Scott92 Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Blue Jackets' Peca suspended indefinitely NEW YORK – Columbus Blue Jackets forward Michael Peca has been automatically suspended per Rule 41, Physical Abuse of Officials, Category 2. Peca was assesed a game misconduct penalty at 5:21 of the second period of NHL Game #15 Friday night at Dallas. Peca has appealed the suspension but will remain suspended pending a hearing to be scheduled next week. Click link to view article. I still have yet to see the incident, but it must have been a big deal to create this much of a buzz around the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareyPrice31 Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 I haven't seen it either, did he punch the ref or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1234 Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 On the CBC they said he grabbed the refs arm to debate a non call on a slew foot. They feel the refs overstated the event a bit and the manditory 10 game suspension for a level 2 abuse of a ref will be reduced. They however had no video of it so I cannot comment on the event itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareyPrice31 Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 On the CBC they said he grabbed the refs arm to debate a non call on a slew foot. They feel the refs overstated the event a bit and the manditory 10 game suspension for a level 2 abuse of a ref will be reduced. They however had no video of it so I cannot comment on the event itself. Suspension for grabbing the referee's arm? I guess they have zero tolerance for intentional physical contact with the ref. I'll wait for the video before I say something like 'too strict' bla bla bla.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js2 Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Suspension for grabbing the referee's arm? I guess they have zero tolerance for intentional physical contact with the ref. I'll wait for the video before I say something like 'too strict' bla bla bla.. A couple years ago Markov got a 3-game suspension for touching the refs sweater after a game. It was after a horrible one-sided called game by the refs and Markov was trying to tell him he wasn't supposed to be biased or something and bam, suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1234 Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 They view any kind of contact with a referee vey seriously, and they need too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted October 12, 2008 Report Share Posted October 12, 2008 Suspension for grabbing the referee's arm? I guess they have zero tolerance for intentional physical contact with the ref. I'll wait for the video before I say something like 'too strict' bla bla bla.. and that's how it should be. Obviously punching the ref or something is a very serious offense (I think the only NHL lifetime suspension was for punching out a ref). But even non harmful contact should not be tolerated. My guess is he'll get the 10 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareyPrice31 Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 and that's how it should be. Obviously punching the ref or something is a very serious offense (I think the only NHL lifetime suspension was for punching out a ref). But even non harmful contact should not be tolerated. My guess is he'll get the 10 games. I guess so, you don't know what the player will do next. One second he could just be slightly touching the ref, then next it's. BAM.. ref punched in the face. (even though most players are respectful enough not to do that, there's always that one who does something bad.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbochan Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Not the greatest camera work. At about 1:07, Peca gets slew-footed by Morrow while fighting off a 5 on 3. At about the 1:15 mark, it looks like Peca grabbed the pussified ref's arm so he could get in front of him to plead his case. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1234 Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Not the greatest camera work. At about 1:07, Peca gets slew-footed by Morrow while fighting off a 5 on 3. At about the 1:15 mark, it looks like Peca grabbed the pussified ref's arm so he could get in front of him to plead his case. That's it. There is NO reason ever to touch a ref, NONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js2 Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 lol 10 games for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 There is NO reason ever to touch a ref, NONE. Agreed. What rule makes more sense: - no intentional contact with ref, zero tolerance for breaking this rule - players are allowed to make physical contact with referees as long as said contact does not cause bodily harm. I think it makes much more sense to outlaw and come down hard on any intentional contact with referee, even if it doesn't constitute an attack, it's a slippery slope otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dintrox12 Posted October 13, 2008 Report Share Posted October 13, 2008 Agree with Graeme all contact barred... otherwise we start analyzing for intent etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbochan Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 So Peca was defending a 5 on 3 and got slew-footed by Morrow and it wasn't called. Because of that, Dallas scored their first goal of the season and the place went absolutely nuts, as one can tell from the vid. The ref couldn't hear the other ref next to him, much less Peca trying to get his attention from behind him, so Peca grabbed his arm to get his attention. It comes down to this: The entire situation is ridiculous. It just epitomizes that NHL officiating is the worst in any sport, anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 So Peca was defending a 5 on 3 and got slew-footed by Morrow and it wasn't called. Because of that, Dallas scored their first goal of the season and the place went absolutely nuts, as one can tell from the vid. The ref couldn't hear the other ref next to him, much less Peca trying to get his attention from behind him, so Peca grabbed his arm to get his attention. It comes down to this: The entire situation is ridiculous. It just epitomizes that NHL officiating is the worst in any sport, anywhere. I don't think anyone is saying the actual action was that bad, but it's known that players often get upset with referees, who are rarely in as good shape or as protected as players, and I think not allowing any contact is a good rule. If you don't enforce a rule, it doesn't really exist - so if you want to ban contact from refs (which I do), you need to punish him for this. 10 games seems a little steep for it I'll admit, but he deserves something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I understand the principal of the rule. But if you watch that video, Its a total joke Id be very upset if it was one of our players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefooligan5 Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 I understand the principal of the rule. But if you watch that video, Its a total joke Id be very upset if it was one of our players ANd you would also know not to touch a referee lest you want a similar punishment. Action (hopefully) deterred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted October 15, 2008 Report Share Posted October 15, 2008 Id be very upset if it was one of our players I'd be upset at losing the player, but I'd accept it as deserved punishment. When Markov was suspended for touching a ref, I wasn't happy that we lost Markov, but I knew it was the correct call. I never want to see a Hab suspended, but that doesn't mean that they don't ever deserve it. Fans being upset isn't a factor here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dintrox12 Posted October 17, 2008 Report Share Posted October 17, 2008 Peca's suspension was reduced from 10 games to 5.. TSN report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1234 Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 The NHL at least tried to get it right here. They reduced it to try and be fair to Peca, who I am sure had not intended any malice, but at the same time set a bar to let the players know that the officials will be protected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeafHater Posted October 18, 2008 Report Share Posted October 18, 2008 yeah i also agree that its a good rule to have. One it sort of sets the players and refs apart from one another on a professional level (even though i'm sure some refs and players are a little too much on friendly terms with each other), and two it keeps things from escalating. but i mean when you're trying to get someones attention its a reflex to go out and touch or grab their arm to get their attention. i think the decision was a good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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