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  1. 1. Who will win this series?

    • Montreal in 4
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    • Montreal in 5
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    • Montreal in 6
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    • Montreal in 7
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    • Boston in 4
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    • Boston in 5
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    • Boston in 6
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    • Boston in 7
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Please note this is for general series discussion, game specific information belongs in the Gameday threads. - Graeme

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Boston Bruins (8) VS Montreal Canadiens (1)

SERIES SCHEDULE

Game 1: April 10 @ Montreal

7 p.m. ET, CBC, RDS

Game 2: April 12 @ Montreal

7 p.m. ET, CBC, RDS, VERSUS

Game 3: April 13 @ Boston

7 p.m. ET, CBC, RDS

Game 4: April 15 @ Boston

7 p.m. ET, CBC, RDS

*Game 5: April 17 @ Montreal

7 p.m. ET, CBC, RDS

*Game 6: April 19 @ Boston

TBD, CBC, RDS

*Game 7: April 21 @ Montreal

TBD, CBC, RDS

* if necessary

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Montreal will win if -- It can build up speed in the transition game. The Canadiens are blessed with a raft of fleet-footed forwards who, upon reaching full speed, can befuddle virtually any checking scheme. Boston does not have the horses on the blue line to get into foot races with Montreal's forwards.

Boston will win if -- It can stay out of the penalty box and give Tim Thomas a chance to shine. If you plan to upset the Canadiens this postseason, their power-play opportunities must be limited. This is a club that is good for a power play goal a game, which is huge in the postseason. If Boston can limit its times shorthanded, Thomas might just have a chance to put together a stretch of great games.

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Guest 77Bourque77

we win in 5 i think. should be a pretty tough battle between these two teams. knowing boston, they will want to hit everything in their path.ours boys need to play smart and fast. dump around their d to get in behind them.

get pumped boys its playoff time!!!

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Guest bigsby
Because I made a thread for each series as you will notice. This won't affect the game day threads.

i noticed. great idea. i was just curious why the habs one is here. (i feel like i should talk about the bruins...but i won't :D )

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Guest habsfan321
Because I made a thread for each series as you will notice. This won't affect the game day threads.

JL, Don't you think it might be a better idea to open a subforum called 2008 Playoffs in "Around the League" to avoid this mess?

Anyway, I'll say Montreal in 4. We'll be 12-0 against the Bruins!

PS: Alright... Who voted "Bruins in 4"? Darn lucky that the poll is anonymous...

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Guest LarryRobinson

LOL bruins in 4, we have a troll.

Do not underestimate the B's, I hate how our fan base is taking this lightly. Im quietly optimistic, Habs in 6. Sports are funny. If you think we can play one team twelve times and win every time, than you havent watched enough sports. Pucks will skip, players will fall, flukes can happen, and they will. We split in the first 4, win games 5 and 6.

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LOL bruins in 4, we have a troll.

Do not underestimate the B's, I hate how our fan base is taking this lightly. Im quietly optimistic, Habs in 6. Sports are funny. If you think we can play one team twelve times and win every time, than you havent watched enough sports. Pucks will skip, players will fall, flukes can happen, and they will. We split in the first 4, win games 5 and 6.

You're quite right, Larry - funny things happen in sports. Look at our last cup in 1993 - we matched a record with 11 straight playoff wins - which included a sweep of Buffalo...but that series was 4 straight 4-3 overtime wins. A sweep with 4 straight overtime games!!! As the Buffalo coach (rightly) said at the time (paraphrasing) "this could have gone either way - a bounce, a skip, fluke - and we (buffalo) just won 4 straight games"

My guess is that Carbo is doing everything he can to get the team not to underestimate boston, because if we do, you can bet we will lose game one...and frankly losing one of the first couple will give the B's just the motivation they need to think "we can beat the habs." Honestly, I think we should be able to win this series no matter what, but ideally we want to give everything we have & head back to boston up 2 games to none. If they win game 3 or 4, no problem, but losing 1 of the first 2 could really hurt.

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I'll make predictions but I don't believe it is that cut and dry. Habs "should" win this in 4 based on the season stats but this is the playoffs - an altogether different animal. Add to that Bergeron could potentially be back and the Bruins couold get a lift. While I don't think that Bergeron being back is a good thing skill wise his presence could inspire the Bruins not to mention the crowd in games 3 and 4 which could give the Bruins a boost. All in all though I think the Habs will take it and it won't go longer than 6 games.

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Guest LarryRobinson
If they win game 3 or 4, no problem, but losing 1 of the first 2 could really hurt.

Yep, I think thats my biggest fear. With all the hoopla about our domination over the B's dropping home ice advantage in the first two games will add alot of tension to this series both on the ice, in the media, and among the fans. I like you think we should win, but I do think the Habs will be tested both on the ice and in the locker room.

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Upsets can happen. That's why they are called "upsets", nobody expects them to happen. With that being said, I was not the one who voted for Boston in 4 :D

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Montreal in 5. Boston doesn't have the offense to beat our D + Price, and while good defensively, Montreal is just too fast and turns their top dman into a pilon. Boston's goaltender is good statistically and makes some "no way he could get that" saves, but overall is very unorthodox and can be exploited. Boston will pull off a win somehow in there, but barring a huge collapse on Montreal's part, this should be an easy one.

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This exists to discuss the series as a whole. Game specific information belongs in the Gameday thread.

Cool, then I guess this post that I made in the analysis thread belongs here.

IT'S THE PLAYOFFS HAB'S FANS.

FROM TSN:

Game Date Matchup

1 Thursday, April 10, 7pm et Boston @ Montreal

2 Saturday, April 12, 7pm et Boston @ Montreal

3 Sunday, April 13, 7pm et Montreal @ Boston

4 Tuesday, April 15, 7pm et Montreal @ Boston

*5 Thursday, April 17, 7pm et Boston @ Montreal

*6 Saturday, April 19, TBD Montreal @ Boston

*7 Monday, April 21, TBD Boston @ Montreal

* If Necessary

MONTREAL CANADIENS

Regular Season Record: 47-25-10, 104 pts

Head-to-Head Record: 8-0

Last Stanley Cup Win: 1993

Last Stanley Cup Final Appearance: 1993

Last Postseason Appearance: 2006

Players with Stanley Cup Rings: Alex Kovalev, Mathieu Dandenault (3), Patrice Brisebois

A reason to cheer for the Canadiens: Captain Saku Koivu is the Habs' heart and soul - a player who has done so much to earn the respect and admiration of fans without hoisting the Stanley Cup. He battled injuries, endured media pressure, won a hard-fought battle with cancer and turned that battle into something positive for his community. He's one of the game's true good guys, and a Stanley Cup win would be icing on the cake for his long-lasting legacy in Montreal.

What They Bring To The Table: The Canadiens were the biggest surprise of the regular season, finishing with a 104-point campaign and their first conference title in 19 years. A big factor for this was their top-ranked offence and power play, led up front by the top line of Alex Kovalev, Tomas Plekanec and Andrei Kostitsyn. They also have scoring depth with Chris Higgins, Michael Ryder and swingman Mark Streit, but things could get tough if Saku Koivu is out of the lineup for a prolonged period of time. Coach Guy Carbonneau will count on youngsters Sergei Kostitsyn, Mikhail Grabovski and Maxim Lapierre to step it up and they'll have plenty of support from veterans Bryan Smolinski and Steve Begin. The defence is rock solid, with Andrei Markov and Mike Komisarek as the top shutdown duo. Roman Hamrlik has been earning his pay well as a stabilizing blueliner and rookie Ryan O'Byrne is quickly following suit. With so much youth in their lineup, playoff inexperience could be an issue, and no where is it more obvious than in goal. Rookie Carey Price has been everything the Canadiens expected and more, but there's pressure from the fans and media to duplicate the Stanley Cup-winning success that Ken Dryden and Patrick Roy did in their first seasons.

BOSTON BRUINS

Regular Season Record: 41-29-12, 94 pts

Head-to-Head Record: 0-7-1

Last Stanley Cup Win: 1972

Last Stanley Cup Final Appearance: 1990

Last Postseason Appearance: 2004

Players with Stanley Cup Rings: Aaron Ward, Shawn Thornton

A reason to cheer for the Bruins: The New England Patriots carried a perfect record into the Super Bowl, the Boston Celtics are odds-on favourites to head to the NBA Finals and the chances of the Red Sox winning their third World Series in five years are pretty good. Having the Bruins mentioned in the same breath would be a great story for a city that can easily call itself the best sports town in North America.

What They Bring To The Table: The Bruins are a great story this season considering the injuries they've had to endure. They lost the services of playmaker Patrice Bergeron very early in the season and also had to play stretches without Glen Murray, Marc Savard and Chuck Kobasew. With that considered, head coach Claude Julien spent the campaign employing a defensive game. It wasn't fun to watch on most nights, but it certainly helped get the wins necessary to make the playoffs. Up front, Savard stepped up on offence with 60+ assists while Marco Sturm tallied a career high in points. Where Boston lacks scoring, they certainly make up for it with toughness and grit. Shawn Thornton and Jeremy Reich give opponents a tough time on most nights, while rookie Milan Lucic has quickly become a fan favourite with his fearless style of play. That toughness has also trickled down to the defence, with Andrew Ference, Shane Hnidy and captain Zdeno Chara patrolling the blueline. Tim Thomas displays a great deal of athleticism in goal, and it will be interesting to see how he handles the rigors of postseason play.

Statistical keys to the series

- Montreal ranked first in the league on the power play, with a 24.2% success rate. Boston ranked 16th at 20.6%.

- Montreal ranked 15th in the league in penalty killing, with an 82.5% success rate. Boston ranked 28th at 78.6%.

- Montreal ranked second in the league with 3.13 goals per game.

- Montreal ranked 26th in the league with 31.6 shots allowed per game.

- Mike Komisarek (266), Francis Bouillon (168) and Roman Hamrlik (138) are the Canadiens' leading hitters.

- Zdeno Chara (223), Milan Lucic (181) and Aaron Ward (143) are the Bruins' leading hitters.

- Saku Koivu is the Canadiens' top face-off man -- 52.3%.

- Marc Savard is the Bruins' top face-off man -- 51.6%.

- Boston's Marc Savard ranked third in the league with 63 assists.

- Montreal's Alex Kovalev tied for fourth in the league with 17 power play goals.

- Boston's Zdeno Chara ranked third in the league with 26:50 of ice time per game.

- Andrei Kostitsyn led the Canadiens with 11 points in seven games against the Bruins this year.

- Marc Savard led the Bruins with nine points in eight games against the Canadiens this year.

- Montreal's leaders in power play ice time (per game):

Andrei Markov 5:10

Mark Streit 4:52

Alex Kovalev 4:09

Saku Koivu 3:30

Tomas Plekanec 3:25

Chris Higgins 3:12

- Boston's leaders in power play ice time (per game):

Zdeno Chara 4:20

Marc Savard 4:11

Glen Murray 3:44

Patrice Bergeron 3:44

Dennis Wideman 3:43

Marco Sturm 3:19

- Montreal's leaders in penalty killing ice time (per game):

Mike Komisarek 3:21

Andrei Markov 3:10

Roman Hamrlik 3:06

Francis Bouillon 2:42

Steve Begin 2:14

Bryan Smolinski 1:51

- Boston's leaders in penalty killing ice time (per game):

Zdeno Chara 3:37

P.J. Azelsson 3:13

Dennis Wideman 2:57

Glen Metropolit 2:49

Andrew Ference 2:45

Aaron Ward 2:28

Important keys to this game in my opinion:

- Even though people don't like Chara, the fact remains that he's one of the best defensemen in the league and he has proven to be a true leader for the Bruins this year. If we get under his skin like we've done in the past we'll maximize our chances of winning.

- We have to use our speed against a slower Bruins team, they can't keep up with us therefore we need to set the tempo of the game.

- Captain Koivu will be the added spark we need for this series and here's hoping that he returns.

- Kovy just needs to take over and be the dominant force that he's been all year. There's no one on the Bruins that's a match for his talent.

- The veterans like Smokes, Dandy, Breezer need to step it up since they've all been here before and they also need to mentor and be the calming force for the youngsters.

Even though we won the season series 8-0 we can't take this team for granted. They've battled all year and earned a spot in the playoffs after every expert picked them to finish last in the east. They cannot be taken lightly in this series, we need to step it up even more.

This is it folks, Habs - Bruins, first round. I don't know about the rest of you but I'm really excited. Let's get ready to rummmmmmmmmmble!

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\- Montreal ranked first in the league on the power play, with a 24.2% success rate. Boston ranked 16th at 20.6%.

This is our clear edge over any team - not just boston - lets hope they take a lot of penalties ;):P

- Montreal ranked 15th in the league in penalty killing, with an 82.5% success rate. Boston ranked 28th at 78.6%.

This is actually a very notable stat - we were ranked something like 27th or 28th in december. The PK has REALLY turned it around lately & finishing middle of the pack shows how well its done over the past couple of months. We're still not as strong as we were last year with Bonk/Johnson as our first line of defense, but we're getting better (and are much more of a shorthanded threat) this year.

- Montreal ranked second in the league with 3.13 goals per game.

Whan was the last time we were ranked 2nd in goals??? :P

- Andrei Kostitsyn led the Canadiens with 11 points in seven games against the Bruins this year.

The KPK line will of course be key in this series. Would be nice to have Sax back, but i think if we can cruise to a somewhat fast victory, the extra weeks off for the captain will help for what will likely be a harder second round matchup.

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Cool, then I guess this post that I made in the analysis thread belongs here.

IT'S THE PLAYOFFS HAB'S FANS.

FROM TSN:

Game Date Matchup

1 Thursday, April 10, 7pm et Boston @ Montreal

2 Saturday, April 12, 7pm et Boston @ Montreal

3 Sunday, April 13, 7pm et Montreal @ Boston

4 Tuesday, April 15, 7pm et Montreal @ Boston

*5 Thursday, April 17, 7pm et Boston @ Montreal

*6 Saturday, April 19, TBD Montreal @ Boston

*7 Monday, April 21, TBD Boston @ Montreal

* If Necessary

MONTREAL CANADIENS

Regular Season Record: 47-25-10, 104 pts

Head-to-Head Record: 8-0

Last Stanley Cup Win: 1993

Last Stanley Cup Final Appearance: 1993

Last Postseason Appearance: 2006

Players with Stanley Cup Rings: Alex Kovalev, Mathieu Dandenault (3), Patrice Brisebois

A reason to cheer for the Canadiens: Captain Saku Koivu is the Habs' heart and soul - a player who has done so much to earn the respect and admiration of fans without hoisting the Stanley Cup. He battled injuries, endured media pressure, won a hard-fought battle with cancer and turned that battle into something positive for his community. He's one of the game's true good guys, and a Stanley Cup win would be icing on the cake for his long-lasting legacy in Montreal.

What They Bring To The Table: The Canadiens were the biggest surprise of the regular season, finishing with a 104-point campaign and their first conference title in 19 years. A big factor for this was their top-ranked offence and power play, led up front by the top line of Alex Kovalev, Tomas Plekanec and Andrei Kostitsyn. They also have scoring depth with Chris Higgins, Michael Ryder and swingman Mark Streit, but things could get tough if Saku Koivu is out of the lineup for a prolonged period of time. Coach Guy Carbonneau will count on youngsters Sergei Kostitsyn, Mikhail Grabovski and Maxim Lapierre to step it up and they'll have plenty of support from veterans Bryan Smolinski and Steve Begin. The defence is rock solid, with Andrei Markov and Mike Komisarek as the top shutdown duo. Roman Hamrlik has been earning his pay well as a stabilizing blueliner and rookie Ryan O'Byrne is quickly following suit. With so much youth in their lineup, playoff inexperience could be an issue, and no where is it more obvious than in goal. Rookie Carey Price has been everything the Canadiens expected and more, but there's pressure from the fans and media to duplicate the Stanley Cup-winning success that Ken Dryden and Patrick Roy did in their first seasons.

BOSTON BRUINS

Regular Season Record: 41-29-12, 94 pts

Head-to-Head Record: 0-7-1

Last Stanley Cup Win: 1972

Last Stanley Cup Final Appearance: 1990

Last Postseason Appearance: 2004

Players with Stanley Cup Rings: Aaron Ward, Shawn Thornton

A reason to cheer for the Bruins: The New England Patriots carried a perfect record into the Super Bowl, the Boston Celtics are odds-on favourites to head to the NBA Finals and the chances of the Red Sox winning their third World Series in five years are pretty good. Having the Bruins mentioned in the same breath would be a great story for a city that can easily call itself the best sports town in North America.

What They Bring To The Table: The Bruins are a great story this season considering the injuries they've had to endure. They lost the services of playmaker Patrice Bergeron very early in the season and also had to play stretches without Glen Murray, Marc Savard and Chuck Kobasew. With that considered, head coach Claude Julien spent the campaign employing a defensive game. It wasn't fun to watch on most nights, but it certainly helped get the wins necessary to make the playoffs. Up front, Savard stepped up on offence with 60+ assists while Marco Sturm tallied a career high in points. Where Boston lacks scoring, they certainly make up for it with toughness and grit. Shawn Thornton and Jeremy Reich give opponents a tough time on most nights, while rookie Milan Lucic has quickly become a fan favourite with his fearless style of play. That toughness has also trickled down to the defence, with Andrew Ference, Shane Hnidy and captain Zdeno Chara patrolling the blueline. Tim Thomas displays a great deal of athleticism in goal, and it will be interesting to see how he handles the rigors of postseason play.

Statistical keys to the series

- Montreal ranked first in the league on the power play, with a 24.2% success rate. Boston ranked 16th at 20.6%.

- Montreal ranked 15th in the league in penalty killing, with an 82.5% success rate. Boston ranked 28th at 78.6%.

- Montreal ranked second in the league with 3.13 goals per game.

- Montreal ranked 26th in the league with 31.6 shots allowed per game.

- Mike Komisarek (266), Francis Bouillon (168) and Roman Hamrlik (138) are the Canadiens' leading hitters.

- Zdeno Chara (223), Milan Lucic (181) and Aaron Ward (143) are the Bruins' leading hitters.

- Saku Koivu is the Canadiens' top face-off man -- 52.3%.

- Marc Savard is the Bruins' top face-off man -- 51.6%.

- Boston's Marc Savard ranked third in the league with 63 assists.

- Montreal's Alex Kovalev tied for fourth in the league with 17 power play goals.

- Boston's Zdeno Chara ranked third in the league with 26:50 of ice time per game.

- Andrei Kostitsyn led the Canadiens with 11 points in seven games against the Bruins this year.

- Marc Savard led the Bruins with nine points in eight games against the Canadiens this year.

- Montreal's leaders in power play ice time (per game):

Andrei Markov 5:10

Mark Streit 4:52

Alex Kovalev 4:09

Saku Koivu 3:30

Tomas Plekanec 3:25

Chris Higgins 3:12

- Boston's leaders in power play ice time (per game):

Zdeno Chara 4:20

Marc Savard 4:11

Glen Murray 3:44

Patrice Bergeron 3:44

Dennis Wideman 3:43

Marco Sturm 3:19

- Montreal's leaders in penalty killing ice time (per game):

Mike Komisarek 3:21

Andrei Markov 3:10

Roman Hamrlik 3:06

Francis Bouillon 2:42

Steve Begin 2:14

Bryan Smolinski 1:51

- Boston's leaders in penalty killing ice time (per game):

Zdeno Chara 3:37

P.J. Azelsson 3:13

Dennis Wideman 2:57

Glen Metropolit 2:49

Andrew Ference 2:45

Aaron Ward 2:28

Important keys to this game in my opinion:

- Even though people don't like Chara, the fact remains that he's one of the best defensemen in the league and he has proven to be a true leader for the Bruins this year. If we get under his skin like we've done in the past we'll maximize our chances of winning.

- We have to use our speed against a slower Bruins team, they can't keep up with us therefore we need to set the tempo of the game.

- Captain Koivu will be the added spark we need for this series and here's hoping that he returns.

- Kovy just needs to take over and be the dominant force that he's been all year. There's no one on the Bruins that's a match for his talent.

- The veterans like Smokes, Dandy, Breezer need to step it up since they've all been here before and they also need to mentor and be the calming force for the youngsters.

Even though we won the season series 8-0 we can't take this team for granted. They've battled all year and earned a spot in the playoffs after every expert picked them to finish last in the east. They cannot be taken lightly in this series, we need to step it up even more.

This is it folks, Habs - Bruins, first round. I don't know about the rest of you but I'm really excited. Let's get ready to rummmmmmmmmmble!

Excellent stats and overview. One thing though, how do we finish second for goals per games and first for goals? Ottawa and Montreal did play the same amount of games. They take into consideration the goals scored by deadline acquisitions before they joined the team?

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I was wondering about the goal thing too... my guess would be the stat machine NHL.com uses isnt all that accurate... I didnt add up every goal from every game... but assuming the 'montreal 262, ottawa 261' then ofcourse we have more... according to NHL.coms stat machine, ottawa had 3.15 GPG, which adds up to 258.3 goals, and where it says montreal with 3.13 GPG, it would be 256.66... both of these are off from the 261, and 262... I know it really doesnt matter, but like to set it straight... wouldnt want to be compared to those lowly senators ;)

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Excellent stats and overview. One thing though, how do we finish second for goals per games and first for goals? Ottawa and Montreal did play the same amount of games. They take into consideration the goals scored by deadline acquisitions before they joined the team?

Thank you.

I'm not sure, I'm assuming the overtime comes into play.

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