jordanjordan Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 And he hasn't proven he's elite, not by a long shot. His point totals have declined since 2005-06 -- down to 37 in 07-08 -- and he finished near the bottom of his team in plus-minus. He's a good young d-man with promise, but if I'm going to throw that kind of scratch around, I throw it at a proven elite d-man. Your right, making the canadian national team doesn't prove that much.....maybe when u think elite, you think of Bobby Orr but what i mean by an elite defenceman i think top top ten in the NHL as of right now. I know its a fair lump of change but we all know how hard it is to attract an (By my standards of course) elite d-man. I admit 37 points isn't staggering but nontheless thats 15 goals and 22 assists.......playing for florida! He was -5 this past year, on a team that saw olli jokinen drop to -19. kirk maltby was -8 playing for the Detroit red wings. mark streit finished -6 this year and well near the bottom of the team but i dont think thats going to stop him from making 3.5-4.5 mil this year and we all know streit is by far better at one end of the ice than the other. Regardless bouwmeester has accompliced so much and has the best of his years coming to him but isnt worth 6 million dollars? by the way all of this by the age of 23. i compare him alot to a young scott niedermayer. Tell me, knowing what you know now, would you throw the equivalent of 6 million at scott niedermayer when he was 23? Obviously they aren't the same player and their is no way of knowing what the future holds but if he were a game of poker, I would be ALL-IN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExPat-In-Ypsi Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Jeff Carter 10yrs at 50mill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted June 17, 2008 Report Share Posted June 17, 2008 Jeff Carter 10yrs at 50mill The day Gainey pitches that offer sheet I will eat my pants. Not that I wouldn't mind Carter on the team, though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sach Posted June 18, 2008 Report Share Posted June 18, 2008 Jay Bouwmeester, Corey Perry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
risteenhuis Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 Jay Bouwmeester. Florida picked up two good defencemen when they trade away Jokinen. I think Jay Bouwmeester is available via a trade for some forwards and prospects. He is one of the very best under 25 defencemen in the NHL. Still no contract with Panthers. If trade cannot be made then offer 7 to 9 years and $6 to $7.5 million per season. He is worth 4 first round picks, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauro-Biello Posted June 21, 2008 Report Share Posted June 21, 2008 If a GM decided to match an offer, can you back again at the same player right away? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strutsboa Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Maybe take a shot at Dennis Wideman? 25 years, 36 points (13 goals), +11, avg 25:09 minutes and is a righthand shooter. How much will Boston offer him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Just curious... I guess Anaheim isn't doing anything about signing Perry before July 1st. I guess he's definitely going to be receiving some offer sheets. We had better watch out, ol' Burke is going to be on the rampage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner_canadian Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Just curious... I guess Anaheim isn't doing anything about signing Perry before July 1st. I guess he's definitely going to be receiving some offer sheets. We had better watch out, ol' Burke is going to be on the rampage! What would Corey Perry be worth?? I offer him an offer sheet. 5.75 Mil for 6 years....Most likely would not get him for that though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamkennelly Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Paul Gaustad Buffalo Sabres Centre 6'5" 230. Lead Sabres in hits, and faceoff percentage and is a forechecking machine. Skates very well and gets 40-50 points a year on Buffalo's third line. Played all 82 games last year and is an energy guy. He wouldn't cost too much and is the type of player Montreal needs. I agree 100% - I have him listed on my key target additions for next year. Perfect fit for what we need, big center, wins faceoffs, can hit, fight and forecheck. Perfect and not too costly at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne-1 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 If a GM decided to match an offer, can you back again at the same player right away?no, a signed offer sheet is a binding contract, superseded only by the right to match which is a binding contract as well... as soon as a player signs an offer sheet, he will be compensated under those exact terms, it's just a matter of by which team, the new one or the old one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alzimutg Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 If I was Bob I would worry about my own RFAS: Kost, Obyrne, Halak, etc. We are not gonna make any offer sheet this year, with that situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romy22 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Paul Gaustad Buffalo Sabres Centre 6'5" 230. Lead Sabres in hits, and faceoff percentage and is a forechecking machine. Skates very well and gets 40-50 points a year on Buffalo's third line. Played all 82 games last year and is an energy guy. He wouldn't cost too much and is the type of player Montreal needs. A former Rochester American walking into a dressing room with this many former Bulldogs. Makes for an interesting first day of training camp *L* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne-1 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 if there's a better place for this post, please move it... http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=241639&lid...=headlines_main The Montreal Canadiens have extended qualifying offers to forwards Mikhail Grabovski, Andrei Kostitsyn and Corey Locke, defencemen Josh Gorges and Ryan O'Byrne and goaltender Jaroslav Halak. All six players are set to become restricted free agents on July 1. Teams are required to extend a one-year qualifying offer to potential restricted free agents by June 25 in order to receive the right of first refusal or draft choice compensation should that respective player sign an offer sheet with another NHL club. If a team does not give a qualifying offer to a restricted free agent, he is eligible to become an unrestricted free agent on July 1 and can sign with any team without compensation. Players have until July 15 to accept or decline the offer. Depending on their NHL experience, certain restricted free agents who decline their team's qualifying offer can opt to go to arbitration to settle their contract. - 30 - Locke is a surprise since it couldn't be clearer this organization doesn't think he's NHL-calibre... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny_canuck_21 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Players have until July 15 to accept or decline the offer. Depending on their NHL experience, certain restricted free agents who decline their team's qualifying offer can opt to go to arbitration to settle their contract. Locke is a surprise since it couldn't be clearer this organization doesn't think he's NHL-calibre... I'm surprised about Locke too, unless they think they can get something for him. His salary can't be very much. Maybe they need a few bodies for the AHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royownsall Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Thats good so if a team try's to sign our player to a crazy offer we get atleast some picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Only 6? I figured we'd try to keep more around, although maybe a lot of the Bulldogs are UFAs already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krusher55 Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Only 6? I figured we'd try to keep more around, although maybe a lot of the Bulldogs are UFAs already. who haven't we tendered offers to then? ANyone have a list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royownsall Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 RFA BONNEAU, JIMMY GRABOVSKI, MIKHAIL HALAK, JAROSLAV KASTSITSYN, ANDREI LAHTI, JANNE LOCKE, COREY O'BYRNE, RYAN DEGON, MARVIN GORGES, JOSH UFA: ARCHER, ANDREW COTE, JEAN-PHILIPPE FERLAND, JONATHAN MILROY, DUNCAN ENGELHARDT, BRETT DANIS, YANN UFA from minors leaving Unsigned RFA Black staying/coompensation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stajan1 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 RFA BONNEAU, JIMMY GRABOVSKI, MIKHAIL HALAK, JAROSLAV KASTSITSYN, ANDREI LAHTI, JANNE LOCKE, COREY O'BYRNE, RYAN DEGON, MARVIN GORGES, JOSH UFA: ARCHER, ANDREW COTE, JEAN-PHILIPPE FERLAND, JONATHAN MILROY, DUNCAN ENGELHARDT, BRETT DANIS, YANN UFA from minors leaving Unsigned RFA Black staying/coompensation no great loss to us. ferland and cote had some fire in my eyes but there are younger hungrier and more talented kids waiting to have there chance instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js2 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Why wouldn't Gainey just let Locke become an UFA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romy22 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Ferland has signed to play in Europe. JP & Dunc are probably also done. Too bad. I like Duncan...he played well in that brief call up 2 years ago...but never caught a long term break in the NHL. Both he and Locke have what I will call "Jason Ward Syndrome". Tear up the "A", but don't get the same numbers in the NHL. Archer can't catch a break. He's had so many injuries the last few years. I thought he might follow Komi's path into the NHL as a Stay at Home guy who would develop into a rock, but he's been torn up so bad....might be a career Minor Leaguer. Not sure what the deal is with Lahti...he had some injuires and spent some time in the Doghouse (no pun intended) last year. Did I hear Europe for him, can't recall?!?!? Degon was pretty good last year. I'd like to see him back in Hamilton. Danis might get a shot as a back up somewhere else. We can't forget this guy started both his AHL & NHL carerrs with shutouts. He's a good goalie. Guys just keep leapfrogging him on the depth chart....first Halak then Carey. Bonneau can go. Useless, IMO. My .02. Spend it how you see fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedome_mtl Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 RFA BONNEAU, JIMMY GRABOVSKI, MIKHAIL HALAK, JAROSLAV KASTSITSYN, ANDREI LAHTI, JANNE LOCKE, COREY O'BYRNE, RYAN DEGON, MARVIN GORGES, JOSH UFA: ARCHER, ANDREW COTE, JEAN-PHILIPPE FERLAND, JONATHAN MILROY, DUNCAN ENGELHARDT, BRETT DANIS, YANN UFA from minors leaving Unsigned RFA Black staying/coompensation Poor colour choices for your list of UFA's.........I can't even see them ,never mind read them! Well,I guess I'll go on to the next post and hope that I can see it!My old eyes don't see this stuff so good ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bailey1 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Thats good so if a team try's to sign our player to a crazy offer we get atleast some picks. We'd be the last team other GMs would be wanting to give some free picks to. We rock house at drafting! Timmins FTW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codo27 Posted June 26, 2008 Report Share Posted June 26, 2008 Both he and Locke have what I will call "Jason Ward Syndrome". Tear up the "A", but don't get the same numbers in the NHL. Jason Ward Syndrome, nice. Yeah we really gotta hand it to Gainey and Timmins, I believe they've solidified the success of the franchise for years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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