Nine1One Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 I'm not at all, i recognize what the NCAA has produced rick dipetrio was picked first overall and was amazing before his injuries what i'm saying is that the chl has produced more and i would have a better feeling for kristo had he played in the chl that's all I feel like he is developing his skills (two way forward) in a league that emphasizes that more, from what I understand, Furthermore, I believe he wants an education as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 I feel like he is developing his skills (two way forward) in a league that emphasizes that more, from what I understand, Furthermore, I believe he wants an education as well. The NCAA DIV 1, according to most serious prospect people I've read/talked to is actually a higher quality level than the CHL. Players are much older there. There's no under 18's and many players are 22-24. CHL is a younger league. The names are probably sexier, especially to Canadians but the quality just isn't as good. It's not about which route is better, because if you go the CHL route you get to start playing higher quality hockey much younger than if you wait and go NCAA route. Also, the CHL plays a more pro like schedule, which helps. There's hundreds of NHL draft picks currently playing in the NCAA, including a pretty significant number of 1st and 2nd rounders. To the one who mentioned Dipietro, it's kind of an odd reference when there's been a lot of better players drafted since then who have gone the college route. Off the top of my head in 2006 of the top 5 picks, Erik Johnson, Toews and Kessel all went college. There's stars, it's usually not the route for a legitimate star to take just because by the team he's eligible to go play in the NCAA, they're often already in the NHL so I guess people just think of the name recognition and that's fine, but the NCAA is an older, more advanced league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Bah Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Danny Kristo is going to be a player that will be a pleasant surprise for Habs fans.He's a RW 5'11 and 188lbs,gained 16 lbs of muscle over the last three years,since being drafted from Omaha where he played on a line with Louis Leblanc and Seth Ambroz.Danny is a very talented playmaker,goalscorer he's as speedy and shifty as players come.Look for him to open a lot of people's eyes when he signs and becomes a Pro.Hamilton could reunite Leblanc and Kristo with Andy Conboy or Steve Quailer each of these players still growing and they are 6'4 and 200lbs now.These two players can play sound defensively and Quailer is a speedy,playmaking forward that plays all forward positions and has a great shot.Not only is Kristo good but he will have quality players to excel with.Watch for this guy he's a huckleberry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MkGee Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 The NCAA DIV 1, according to most serious prospect people I've read/talked to is actually a higher quality level than the CHL. Players are much older there. There's no under 18's and many players are 22-24. CHL is a younger league. The names are probably sexier, especially to Canadians but the quality just isn't as good. It's not about which route is better, because if you go the CHL route you get to start playing higher quality hockey much younger than if you wait and go NCAA route. Also, the CHL plays a more pro like schedule, which helps. There's hundreds of NHL draft picks currently playing in the NCAA, including a pretty significant number of 1st and 2nd rounders. To the one who mentioned Dipietro, it's kind of an odd reference when there's been a lot of better players drafted since then who have gone the college route. Off the top of my head in 2006 of the top 5 picks, Erik Johnson, Toews and Kessel all went college. There's stars, it's usually not the route for a legitimate star to take just because by the team he's eligible to go play in the NCAA, they're often already in the NHL so I guess people just think of the name recognition and that's fine, but the NCAA is an older, more advanced league. ya i did say before he got injured though and he went 1st overall just like johnston did, dipietro could of been a top 8 goalie in the league if he hadnt been injured so often luckily hes got a great retirement plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 The NCAA DIV 1, according to most serious prospect people I've read/talked to is actually a higher quality level than the CHL. Players are much older there. There's no under 18's and many players are 22-24. CHL is a younger league. The names are probably sexier, especially to Canadians but the quality just isn't as good. It's not about which route is better, because if you go the CHL route you get to start playing higher quality hockey much younger than if you wait and go NCAA route. Also, the CHL plays a more pro like schedule, which helps. There's hundreds of NHL draft picks currently playing in the NCAA, including a pretty significant number of 1st and 2nd rounders. To the one who mentioned Dipietro, it's kind of an odd reference when there's been a lot of better players drafted since then who have gone the college route. Off the top of my head in 2006 of the top 5 picks, Erik Johnson, Toews and Kessel all went college. There's stars, it's usually not the route for a legitimate star to take just because by the team he's eligible to go play in the NCAA, they're often already in the NHL so I guess people just think of the name recognition and that's fine, but the NCAA is an older, more advanced league. There's a lot of truth to your post. A friend of mine has a 13 year old kid who's got a really good shot. They've spent thousands on this kid, sports program for high school, Finland for hockey camp. The kid is a montrealer, born and raised in the west island. Yet, to give him an even better chance, they want him to play in the NCAA. More and more kids are going that route. They focus more around skill, whereas the CHL believes that kids learn through playing. 2 different approaches, but I believe hockey Canada needs to join the 21st century. NCAA IMO are a step above in terms of moulding young players. They play aproximately 45 games a season and most of the ice time is reserved for training-skating, stick/puck handling, shooting, etc... If there's one thing I can criticize the NCAA, is their lack of playing. Kids coming right from the NCAA and jumping into the NHL aren't use to the long season. But, that's what the AHL should be there for. Our own maxpac coming out of NCAA said the long schedule was hard to get use to. One full season in Hamilton helped him adjust-so the short season isn't much of an issue IMO. Hockey Canada has to do something cos many Canadian kids are going south of the border. Leblanc is another canadian boy who played college hockey. There are many more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 that sounds great and everything but like i said not much talent in hockey in the NCAA not saying nobody good has come out of he NCAA either, its just not talent rich Although it may appear that way, a lot of kids who are playing college hockey(NCAA), often go to Canada after being drafted so they make the jump to the NHL sooner. For all his talk about education, the moment Leblanc was drafted he came back to Canada and played in the Q. I don't think raising the draft age is a bad idea. Gives or forces kids to get an extra year of education before dumping it for professional sports. I think you'd be surprised to find out how many Canadian kids are going the NCAA route. When my friend first mentioned that his kid would be sent to the US to play jr hockey, I thought they were nuts! But after talking to his son and finding out many of his friends have/will/are doing the same thing, I decided to look into it. It's definitely a great program, and parents wanting to give their kid every opportunity to succeed usually go the US college route. No matter how good a kid is or how much promise he shows, there's always room for improvement. And a lot of parents feel by going that route, that they're giving their kids an edge. After researching a bit-I tend to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine1One Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Although it may appear that way, a lot of kids who are playing college hockey(NCAA), often go to Canada after being drafted so they make the jump to the NHL sooner. For all his talk about education, the moment Leblanc was drafted he came back to Canada and played in the Q. I don't think raising the draft age is a bad idea. Gives or forces kids to get an extra year of education before dumping it for professional sports. I think you'd be surprised to find out how many Canadian kids are going the NCAA route. When my friend first mentioned that his kid would be sent to the US to play jr hockey, I thought they were nuts! But after talking to his son and finding out many of his friends have/will/are doing the same thing, I decided to look into it. It's definitely a great program, and parents wanting to give their kid every opportunity to succeed usually go the US college route. No matter how good a kid is or how much promise he shows, there's always room for improvement. And a lot of parents feel by going that route, that they're giving their kids an edge. After researching a bit-I tend to agree. Yes but i believe with harvard, since he completed a year there, he can come back and finish his degree at any point in time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 Yes but i believe with harvard, since he completed a year there, he can come back and finish his degree at any point in time. I think you're right Nine. I just thought it was funny, saw an interview with him where he talked about the importance of education, having something to fall on, blah, blah, blah... Then comes back to Quebec and joined the Montreal Jr's in the "Q". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MkGee Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 my mistake i guess when i looked into it i was humbled, i didnt realize how many guys came from the NCAA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine1One Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 my mistake i guess when i looked into it i was humbled, i didnt realize how many guys came from the NCAA its all good Btw I think Dryden was a ncaa grad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MkGee Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 its all good Btw I think Dryden was a ncaa grad but it seems like more succesfull players come from the chl does it not? i think ill actually start a topic on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine1One Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 but it seems like more succesfull players come from the chl does it not? i think ill actually start a topic on it think about it this way. Most professionals are canadian. the chl is the canadian hockey league. Most go that route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEBIGGESTHABSFAN123 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 think about it this way. Most professionals are canadian. the chl is the canadian hockey league. Most go that route. Ya, if I were going to become a hockey player (I could still choose to) I would go the NCAA route, I want an education as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_Champion Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 What are his chances of becoming a legitimate top-6 winger? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted February 18, 2012 Report Share Posted February 18, 2012 What are his chances of becoming a legitimate top-6 winger? Has he even been signed to an entry-level contract yet? I also wonder if he has what it takes to make the NHL. Part of me thinks he'll be a career AHL player. I'm not sure why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js2 Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Kristo will be staying in North Dakota for next year as per Marc Antoine Godin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Kristo will be staying in North Dakota for next year as per Marc Antoine Godin. Not good for us. At this point, he's almost a write-off and might just end up never signing with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_Champion Posted April 24, 2012 Report Share Posted April 24, 2012 Write off. 2008 NHL draft 1st rounder traded in package for Alex Tanguay 56th overall: Dany Kristo 86th overall, Steve Quailer 116 Jason Missiaen 138 Maxim Trunev 206 Patrick Johnson Fail of a draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatethosebruins Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Write off. 2008 NHL draft 1st rounder traded in package for Alex Tanguay 56th overall: Dany Kristo 86th overall, Steve Quailer 116 Jason Missiaen 138 Maxim Trunev 206 Patrick Johnson Fail of a draft. *facepalm* Well, if we dont have him signed to an EL contract by training camp I figure hes done. Not good for us. At this point, he's almost a write-off and might just end up never signing with us. Does that mean he cant be signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Write off. 2008 NHL draft 1st rounder traded in package for Alex Tanguay 56th overall: Dany Kristo 86th overall, Steve Quailer 116 Jason Missiaen 138 Maxim Trunev 206 Patrick Johnson Fail of a draft. Pretty bad draft for us that year, it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noob616 Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 2007 made up for it. McDonagh, Subban, Pacioretty, Weber, Conboy, we got some good talent there. Unfortunately, we traded away McDonagh but I don't want to get started on that. I don't want to cry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTed3 Posted April 25, 2012 Report Share Posted April 25, 2012 Does that mean he cant be signed? He can still be signed through next season, but because of a loophole, he'd be allowed to walk as a free agent if we don't sign him by next year. It's basically his decision at this point and there's nothing we can do about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 He can still be signed through next season, but because of a loophole, he'd be allowed to walk as a free agent if we don't sign him by next year. It's basically his decision at this point and there's nothing we can do about it. I don't really know that it's a loophole but you're right, he must be signed by mid August next year or he becomes a UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie6898 Posted April 26, 2012 Report Share Posted April 26, 2012 I dont consider him a write off yet but I am a bit worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jennifer_rocket Posted April 27, 2012 Report Share Posted April 27, 2012 I dont consider him a write off yet but I am a bit worried Well. I'm not really worried either way. He's only one player. There was no guarantee when we drafted him that he'd be anything more than a minor league player. At this point, if he wants to continue schooling, good for him. That's important too. If he ends up playing in Montreal in 2014-2015, that'll be nice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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