Johnny_rudeboy Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Whether they got all the breaks or not, or didn't deserve to win, they fact is they did AND Price was still sub par I have to agree with you on all counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckoff1 Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 I have to agree with you on all counts. yeah i would too, as much as it had to do with not putting them in it was just as much of a problem as the not keeping them out part. it wasnt carey's fault we lost, as if it were 6-5 losses, but im not going to defend him either he let in several weak goals in that series Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sach Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 we never got consistent big saves in that series and the countless weak goals make Carey hugely responsible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHaul Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Can't agree more. Glad to see that I'm not the only one to have noticed that, afterall. Philly didn't deserve to win and they got all of the breaks. As I had mentioned before, they won't against the Pens and for those who were blaming that loss on our goaltending... Still on this eh? Saying it was all luck is one thing, but to take it a step further and say they didn't deserve to win is just laughable. They beat us 4 games to 1. It's more than just "luck". It's a combination of things. Habs not scoring, Flyers playing their rough, crease crashing game and yes, weak goaltending for the Habs, all contributed. When a team wins a series 4 to 1, its safe to say they "deserved" it. Wow, talk about denial. Time to give them some credit. Also, I hardly think that the pens scoring a few goals is "proof" that the flyers didn't "deserve" to beat the Habs. That's your opinion, that's fine, and I'm not going into that again as going in circles isn't what I qualify as fun or productive. And you've stated yours plenty of times. Why does that not constitute "going in circles"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innis_Mor Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Can't agree more. Glad to see that I'm not the only one to have noticed that, afterall. Philly didn't deserve to win and they got all of the breaks. As I had mentioned before, they won't against the Pens and for those who were blaming that loss on our goaltending, here's an article that summarizes really well our exit and its true reasons: Malkin scores twice as Penguins draw first blood in Eastern Conference final By Pierre Lebrun, The Canadian Press PITTSBURGH - The Philadelphia Flyers took out the Montreal Canadiens in the second round the NHL playoffs with a bend-don't-break style that frustrated the Habs to no end. Outshot and outchanced in most of that series, the Flyers still prevailed in a short, five-game set in large part because goalie Martin Biron was terrific and the Canadiens couldn't finish. If Game 1 of the Eastern Conference final was any indication Friday night, that Flyers won't get away with that this time around. Unlike the Canadiens, the Pittsburgh Penguins polished off their scoring chances. "We did a great job of capitalizing," star centre Sidney Crosby said after a 4-2 victory over the Flyers. Full article... Yup. Hab goaltending was in the region of reason #5 for the Habs not surviving the Flyers, yet for Carbo, the media, and many fans, it resonated as reason # 1. (Only wrt Carbo did it matter, and it was only on that count that I was really disappointed.) IMHO, reasons # 1 through # 4 (and in no particular order were, because that's whole other discussion): dumb luck / dumb bad luck Biron playing out of his head (and out of his league, as we've seen before and since) Hab skaters not finishing (post and out, instead of post and in) and the stinkin' (quite literally!) Hab PP The Flyers horseshoes got all used up in the Hab series: in that series the puck would deflect off a Flyer stick or body part and go in the top corner on the Hab goaltender after nicking the post. Now? It deflects off a Flyer stick into a Flyer body part (the face of the best dressed Flyer defenseman (meaning the best Flyer defenseman that is dressed for the game, aka Cobourn)) and he's out for at least a couple of games. So reason # 5 couldn't make up for reasons # 1 through # 4. So what. The coach shouldn't have harangued on that so much; Hab PP and Hab finish needed more haranguing instead. Carbo let them off the hook and largely hung it on a couple of young goaltenders who played fine. Just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randy15 Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Still on this eh? Saying it was all luck is one thing, but to take it a step further and say they didn't deserve to win is just laughable. They beat us 4 games to 1. It's more than just "luck". It's a combination of things. Habs not scoring, Flyers playing their rough, crease crashing game and yes, weak goaltending for the Habs, all contributed. When a team wins a series 4 to 1, its safe to say they "deserved" it. Wow, talk about denial. Time to give them some credit. It is laughable that people would rather point to luck than hold the team accountable for losing 4 out of 5 games to a lesser team. Luck always plays a part, but as you say the argument that luck is the deciding factor in a 4-1 series loss is not rational. They made more plays than we did, whether those plays were made by their goaltender or by 3rd line wingers taking advantage of their opportunities, it all boils down to that. Yes we are better, more skilled...but ultimately we are not more deserving to be where the Flyers are right now b/c we were outplayed in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teststory Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Thats weird because I thought we deserved to lose vs the Bruins, but deserved to win against the Flyers. Overall we had a lot more quality scoring chances against the Flyers and allowed less scoring chances against, but they were able to capitalize on their opportunities. With the puck being so small in hockey a lot of times it is the bounces that win you the games, but it's also confidence and this team didn't have much confidence for whatever reason when the playoffs began and it carried over a bit from the first round into the second round. They just weren't the same team they were during the regular season. I think a lot of it was the pressure to score on the powerplay that was generated by them failing to do so vs Boston. That demoralized them a great deal as they took great pride in the powerplay during the regular season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357908_1475251331 Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 blaming this team for losing the flyer's series is like blaming the waitress for what the management made the cook try to make. it was nobodies fault in particular, just a bad idea surfaced- maybe the doctor orderded it with all the injuries, and it took a dumb team like the flyers to take advantage of it- a team that just looked bigger and bigger to itself with every victory, and the support of already having had a comeback year like from out of a fantasy novel and believed in itself far beyond its true scope as a team. i suggest forgetting it, because a tried and true method it will NEVER become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bailey1 Posted May 18, 2008 Report Share Posted May 18, 2008 ^^^^^ Well, no one has actually written in this thread since May 12, so if anyone needs to forget about this series, mate, it's you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny_canuck_21 Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 ^^^^^ Well, no one has actually written in this thread since May 12, so if anyone needs to forget about this series, mate, it's you... And I guess you and me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp73 Posted May 20, 2008 Report Share Posted May 20, 2008 Below average goaltending didn;t help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHaul Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Below average goaltending didn;t help It certainly didn't Regis. It certainly didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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