Hamilton given that Valentenko did not look very good at camp.

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