rbochan Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 clicky clicky $6.25M per. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianMike Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 so where are all the experts that said he would sign with the Redwings next year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlHabsFan Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 The way the money is being tossed at goalies, it seems people think that good ones must be in darn short supply. When they start getting offense player money, its getting crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbochan Posted July 18, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 The way the money is being tossed at goalies, it seems people think that good ones must be in darn short supply. When they start getting offense player money, its getting crazy. $6.25M per is going to seem like nothing six years down the road though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlHabsFan Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Thats what im afraid of. If players dont start toning down their request, there wont be enough money under the cap to field a full team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Wow, $6.25m per year for 5 years for a guy who has played 5 NHL seasons (most behind a very defensively responsible team), featuring 205 NHL games with 7 shutouts, 2.69 gaa and an average of .908 sv% Now, granted he played 76nhl games last year but not really spectacular numbers at 2.64 gaa and .906 sv. I personally still dont see Miller as a "money" goalie - he's good but I dont think he's in the class of Brodeur, Luongo etc....and $6.25m for that long is elite money imho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 The way the money is being tossed at goalies, it seems people think that good ones must be in darn short supply. When they start getting offense player money, its getting crazy. Isn't that the way it should be though? I think a great goalie is better than a great forward. I think Brodeur signing for so far below market value set a precedent and the idea that goalies should be payed less, but I think you'll quickly see that change. Thats what im afraid of. If players dont start toning down their request, there wont be enough money under the cap to field a full team. We'll always be able to ice a full team, although the gap between the high paid and lower played players could get larger and larger. I guess the worst case scenerio for the NHL is the top players take all the money, and as a result mid range players get offered less and less, to the point where they are all offered much more attractive offers in Europe. So you end up with kind of a weird scenerio in hockey, the best players are in the NHL, then the guys who are currently on the 3rd and fourth lines and up going to Europe, and then guys who are currently playing in the minors end up gettting signed to league minimum NHL contracts to fill the roster. With the cap, salaries can't spiral out of control, but some weird stuff could definitely happen. Another possibility is that one free agent class has trouble even getting market value because there is so little money left in the system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael19Cammalleri67 Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 I would have gave him 4million dollars max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Isn't that the way it should be though? I think a great goalie is better than a great forward. I think Brodeur signing for so far below market value set a precedent and the idea that goalies should be payed less, but I think you'll quickly see that change. Graeme, I agree with this - i do think a franchise goalie (luongo, roy, hasek) should be one of, if not the, highest paid players on the team - especially in this day and age when so many play 65+ games. However, I guess my question is: Is Miller in that group? I personally dont see it. Maybe over the next 6 years he'll prove me wrong, but imho he is maybe top 15, not top 3 -5 in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Graeme, I agree with this - i do think a franchise goalie (luongo, roy, hasek) should be one of, if not the, highest paid players on the team - especially in this day and age when so many play 65+ games. However, I guess my question is: Is Miller in that group? I personally dont see it. Maybe over the next 6 years he'll prove me wrong, but imho he is maybe top 15, not top 3 -5 in the game. I don't think 6.5 necessarily puts him in that franchise group though. For a forward, that price gets you someone like Gomez, for a dman, someone like Hamrlik, etc. Even though he'll be one of the highest payed goalies, compared to what he could be making (12 million) and what star players make at other positions, I think you can justify his contract as one for a good goalie. Is Miller worth this? I'm not sure, he isn't coming off a great season, but he is a legitimate #1 goalie, and I think that alone is probably worth 4 or 5 million (many teams don't have one who can stick year to year). This deal isn't a bargain, but I don't think it's that bad either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 I don't think 6.5 necessarily puts him in that franchise group though. For a forward, that price gets you someone like Gomez, for a dman, someone like Hamrlik, etc. Even though he'll be one of the highest payed goalies, compared to what he could be making (12 million) and what star players make at other positions, I think you can justify his contract as one for a good goalie. Is Miller worth this? I'm not sure, he isn't coming off a great season, but he is a legitimate #1 goalie, and I think that alone is probably worth 4 or 5 million (many teams don't have one who can stick year to year). This deal isn't a bargain, but I don't think it's that bad either. Let's be honest here too, Miller and his agent likely put the squeeze on Buffalo management. They knew Buffalo couldn't afford to lose another star/core guy after who they've lost recently, and the backlash from the fans, and they knew Buffalo management heard the Miller to Detroit rumors so they squeezed them for a nice payday. I like Miller, I think he's actually underrated, I think Buffalo has played a very wide open game post lockout, they've had an average D at best and they've relied on him to make big, big saves. I think because of that his SV% doesn't tell the whole story on this guy, he makes a lot of big saves (odd man rushes ect) and he's a total work horse. It's too the point right now in the league where paying a guy 5 million to play 65 games for your team and just be good is a very good deal, and Miller is better then that. Buffalo flat out couldn't let this guy walk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1234 Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 I like this guy....but boy does he need to eat a cheeseburger !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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