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http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/1768...other-team.html

Wow, according to THN Meszaros has signed an offer sheet an will be leaving Ottawa :o

What a blow if this turns out to be true, he's a very talented young defensemen and Ottawa has already lost Redden this season.

It does say he signed an offersheet, you're right, but it doesn't say he's leaving. Ottawa can still match the offersheet and keep him.

If it's over 5 million as the article says, Ottawa will get a nice package of draft picks as compensation, (I THINK it's a 1st, 2nd and 3rd, but it may just be a 1st and 3rd).

We'll see. What Ottawa could do is take the picks, use some excess picks (2nd+3rd) to make a trade for Schneider as a 1 year stop gap and a very good DMan, then use the money they saved in next year's UFA pool to make a pitch for a guy like JayBo.

Should be interesting.

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Teams are going to be handcuffed like crazy with RFA's demanding these huge contracts now.

The salaries are constrained due to the cap, but what I don't like is it favours teams who don't draft well. They can just buy their way out of the bad drafting by using the cap space they have because they don't have their own youngsters to spend it on to take a player from a team who drafts well and can't afford everyone. Offer sheets plus the low UFA age are bad news for teams like Montreal who try to build from within. These teams draft well, develop the player for years, and let him play when he's not particularly useful; and then the crappy teams like Toronto can swoop in and take him.

Some people say the salary cap favours good drafting, and so far it has, but I think that is changing as teams figure out offer sheets and the low UFA age.

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The salaries are constrained due to the cap, but what I don't like is it favours teams who don't draft well. They can just buy their way out of the bad drafting by using the cap space they have because they don't have their own youngsters to spend it on to take a player from a team who drafts well and can't afford everyone. Offer sheets plus the low UFA age are bad news for teams like Montreal who try to build from within. These teams draft well, develop the player for years, and let him play when he's not particularly useful; and then the crappy teams like Toronto can swoop in and take him.

Some people say the salary cap favours good drafting, and so far it has, but I think that is changing as teams figure out offer sheets and the low UFA age.

Well I am of a different mind on this one Graeme. How many offer sheets can a team afford at the expense of possibly losing their draft picks especially if one player is gained for possibly 2 or 3 players lost in the draft. In the long run it will catch up with any GM who tries to build a good chunk of his team through offer sheets.

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Well I am of a different mind on this one Graeme. How many offer sheets can a team afford at the expense of possibly losing their draft picks especially if one player is gained for possibly 2 or 3 players lost in the draft. In the long run it will catch up with any GM who tries to build a good chunk of his team through offer sheets.

I don't think any GM is planning on building a team through offersheets because you simply lose too many assets overall. I think it's a nice weapon to add a guy here or there, or put a cap strapped rival into more trouble. I think the teams who use the offersheet more often then not (excluding special talents) will be the better teams, who are good with cap room to spare. Weak teams probably can't afford to give up elite draft picks, and a good portion of very good teams are probably reasonably tight to the cap... So I don't think it will be a huge epidemic or anything.

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Well I am of a different mind on this one Graeme. How many offer sheets can a team afford at the expense of possibly losing their draft picks especially if one player is gained for possibly 2 or 3 players lost in the draft. In the long run it will catch up with any GM who tries to build a good chunk of his team through offer sheets.

That's a good point. However, if used sparingly enough it's not that big of a deal, as long as you avoid the 6 million plus or whatever that gives away a bunch of firsts. I'd say a first, second, and third is worth a dman of Meszaros's calibre. With drafting there are huge risks, with the offer sheet you know what you are getting, so losing 3 picks for one player isn't as big of a deal since all 3 of those picks likely wouldn't all play in the NHL anyways and you get a good player.

But you're point is valid that it won't happen all the time, but I still think it favours the poor drafting teams.

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That's a good point. However, if used sparingly enough it's not that big of a deal, as long as you avoid the 6 million plus or whatever that gives away a bunch of firsts. I'd say a first, second, and third is worth a dman of Meszaros's calibre. With drafting there are huge risks, with the offer sheet you know what you are getting, so losing 3 picks for one player isn't as big of a deal since all 3 of those picks likely wouldn't all play in the NHL anyways and you get a good player.

But you're point is valid that it won't happen all the time, but I still think it favours the poor drafting teams.

It is a matter of (possible) short term gain for (guaranteed) long term loss (lack of prospects in the system). I just look at Toronto (a poor drafting team) who has sacrificed their future (draft picks) for years for so-called established players. They finally realize that they need to restock the farm and rebuild from within.

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It is a matter of (possible) short term gain for (guaranteed) long term loss (lack of prospects in the system). I just look at Toronto (a poor drafting team) who has sacrificed their future (draft picks) for years for so-called established players. They finally realize that they need to restock the farm and rebuild from within.

Yes but Meszaros is only 22. Toronto traded away their picks for rental players they had for 3 months, maximum 1 or 2 years. Here you'd be getting a young player locked up long term. So you are basically getting someone similar to what you'd get with a draft pick except he's ready now, you don't need to develop him, etc.

That said, I think this report is all made up. The original report was that Tampa's owners threatened an offer sheet if Ottawa didn't trade Meszaros to them. However, they don't have the necessary picks to do so and would need to pull off a trade first. I don't believe an offer sheet was ever signed here.

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Yes but Meszaros is only 22. Toronto traded away their picks for rental players they had for 3 months, maximum 1 or 2 years. Here you'd be getting a young player locked up long term. So you are basically getting someone similar to what you'd get with a draft pick except he's ready now, you don't need to develop him, etc.

That said, I think this report is all made up. The original report was that Tampa's owners threatened an offer sheet if Ottawa didn't trade Meszaros to them. However, they don't have the necessary picks to do so and would need to pull off a trade first. I don't believe an offer sheet was ever signed here.

Haha the Tampa Bay owners are all class if it's true - here's more from THN.

http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/1769...-the-works.html

And we thought that Kevin Lowe kicked up a stink in the old boys club.

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first rounder Always good

Picard Top 4 offensive D

Kuba Nothing special

Tamba wins the trade but not by alot.

I don't think Picard is Top 4 yet, he sure has the potential though

Kuba is not too special, not too solid defensively, but he does have the ability to play an offensive game, plus he has experience.

A first round is always good yes.

For now, I'd say the deal was 50/50

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Tampa wins this trade BIG TIME

lol Tampa doesn't win nothing in this trade, this team is gonna fell off big time within 2 or 3 years, it's gonna be totally impossible for them to keep everybody.

Even with meszaros tampa still has no D, and a very questionable goal tender, what a stupid bunch of new owners to be honest.

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lol Tampa doesn't win nothing in this trade, this team is gonna fell off big time within 2 or 3 years, it's gonna be totally impossible for them to keep everybody.

Even with meszaros tampa still has no D, and a very questionable goal tender, what a stupid bunch of new owners to be honest.

Not 2 mention with all the new faces it will be hard to find there chemistry.

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