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The question is simple, and the issue has come to the forefront, due to St Patrick's latest shinanigans on Saturday night. Some would say that other players are ahead in line for this honour (Lapointe and Schutt come to mind), and that's fine. The question I'm posing is should #33 someday hang in the rafters of the Bell Centre? Does the name Roy belong alongside Dryden, Richard, Lafleur, and Gainey? Here are a few blogs that I found (courtesy of habsinsideout.com) that got me thinking about this question...

http://www.habsinsideout.com/boone/5731

http://habsloyalist.blogspot.com/2008/03/roy-to-rafters.html

http://wwwrealitycheckeyesontheprize.blogs...ng-roys-33.html

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/1460...ate-honour.html

So, what do you think, Habs fans? Will it happen? Should it happen?

My personal opinion is this: In raising a number to the rafters, you honour the player who wore it and the team he was a part of. It is more a focus on the player than on the man. While he left the Habs under less-than-happy terms, I honestly think that Detroit game was the breaking point. While he went on to win 2 more Cups with the Avs, I don't think that would have happened had he stayed, especially with Tremblay behind the bench. He may have been an a-hole, but the fact is he stopped the pucks. He stopped them to the point that many of the records he set still stand to this day. Patrick Roy gave his all to the Canadiens for 10 years. He was integral to winning Cups 23 and 24, and if '89 had gone to a Game 7, I'd be willing to bet I wouldn't have the screen name I do. So yes, #33 should hang in the rafters. Maybe not in the Centennial year, but it should go up there someday.

I have changed the title as it has been confirmed that the press conference today will announce the retirement of Roy's #33.

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Guest Greek Hab

I think your poll questions should be more on the line of.

a) Yes, it should be retired for the centenial

b ) Yes, but wait a few more years

c) Never

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Guest FunkyOne

I think hockey fans are the most fickle people on this earth.

Roy was honored and loved for his antics by the majority of the hockey world (except Montreal, but ill get to that in a sec). Now after a melee in a junior league he has become public enemy number one. Canadiens fans are even worse because they just find reasons to hate Roy, everything he does is seen with contempt and disapproval. Yes he should have taken control of his team, and Johnathan Roy committed a very very wrong act (the unnecessary beat-down AND the flipping off of the fans) but to claim that Roy told his son to assault another kid (all that by a wave of the arm! I wish I had such manual brevity!) and that it is HIS fault is borderline stupid.

He did a lot for the Habs. Two cups on two "bad" teams. Great numbers, great achievements, great goalie. Never took a night off either. Yes he should, not now but down the line.

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During his playing career, I was one of Patrick Roy's biggest fan. I still have the 1993 authentic 33 jersey with the centennial Stanley Cup logo on it, hanging on my wall. He is arguably the best player to ever play the position and was an innovator in perfecting the butterfly style, as thousands of young goalies went on to copy him.

However, one can't separate the player and the man as it's one an only one person. HE had a knee-jerking reaction in telling Ronald Corey that he had played his last game in a Habs' uniform. HE ended his tenure with the team and the fans that idolized him and that, at the peak of his career. In spite of his relationship with Mario Tremblay, HE handled the situation poorly.

So in spite of his two Stanley Cups won with us, in spite of his two Conn Smythe trophies in '86 and '93, in spite of me being a fan of Patrick Roy the player, I voted that NO, we shouldn't retire his jersey anytime soon. When I look at the names of the players in the rafters, Roy is not in that category as a man, as an ambassador for the team.

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I guess it comes down to the player vs ambassador. I'd say yes, because he is a big part of Habs history and known as one of the greatest goaltenders of all time and brought us two cups. His behaviour off the ice has always been questionable at best, but I'd prefer we judge him as a player rather than rolemodel (and I honestly wish kids would look for more in a rolemodel than being good at sports)

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Guest Onzeee

Not within the next few years but yes one day number 33 should go up to the rafters, this organizations last 2 stanley cups were mostly because of him and he did an outstanding job here for 10 years he should be recognized with this honor down the road

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I say yes, because in all honesty, if not for Roy the PLAYER, we would probably be in a 30 year cup drought, and when it comes to honoring players in this team, we have to above all else, honor those who brought with them the teams greatest success, Patrick Roy certainly fits the bill.

Now i'm not saying it has to be next year, but if his number isn't retired within the next decade, I can honestly say I would be disapointed.

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Guest habfan6071

Do it for the centennial but who knows maybe they had decided to but found out Patrick wouldnt show up you retire his # if he isnt there I'm not saying he woud do tat PAtrick was my idol growing up but he didnt even show up for Robinson or Gaineys jersey retirements

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Guest TOP_SHELF

yeah he messed up but everyone makes mistakes, yes it's not the first time but he has the attitude of a winner and winners hate to lose....i hope we retire his number really soon!!!

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During his playing career, I was one of Patrick Roy's biggest fan. I still have the 1993 authentic 33 jersey with the centennial Stanley Cup logo on it, hanging on my wall. He is arguably the best player to ever play the position and was an innovator in perfecting the butterfly style, as thousands of young goalies went on to copy him.

However, one can't separate the player and the man as it's one an only one person. HE had a knee-jerking reaction in telling Ronald Corey that he had played his last game in a Habs' uniform. HE ended his tenure with the team and the fans that idolized him and that, at the peak of his career. In spite of his relationship with Mario Tremblay, HE handled the situation poorly.

So in spite of his two Stanley Cups won with us, in spite of his two Conn Smythe trophies in '86 and '93, in spite of me being a fan of Patrick Roy the player, I voted that NO, we shouldn't retire his jersey anytime soon. When I look at the names of the players in the rafters, Roy is not in that category as a man, as an ambassador for the team.

Oh and another reason to NOT retire his jersey:

Try finding a month with 33 days!

:lol:

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No rush.

When I think of Canadiens greats, I think of class, I think of big men known as overall gentlemen. Hmmm, I'll rile some here but Patrick could never be confused with the word humble. Perhaps that is why he was as good as he was.

While I don't like to throw out the word over-rated, time has a way of obscuring some of the bad playoff performances of Patrick Roy. Yes, he was absolutely phenomenal in our cup wins in 86 and 93. But does anyone remember some of his subpar performances in the playoffs when he was out performed by the opposing goalie? I didn't think so - that is what the memory does to us.

I am not bashing Roy, I remember his goaltending in 86 as some of the best I've ever seen. I just think the pedestal is a little to high.

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I definately vote yes. He's the best there was, the best there is, and best there ever will be in the NHL :)

Kovy, I respectfully disagree.

I would change your words to say that he was ONE of the best of ALL TIME. I've seen phenominal playoff performances from many goalies since 1968.

Tony O, Bernie Parent (the real reason the Flyers won Cups), Fuhr, Billy Smith, and many more...

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Guest hatethoseleafs

I don't know what the general feeling is like currently in Montreal but,,,as a fan living outside of La Belle Province i would have to vote Yes. I dont put any importance ( short of a major crime) towards his actions and emotions during a Junior hockey game.IMO what he did during his hockey carreer should be the determining factor regarding retiring a players number, and should not be tainted by this latest development. The guy always performed with passion and emotion and he made some faux pas during his carreer but its hard to dispute the stats that he produced. They're hall of fame stats and IMO good enough to hang from the rafters at the Bell.

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Guest GoHabsGo_CanucksAreChoking
I'm thinking now they might just make the playoffs..maybe

I know they clinched it but we all no how much Gary hates them

Here's a video of everyones 'favorite' NHL commissioner

Gary Bettman

Look at his face when he is going to speak :lol:

and I like this clip :)

the first 17 seconds made me laugh. :D

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Guest GoHabsGo_CanucksAreChoking
I say yes eventually. But i'm sure there are other players that deserve it before him.

I agree, he should be one of the later ones to retire.

Do it for the centennial but who knows maybe they had decided to but found out Patrick wouldnt show up you retire his # if he isnt there I'm not saying he woud do tat PAtrick was my idol growing up but he didnt even show up for Robinson or Gaineys jersey retirements

And I DO wonder if he would show up for the retirement of his number.

If he did not people would lose respect for him.

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Guest FlHabsFan

Look how long it took players like Bob, Larry, Ken and others to be retired. And how many other great players have yet to have their jersey's retired. I doubt youll see Roy's 33 in the rafters very soon. And with his antics, like JL said, he may of pushed that back even further. Especially if he is snubbing former team mates ceremonies. Just because he had an issue with the coaching staff and management over 10 years ago, is no reason to hold it against the orginazation now. Like was said, if they did retire his number, would he even show up?

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Oh and another reason to NOT retire his jersey:

Try finding a month with 33 days!

:lol:

I'd say March 3rd 2009 (3/3/2009) ;)

St. Patty is one of the greatest goalies this franchise has ever seen, he is up there with the likes of Plante and Dryden, and he deserves to have his number up there with them.

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Guest FlHabsFan

I think for any player to be retired during the centennial year, they would have to be super extraordinary. I mean "I have a trophy named after me" extraordinary. For all he did, I dont know if he qualifies for this honor.

If anything, they should have (and would be surprised if they didnt) do something to celebrate the ones already retired. Celebrate each decade seperately with a ceremony every few weeks or something.

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Guest jeff33

no rush, but yes, definetly. does he deserve to be up there with dryden and plante? if not for the way he left its an automatic yes. there are probably still many hab fans who lost respect for him based on that, and personally i dont agree with it. tremblay set out that night to humiliate him, imagine that happening now with brodeur or luongo. you dont embarrass your star player like that, especially not your star goalie who is high strung as they come, who just won you the cup. he requested to not play that night, and he asked to be taken out after the first and tremblay refused both times. anyone who doesnt understand his reaction to that should really put it in perspective. Roy is arguably the best ever, IMO he is for sure, but even to non fans there is a very strong case for that claim. his number has to be retired at some point

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Guest TORHABSFAN

Its a no brianer you have got to retire #33.There is nobody more deserving then Roy. He carried us on his back to 2 Stanley Cups. He is the greatest Goaltender of all time!March 3rd is the perfect day or St. Patrick'd day... What ever day it is .. I will be there to support my Hero!Its a no brianer you have got to retire #33.There is nobody more deserving then Roy. He carried us on his back to 2 Stanley Cups. He is the greatest Goaltender of all time!March 3rd is the perfect day or St. Patrick'd day... What ever day it is .. I will be there to support my Hero!

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