Flamezgrl Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 links coming http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=241233&...s=topStory_main "Sources tell TSN the Toronto Maple Leafs are trying to encourage Mats Sundin to decide his playing future before July 1. In the past 24 hours the Montreal Canadiens were granted persmission by the Maple Leafs to speak to Sundin's agent J.P. Barry about the possibility of the 37-year-old centre signing in Montreal. "We gave Montreal permission," Leafs general manager Cliff Fletcher flatly told TSN. "Nothing else to say." The Leafs would have to trade Sundin's negotiating rights to the Canadiens to facilitate an early signing. It's too early to say whether or not the two Canadian teams will make that move, as the Canadiens' reluctance to give up any assets for the privilege to get to the Leafs' captain may be based on his willingness to speed up his decision making. At this point, Sundin remains uncertain as to whether he or not he will play at all, so the Canadiens' attempt to get a head-start may turn out to be a fruitless exercise. The Canadiens believed they were close to a deal to acquire Sundin at the trade deadline, but Sundin refused to waive his no-trade to accomodate that deal, or the potential for any other." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRETZKYANDGRAF Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krusher55 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 lol. is it a trap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flamezgrl Posted June 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 This likely means no Mark Streit if we did get Sundin, but... Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Question is, what do the Leafs want for his neg rights? The trade deadline scuttlebutt had Higgins and first-rounder for Sundin straight up. Obviously, the asking price would have to be less now because we would only be getting negotiating rights out of season, not a partial contract during a season. I'd love it if we could swing this deal with just picks and maybe a prospect or two. I really wouldn't like to see Higgins lining up against us six times a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webster82 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 oh man if we get Matts i'm so going to get tickets to the first game in toronto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRETZKYANDGRAF Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Question is, what do the Leafs want for his neg rights? The trade deadline scuttlebutt had Higgins and first-rounder for Sundin straight up. Obviously, the asking price would have to be less now because we would only be getting negotiating rights out of season, not a partial contract during a season. I'd love it if we could swing this deal with just picks and maybe a prospect or two. I really wouldn't like to see Higgins lining up against us six times a year. Our first pick and...Milroy hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romy22 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I don't see a roster player going to TO for his rights...even if a deal is pretty much done with Sundin. Conditional Pick 5th-6th rounder that becomes a 2nd-3rd??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull12 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Oh man get it done Gainey! All I can say is get it done...Sundin is a horse, he would make the Habs so much more better! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krusher55 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Question is, what do the Leafs want for his neg rights? The trade deadline scuttlebutt had Higgins and first-rounder for Sundin straight up. Obviously, the asking price would have to be less now because we would only be getting negotiating rights out of season, not a partial contract during a season. I'd love it if we could swing this deal with just picks and maybe a prospect or two. I really wouldn't like to see Higgins lining up against us six times a year. it just says they gave us permission, not that we acquired his rights... two different things aren't they? Though i have no idea why they'd just give it away... ckac just said we traded our first rounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner_canadian Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Grabovski and a pick?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russianhabsfan Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Apparently we'll be sending something TO's way only if a deal DOES go through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babinator77 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 it just says they gave us permission, not that we acquired his rights... two different things aren't they? Though i have no idea why they'd just give it away... ckac just said we traded our first rounder. exactly. i think we just have permission to talk to his agent which is basically done so gainey can figure out what sundin will be looking for - moving or staying, interested in mtl or no, dollars etc. is ckac right or are they jumping the gun? i wouldn't expect to pay more than our first rounder for his rights. it is the laffs after all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull12 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Habs are apparently dealing the 25th overall pick for Sundin's rights... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 it just says they gave us permission, not that we acquired his rights... two different things aren't they? Though i have no idea why they'd just give it away... Yes, they are two different things, and the reason they'd give us permission is so we can determine through Sundin's agent whether he'd be willing to play in Montreal. If he is willing, then we'd give Toronto compensation to be the sole team able to negotiate with Sundin before July 1. It's in Toronto's best interest to give us permission. If they don't, they're just increasing the likelihood of Sundin going somewhere else without them getting any compensation. ckac just said we traded our first rounder. For what? The neg rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js2 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 it just says they gave us permission, not that we acquired his rights... two different things aren't they? Though i have no idea why they'd just give it away... ckac just said we traded our first rounder. CKAC is saying we traded for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Got-Kovalev-_mtlc Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habtalk Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Question is, what do the Leafs want for his neg rights? The trade deadline scuttlebutt had Higgins and first-rounder for Sundin straight up. Obviously, the asking price would have to be less now because we would only be getting negotiating rights out of season, not a partial contract during a season. I'd love it if we could swing this deal with just picks and maybe a prospect or two. I really wouldn't like to see Higgins lining up against us six times a year. Remember John Leclair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krusher55 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 ckac said we traded our first rounder. Didn't say anything else though. meaning they didn't say it was for sunding or for anybody, just that we've traded it away. Sorry for not specifying, although it is still pertinent for this discussion... Jokinen + sundin ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pitbull12 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 CKAC reported that Montreal traded the 1st round pick... I am listening to hockeybuzz live show and he just reported it was for Sundin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krusher55 Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 Remember John Leclair? higgins is no john leclair. Last i checked john leclair could hit open nets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianMike Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 so it's official??? we got Sundin??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russianhabsfan Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 I don't have audio at work, but I can imagine what it was, hence I'm not really excited about this negotiation affair. Good luck to Bob though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunner_canadian Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 CKAC reported that Montreal traded the 1st round pick... I am listening to hockeybuzz live show and he just reported it was for Sundin Yup, Crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianMike Posted June 20, 2008 Report Share Posted June 20, 2008 higgins is no john leclair. Last i checked john leclair could hit open nets you know I love Higgy, but that made me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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