Pats-Player Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Steve Simmons of the Toronto Star is reporting that Lemiuex was not happy with Therrien's coaching during the playoffs. Orpik stated that he wouldn't resign unless they hired a new coach, and Staal isn't a fan eiher. http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/Columnist...777636-sun.html paragraphs 4 and 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innis_Mor Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Steve Simmons of the Toronto Star is reporting that Lemiuex was not happy with Therrien's coaching during the playoffs. Orpik stated that he wouldn't resign unless they hired a new coach, and Staal isn't a fan eiher. http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/Columnist...777636-sun.html paragraphs 4 and 5 Habs to help them out? Trade one regular and a small bushel of prospects for Staal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl-1 Posted June 5, 2008 Report Share Posted June 5, 2008 Steve Simmons is trying to stir stuff. I don't buy it one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_rudeboy Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Steve Simmons of the Toronto Star is reporting that Lemiuex was not happy with Therrien's coaching during the playoffs. Orpik stated that he wouldn't resign unless they hired a new coach, and Staal isn't a fan eiher. http://www.torontosun.com/Sports/Columnist...777636-sun.html paragraphs 4 and 5 I do not know if I can believe this one either. Under 24 hours after the Stanley Cup series is over and already some story that the Pittsburgh players are unhappy. I think I will wait to see if something more surfaces in the next few weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Therien took a bunch of 20 yr olds to the stanley cup finals...... Ya he did a bad job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianMike Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Therien took a bunch of 20 yr olds to the stanley cup finals...... Ya he did a bad job? seriously! I won't even bother reading the article because I call ***** on this one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 Therien took a bunch of 20 yr olds to the stanley cup finals...... Ya he did a bad job? With the talent on that team, and the weakness of the Eastern Conference this season, not going to the final would have been a severe disappointment. The Pens met expectations, nothing more, and IMO it's no great reflection on Therrien himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted June 6, 2008 Report Share Posted June 6, 2008 With the talent on that team, and the weakness of the Eastern Conference this season, not going to the final would have been a severe disappointment. The Pens met expectations, nothing more, and IMO it's no great reflection on Therrien himself. I tend to agree actually. Look at the series we played against Boston and then Philly. Julien was the main reason the Bruins almost beat us - he managed to get the team to dig deep & he made some great moves that got him matchups & game plans he wanted. Steven did the same with the flyers - only better and sooner in the series. He knew exactly what his game plan was & made sure his team stuck with it. The only adversity Therrien had all playoffs was in the finals & he didnt respond particularly well. In fairness to Therrien, he didnt have an opportunity (or more appropriately, he didnt have necessity) to prove what he could do as a coach. I still think the report is bogus, but I guess we'll see. Imho, guys like Orpik dont have enough clout to say "either he goes or I go" If crosby or Malkin say it, maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_rudeboy Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Orpik says Penguins coach's presence not a factor "Would it prohibit me from coming back? No, not at all. I'm not here to have someone pat me on the back every day. That's obviously not something he does. He tries to get the best out of you. Those rumors, I don't know where they started. I don't see any quotes in those articles from me. That's mostly speculation, as far as I'm concerned." Source: http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburgh...=rss&feed=8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I felt fairly neutral about Therien. I don' t know that he did anything extremely well, but even with the right talent, it does take coaching to make it anywhere. That said, kind of like how the Jack Adams doesn't automatically go to the winner of the President's Trophy, I don't know that he did an exceptional job. But he did get results and did a good job with a young squad, so I'm not sure he should be fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 I felt fairly neutral about Therien. I don' t know that he did anything extremely well, but even with the right talent, it does take coaching to make it anywhere. That said, kind of like how the Jack Adams doesn't automatically go to the winner of the President's Trophy, I don't know that he did an exceptional job. But he did get results and did a good job with a young squad, so I'm not sure he should be fired. Again, I'd argue that with the talent he had, and considering how weak the Eastern Conference was this season, getting to the finals falls into the category of "employee meets expectations". Nothing to rave about, and certainly nothing to commend Therrien for after watching his team get taken to the woodshed when it mattered most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Again, I'd argue that with the talent he had, and considering how weak the Eastern Conference was this season, getting to the finals falls into the category of "employee meets expectations". Nothing to rave about, and certainly nothing to commend Therrien for after watching his team get taken to the woodshed when it mattered most. The Eastern Conference wasn't that weak (the Pens steamrolled the team that beat first place Montreal in 5 games) and while Pittsburgh had talent, they lacked a lot of experience (which is vital in the playoffs). Now Therrien obviously could have been worse off in what he was given, but we've seen good teams fail in the playoffs time and time again. Pittsburgh did get to the finals, and while any coaching argument leads to the inevitable chicken and egg argument, I do think the coach deserves some credit for that, regardless of what he's been given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Again, I'd argue that with the talent he had, and considering how weak the Eastern Conference was this season, getting to the finals falls into the category of "employee meets expectations". Nothing to rave about, and certainly nothing to commend Therrien for after watching his team get taken to the woodshed when it mattered most. Thats not a valid point. They were sopposed to make the finals, so he didnt really do much? Come on now, He did have to teach these players how to win, They pretty much had the same talent last year, and they collapsed in the playoffs, they had a bit more xp, they gained a few bodies on offense/defense, but that doesnt mean that the finals are a given.. Unfair, Unjust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devs Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 I agree. Really the teams to beat this year were supposed to be Ottawa and maybe the Rangers, so I'm not sure who if anybody would have been picking the Penguins to be the East representitive at the beginning of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 Thats not a valid point. They were sopposed to make the finals, so he didnt really do much? Come on now, He did have to teach these players how to win, They pretty much had the same talent last year, and they collapsed in the playoffs, they had a bit more xp, they gained a few bodies on offense/defense, but that doesnt mean that the finals are a given.. Unfair, Unjust. I disagree. First off, they did not have the same talent this year as last year. Sykora, I believe, was signed this year. They gave away a lot to get Hossa and Dupuis precisely because they wanted to win the Cup. That was their goal. You don't deal away picks and young players at the trade deadline for a rental just to make an early playoff exit. You make those deals to hoist Lord Stanley's mug. Obviously, the finals weren't a given at the start of the playoffs. But we are assessing coach performance in hindsight, with a clear view of how things went done. And there is no denying that the Eastern Conference was the substantially weaker conference in 2007-08. With their array of talent, the Pens were really head and shoulders above the rest of the playoff teams in the conference: Canadiens: Let's not reopen old wounds. Flyers: Only made it to the conference finals because we imploded. Bruins: Couldn't score, would have been destroyed by Crosby & co. Capitals: Would have been entertaining, but the Caps still need a supporting cast for Ovechkin. Devils: Same problem as Boston, plus Brodeur showing his age. The Penguins manhandled Ottawa, New York, and Philly, rarely breaking a sweat in any of those games, never trailing in any series, rarely trailing during any game. Basically, they never had any serious opposition until they met the Wings, who took them to the woodshed in the first two games and showed them what a disciplined, well-coached team can do. So either Therrien was some kind of coaching mastermind who suddenly took mental health leave at the most crucial time of the year, or he was shown up in the finals when his team couldn't rely on their sheer talent and offensive firepower to bulldoze through its adversary. I tend to go with the latter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 So prety much your saying if the penguins coach didnt win, he did a bad job. If the Wings coach didnt end up winning they did a bad job. not to mention they ended the season in 2nd place, they did this pretty much with out hossa, they could have finished in 1st place, but took the team made the decision to throw the last game of the year. Which was the correct choice, seeing as it got them to the finals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_rudeboy Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Therrien's not on the Bubble anymore. Michel Therrien Agrees To Terms On New Three-year Contract http://penguins.nhl.com/team/app/?service=...rticleid=368733 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-1 Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 lol honestly, you think he was ever on the bubble? yeah right, i don't believe nothing coming from toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js2 Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 A 3 year contract? I thought he did a terrible job coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyderherBoyz Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Thats not a valid point. They were sopposed to make the finals, so he didnt really do much? Come on now, He did have to teach these players how to win, They pretty much had the same talent last year, and they collapsed in the playoffs, they had a bit more xp, they gained a few bodies on offense/defense, but that doesnt mean that the finals are a given.. Unfair, Unjust. Yes, and the Habs were supposed to easily beat the Bruins and the Flyers too. Now what does that say about our coaching, or lack thereof ? Failed to meet expectations - bombed out entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnny_canuck_21 Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 A 3 year contract? I thought he did a terrible job coaching. He did a great job, and that is why he got the new contract. He got a basically young team to the Stanley Cup finals in only a couple of years, and it would be unfair to penalize Therrien because the Pens lost the cup to the best team in the NHL. I would like to know why you think he did a terrible job coaching? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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