Johnny_rudeboy Posted January 17, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Actually 49 pts has them tied for 5th in the Western Conference. With just under 40 games left to play it is too early to tell the final outcome. I think Sundin will settle in and now that Luongo is back things will start turning around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Every time the Canucks lose, I cheer now. Only because it's so satisfying to see any team with Sundin on it lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Every time the Canucks lose, I cheer now. Only because it's so satisfying to see any team with Sundin on it lose. I have Luongo in my pool, so I don't get that benefit, nor do I really care about Sundin as I have no hate towards him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareyPrice31 Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Every time the Canucks lose, I cheer now. Only because it's so satisfying to see any team with Sundin on it lose. I got to witness the Canucks losing last night at GM place (my Dad got free centre ice tickets) ahh it was good seeing Sundin take a penalty that made Phoenix get a goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 I have Luongo in my pool, so I don't get that benefit, nor do I really care about Sundin as I have no hate towards him. Well, you're outta luck, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Every time the Canucks lose, I cheer now. Only because it's so satisfying to see any team with Sundin on it lose. Agreed. And the thing is, had he just signed with Vancouver in July I would have nothing against him. Sure, I'd be a little upset he picked them over us, but our offer didn't even come close to theirs and let's face it: if you're making $7 and hour and get a job offer for $10 an hour or you're making $35 an hour and get a job offer for $50 an hour: are you not going to take it? And even if it wasn't the money issue, he owes nothing to us: he can play where he wants. However, the constant drama and indecision and all that just really bugged me, and now I hope he doesn't make the playoffs and retires without ever coming close to a cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innis_Mor Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 With the loss last night (in SO) to Columbus, the Canucks have now been passed by the Blue Jackets on points %. Vancouver stands 10th in that position stat, out of the play-offs. I suppose they'll be hoping Luongo finds his game before too long, otherwise maybe Sundin is up for trade at the deadline. Q: does he have a NTC in his contract? Oh, sorry. Scratch that. I just remembered Sundin is fervently against being a rental player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innis_Mor Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Actually 49 pts has them tied for 5th in the Western Conference.Where teams have not all played the same number of games, points % (used to be win %) is the relevant relative positional stat. That's why baseball uses it. Takes out conjecturing on what might happen on "games in hand", etc. If the NHL regular season had to end suddenly with no more games played, and the play-offs set to start immediately, the NHL would have no alternative but to use points %; it would be the fairest (only?) assessment of success of teams' play to that point in the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 I do not find this Luongo sucking funny whatsoever, cmon Louy, wheres that Vezina candidate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innis_Mor Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 I do not find this Luongo sucking funny whatsoever, cmon Louy, wheres that Vezina candidate?Hitchcock says give him 30 days / 8 games: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Canucks+d...5634/story.html (yeesh, and they gotta play the Sharks tomorrow in the "sorry, you lose!!" Shark Tank. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Hitchcock says give him 30 days / 8 games: http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Canucks+d...5634/story.html (yeesh, and they gotta play the Sharks tomorrow in the "sorry, you lose!!" Shark Tank. ) Its a shame fantasy sports do not wait 30 days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-1 Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 It doesn't look like Sundin made a lot of friends on that team, they're 1-4-1 with him in the lineup and you can assume that it's going to be 1-5-1 after tonight lol. That would be the funniest thing if they didn't make the playoffs, i pray for that to happen, even though i like Luongo, screw the rest of that team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Yes, it would be a monumental disaster (And a funny one at that) for Vancouver to miss the post-season. I think we're well ahead of ourselves discussing that currently, but... Boy oh boy, would that be something? The thing people never realized was that Mats Sundin wasn't going to take a team on his back this early into his comeback and carry them to the promised land. In Montreal he would have been sheltered by our depth. Depth I believed Vancouver had too, but apparently they are slumping like crazy right now. We shall see how everytin goes for the. I suppose it's possible that Luongo is still injured? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Agreed. And the thing is, had he just signed with Vancouver in July I would have nothing against him. Sure, I'd be a little upset he picked them over us, but our offer didn't even come close to theirs and let's face it: if you're making $7 and hour and get a job offer for $10 an hour or you're making $35 an hour and get a job offer for $50 an hour: are you not going to take it? And even if it wasn't the money issue, he owes nothing to us: he can play where he wants. However, the constant drama and indecision and all that just really bugged me, and now I hope he doesn't make the playoffs and retires without ever coming close to a cup. Yeah, I'd have had no animosity if he'd just taken the money (Vancouver) in July, but all the hand-wringing, drama, missed 'soft' deadlines, and politician speak just soured me on him permanently. The NHL really has to do something and institute some sort of hard deadline for UFA players to sign or else forfeit the current season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 Yeah, I'd have had no animosity if he'd just taken the money (Vancouver) in July, but all the hand-wringing, drama, missed 'soft' deadlines, and politician speak just soured me on him permanently. The NHL really has to do something and institute some sort of hard deadline for UFA players to sign or else forfeit the current season. The problem is you need to do it in a way that doesn't exclude guys who couldn't get a deal during the summer (there's usually 2 or 3 signed during the year). The method I think may work is that after a certain date no player may sign for more than 1 million per season. However, I doubt the NHLPA will agree to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted January 20, 2009 Report Share Posted January 20, 2009 The problem is you need to do it in a way that doesn't exclude guys who couldn't get a deal during the summer (there's usually 2 or 3 signed during the year). The method I think may work is that after a certain date no player may sign for more than 1 million per season. However, I doubt the NHLPA will agree to this. Yeah, I like that idea but also doubt the PA would be on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_rudeboy Posted January 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Canucks winless in seven straight with Sundin http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=406743 I wonder how Matts is feeling these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekHockeyCoach Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 Canucks winless in seven straight with Sundin http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=406743 I wonder how Matts is feeling these days. I'll tell you how he's feeling, he's laughing all the way to the bank. When he signed with Vancouver, it was all about the money. If he was serious at wanting to win a cup he would have signed with a number of other teams for the league minimum. That's what true passionate hockey players do when they want to win a cup at the end of their career. I hope Sundin and his team lose 25 in a row because I've lost all respect for players like him that are only about money. Before anyone comments on this, just remember that he had a choice of going to a number of true legitimate cup contenders and he clearly chose the money. Vancouver was never a contender for the cup and as we all know, one star player won't make the difference. How many Stanley cups has Washington or Pittsburgh won and they clearly have best single players in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 I'll tell you how he's feeling, he's laughing all the way to the bank. When he signed with Vancouver, it was all about the money. If he was serious at wanting to win a cup he would have signed with a number of other teams for the league minimum. That's what true passionate hockey players do that when they want to win a cup at the end of their career. I hope Sundin and his team lose 25 in a row because I've lost all respect for players like him that are only about money. Before anyone comments on this, just remember that he had a choice of going to a number of true legitimate cup contenders and he clearly chose the money. Vancouver was never a contender for the cup and as we all know, one star player won't make the difference. How many Stanley cups has Washington or Pittsburgh won and they clearly have best single players in the game. Give it to 'em Greek! I, too, am quite content with Vancouver's recent slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innis_Mor Posted January 29, 2009 Report Share Posted January 29, 2009 And a G&M Article: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...ory/GlobeSports I do start to wonder whether Alain Vigneault's days are numbered. But he has a couple of years to run on this contract renewal, doesn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckGalInVic Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 With the loss last night (in SO) to Columbus, the Canucks have now been passed by the Blue Jackets on points %. Vancouver stands 10th in that position stat, out of the play-offs. I suppose they'll be hoping Luongo finds his game before too long, otherwise maybe Sundin is up for trade at the deadline. Q: does he have a NTC in his contract? Oh, sorry. Scratch that. I just remembered Sundin is fervently against being a rental player. NMC, I think. Not that Vancouver could get anything for him at this point... And a G&M Article: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...ory/GlobeSports I do start to wonder whether Alain Vigneault's days are numbered. But he has a couple of years to run on this contract renewal, doesn't he? Not sure how long AV has on his contract, but there are a LOT of people who want him gone - apparently just about everyone in BC except Gillis and the Aquilini's (Canucks' owners). I do not find this Luongo sucking funny whatsoever, cmon Louy, wheres that Vezina candidate? He returned against San Jose when he almost shut them out...almost. Lu's back, the rest of the team needs to show up now. It's like the team believed all the 13 year-olds on the message boards who said Sundin would be the team's savior (instead of just a complimentary player) and decided they didn't need to try anymore. The players just don't have their heads in the game. It's pretty bad when you can list Taylor Pyatt as one of the best players on the ice (aside from Luongo) on any given night. The team needs to start playing for each other again, and stop relying on Sundin. Hopefully he settles into being a good addition, but he won't as long as the team expects him to 'save' them every night. The team needs to focus on playing as a team again and let Sundin worry about adjusting to their game instead of everyone trying to adjust to his game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
77bourque77 Posted January 31, 2009 Report Share Posted January 31, 2009 I'll tell you how he's feeling, he's laughing all the way to the bank. When he signed with Vancouver, it was all about the money. If he was serious at wanting to win a cup he would have signed with a number of other teams for the league minimum. That's what true passionate hockey players do when they want to win a cup at the end of their career. I hope Sundin and his team lose 25 in a row because I've lost all respect for players like him that are only about money. Before anyone comments on this, just remember that he had a choice of going to a number of true legitimate cup contenders and he clearly chose the money. Vancouver was never a contender for the cup and as we all know, one star player won't make the difference. How many Stanley cups has Washington or Pittsburgh won and they clearly have best single players in the game. i dont want that to happen....i have roberto in my hockey pool lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ForeverGuyLafleur Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 Nothing to shut down the critics in Vancouver at all tonight: 8th straight loss and, boy, things look ugly over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phatz Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 It looks like the best signings BG makes are the one's he doesn't make Sundin would have been a good addition at the start of the year but now he's just a disruption to the chemistry of a team It looks good on him, going from a TEAM that missed the PO's in the East to one that might miss the PO's in the WEST .........all for $ 5 million Vancouver currently in 7th spot with 49 pts The teams below them have 2 to 3 games in hand LMAO...... That big Swedish pussy was a huge mistake. 5 mil for a guy who for the first half of the season was playing online poker. Matt likes to start his golfing early and with 9 st8 home loses looks like they will be hitting the links early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js2 Posted February 1, 2009 Report Share Posted February 1, 2009 They're now sitting in 11th place. I find it hilarious that Sundin has been nothing but a distraction for them since he only has 3 points in 9 games and is a -6. Congrats on overpaying a guy that's only in it for the money and doesn't care about hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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