AK-1 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 # 84 - Guillaume Latendresse Position: Left Wing Shoots: Left Height: 6' 2" Weight: 222 Born: 24 May '87 Born in: Ste-catherine, QC, Canada Drafted: Montréal's 2nd round choice, 45th overall, in 2005 Acquired: Canadiens' 2nd pick (45th) in 2005 (2nd round) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckoff1 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 this years player on the bubble. hope you have a good year lats, if you struggle this thread will be 5000 pages long and it could be your last year as a hab. personally im on the negative side of the fence, but im still on the fence officially. im going to reserve judgement and wait and see. ive seen lats play hard and play well....its just never sustained, even for a whole game. lats has good SHIFTS. if lats can have good GAMES he will be a valuable player for us. if he continues to just have good SHIFTS, he will have less and less of them and probably be on a different team next year. bonne chance guillaume, drink a red bull before every game or something! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Lats has to bring a Lucic-style game to the ice this season! Lucic impressed me every single shift I watched him in the post-season. Latendresse needs to mirror that work ethic and intensity. Be a monster out there! Smart hit, after smart hit, after forecheck, after driving to the net. I hope he has an excellent season, and let this new thread be a fresh start on the Latendresse discussions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey_gal89 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 See I just want Latendresse to bring HIS game...In his rookie season (06-07) he lead all rookies in hits with 164...that impresses me...If he keeps his game simple and sticks to improving on the fundamentals, the rest will take care of itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckoff1 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 latendresse and lucic play similar games, so lucic's level of intensity should be lats' yardstick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Lats > then Lucic, If no other reason then hes a HAB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Lats > then Lucic, If no other reason then hes a HAB LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruuvimeisseli Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Lats has to bring a Lucic-style game to the ice this season! Lucic impressed me every single shift I watched him in the post-season. Latendresse needs to mirror that work ethic and intensity. Be a monster out there! Smart hit, after smart hit, after forecheck, after driving to the net. I hope he has an excellent season, and let this new thread be a fresh start on the Latendresse discussions! Lucic in the playoffs was amazing. Lats if you do bad say good bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1234 Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Lucic in the playoffs was amazing. Lats if you do bad say good bye. What has Lucic accomplished that Latendresse has not ? Remember, for all Lucic's crash and flash, Lats was on the winning team. Up untill this point is there really any way to say one is better than the other ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 What has Lucic accomplished that Latendresse has not ? Remember, for all Lucic's crash and flash, Lats was on the winning team. Up untill this point is there really any way to say one is better than the other ? If you watch the 2 play, even in the regular season, Lucic looks like he does have more potential, and he is more of a physical presence that's for sure. Both still have a long way to go. As for the fact Latendresse was on the winning team, although it's nice we won, with how small of a role Guillaume played I don't see how it has any barring on who the better player is/was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1234 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 If you watch the 2 play, even in the regular season, Lucic looks like he does have more potential, and he is more of a physical presence that's for sure. Both still have a long way to go, but most scouts/experts do seem to think more highly of Milan then Guillaume. As for the fact Latendresse was on the winning team, although it's nice we won, with how small of a role Guillaume played I don't see how it has any barring on who the better player is/was. The way Lucic is praised you would think he would have been a difference maker, but alas he was not. This is Lucic's stats for last season. Regular Season Stats Season GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S% 2007-2008 77 8 19 27 -2 89 1 0 4 88 9.1 These are Lats' Regular Season Stats Season GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S% 2007-2008 73 16 11 27 -2 41 2 0 3 116 13.8 Not too much of a difference is there ? The only major difference between the two is skating ability. To the eye Lucic may seem the better but the results are pretty much the same. Lats seems to be the better scorer while Lucic has the edge in assists. Unfortunately the stat for hits isn't included, as I am sure Guillaume compares well there too. I still see no reason to state one is better than the other at this point in time, even less to LOL at one of them !!! They are both what they are. Players just at the start of their careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js2 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Just ask Komisarek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames4eva Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 The way Lucic is praised you would think he would have been a difference maker, but alas he was not. This is Lucic's stats for last season. Regular Season Stats Season GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S% 2007-2008 77 8 19 27 -2 89 1 0 4 88 9.1 These are Lats' Regular Season Stats Season GP G A P +/- PIM PP SH GW S S% 2007-2008 73 16 11 27 -2 41 2 0 3 116 13.8 Not too much of a difference is there ? The only major difference between the two is skating ability. To the eye Lucic may seem the better but the results are pretty much the same. Lats seems to be the better scorer while Lucic has the edge in assists. Unfortunately the stat for hits isn't included, as I am sure Guillaume compares well there too. I still see no reason to state one is better than the other at this point in time, even less to LOL at one of them !!! They are both what they are. Players just at the start of their careers. Lats: GP 73 TOI 894:34 Hits 134 Lucic: GP 77 TOI 933:03 Hits 181 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 The way Lucic is praised you would think he would have been a difference maker, but alas he was not. This is Lucic's stats for last season. Hope you're not referring to my portraying Lucic like that, because I was speaking basically on potential and tools, not really on impact or who's the better player. In fact, I think I said something about both players having a long way to go, implying that neither is a difference maker. Not too much of a difference is there ? Again, I never said there was a major difference now, as I wasn't comparing the 2 in the RIGHT now, I was basically saying that right now it appears that Lucic has more potential, and based on what most scouting reports and experts seem to say, that's not totally out there. The only major difference between the two is skating ability. To the eye Lucic may seem the better but the results are pretty much the same. I do disagree that the only major difference is skating, I think Lucic is much more of a physical presence, not just because he has more hits, but like I said just more of a presence... Also fights more and is a better fighter. I still see no reason to state one is better than the other at this point in time, even less to LOL at one of them !!! They are both what they are. Players just at the start of their careers. If you're referring to my LOL, I wasn't LOLing at one being better then the other, I was LOLing at the reasoning the poster gave (The reason he's better is cause he's a Hab) sorry I wasn't clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
puckoff1 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 i think lats has better offensive tools than lucic, better shot and softer hands, plus hes a big boy who can hit too. i think the comparison (at least for me anyway) is the intensity level. lats talent with lucic's level of intensity would be a very valuable player for us. wed all be big fans, thered be no debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electron_mtl Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 i think lats has better offensive tools than lucic, better shot and softer hands, plus hes a big boy who can hit too. i think the comparison (at least for me anyway) is the intensity level. lats talent with lucic's level of intensity would be a very valuable player for us. wed all be big fans, thered be no debate. I also think that Lats has the offensive tools. You're right, about the intensity level. If Lats isn't scoring, he better be banging. At least then, we'll see that he is in the game, and trying. Lucic is always banging, so you know, that he is always in the game, and creating his own chances. If Lats can do that (he is a big kid) The rest will come. I think that is why every body is so high on Max Pac. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlHabsFan Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 People can only say one "has" potential for so long before they start saying he "had" potential. This could be the year the wind changes for him if he doesnt pick his game up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamesgal1 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 What has Lucic accomplished that Latendresse has not ? Remember, for all Lucic's crash and flash, Lats was on the winning team. Up untill this point is there really any way to say one is better than the other ? LOL - Graboski was on the winning team also but had nothing to do with it. I can understand being a habs fan and cheering for you hometown hero but not to acknowledge what a driving force Lucic was for boston in the playoffs in comparison to Lats contribution for the habs is just being unfair. Lucic laid out 35 hits in 7 games. Lats had 15 hits in 8 games. Lucic had 2 goals in 7, Lats had 0 in 8 games. Lucic 5 blocked shots in 7 games and 2 takeaways. Lats 2 Blocked shots in 8 games and 0 takeaways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 The difference, as many people have mentioned, is that Lucic brought more in his rookie season to the Bruins than Gui did in his second (or was it his 3rd?) year to Montreal's lineup. That shows me that Lucic WANTED to make more of an impact and did something about it. Komisarek will tell you how much Lucic worked in the post-season. I just want to see a similar effort from Gui. I don't care if the points take awhile to come... He just needs to show me he's more aware on the ice, and more interested in being a force. Here's to Gui having a great season! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koreysecord1992 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 The difference, as many people have mentioned, is that Lucic brought more in his rookie season to the Bruins than Gui did in his second (or was it his 3rd?) year to Montreal's lineup. That shows me that Lucic WANTED to make more of an impact and did something about it. Komisarek will tell you how much Lucic worked in the post-season. I just want to see a similar effort from Gui. I don't care if the points take awhile to come... He just needs to show me he's more aware on the ice, and more interested in being a force. Here's to Gui having a great season! Seconded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Heres what I see for Lats: I think he will start on a line with Koivu & Tanguay (Baring a sundin signing, then all bets are off). I believe he will KEEP his spot and post career highs in every major category. I believe he will actually score more assists than goals - but probably close numbers like 20-25 of each. I believe that by the end of the season people will be calling him an 'up and coming' power forward. Call me optimistic, but its just a feeling I have. Mind you, I thought Kovalev & Samsonov together would be gold, so sometimes Im wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Mind you, I thought Kovalev & Samsonov together would be gold, so sometimes Im wrong Admitting you are/have been wrong is against the Moderator code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Admitting you are/have been wrong is against the Moderator code. Haha! Hey, if BOB GAINEY can admit he was wrong with regards to Samsonov, so can I ha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1234 Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 The difference, as many people have mentioned, is that Lucic brought more in his rookie season to the Bruins than Gui did in his second (or was it his 3rd?) year to Montreal's lineup. That shows me that Lucic WANTED to make more of an impact and did something about it. Komisarek will tell you how much Lucic worked in the post-season. I just want to see a similar effort from Gui. I don't care if the points take awhile to come... He just needs to show me he's more aware on the ice, and more interested in being a force. Here's to Gui having a great season! Did Lucic bring more ? The stats don't show that. How do you know Gui isn't putting in the same amount of effort ? How do you know Latendresse doesn't want to make more of an impact ? People are making all sorts of statements that are based on presumptions. What Lucic did during the playoffs would pale in comparison to what Lats could do if he had the same skating ability IMHO. When a player has a deficiancy in skating you will not see him hit everything in sight, and be the first guy in on the forecheck, or the first guy back on the backcheck. That is the difference between Lucic and Latendresse. Not effort or desire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flames4eva Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 At this stage in Lats career I'd be happy seeing him play a role that includes an increase in his hitting and a tougher approach to opposing players. With his frame he would be more effective driving the net more often. An improvement in his defensive game is a must. That would be satisfactory by me for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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