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Yes, I heard them discuss it.

Something about the IOC ( Int olympci Committee ) telling Canada they cannot use a Maple Leaf on their jersey :rolleyes:

do you remember why?... of course the Canadians have worn the Maple Leaf before... and they unveiled their new uniforms back in April for the World Championship, so what's go on in the six months since?
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Not really

It was Al Strachan bringing the topic up

I find him irritating . It's always " A player told me this " ...blah blah :P

When Starchan mentioned that the Tampa Bay owqner went into the dressing room and started drawin ng PP strategies Milbury asked him who told you that ........." A Player " .......Milbury wnet nuts :P

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Not really

It was Al Strachan bringing the topic up

I find him irritating . It's always " A player told me this " ...blah blah :P

When Starchan mentioned that the Tampa Bay owqner went into the dressing room and started drawin ng PP strategies Milbury asked him who told you that ........." A Player " .......Milbury wnet nuts :P

unfortunately for the fans, that's the way journalism works... if you want people to talk to you, you can't be giving them up as your sources...

and if that TB incident happened, why didn't Barry Melrose go ballistic, it would have been his way out of that nut house :lol:

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Seriously? No maple leaf? I'm already fuming angry at the Vancouver Olympics in general (from their logo to telling the Cirque du Soleil how to do it and ultimately losing them, the the regular outfits our athletes will be wearing). Oh my god, I'm gonna be sick if this is true...

But then...what's this photo?

img_team_canada_hockey_jersey_f.jpg

A red version of the awesome black one.

And while I'm at it, I hate Team Canada's newer hockey logo. (The one on the shoulders). The Leaf and Canada one was always the best...

canada_2006_jersey_black_big.jpg

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Seriously? No maple leaf? I'm already fuming angry at the Vancouver Olympics in general (from their logo to telling the Cirque du Soleil how to do it and ultimately losing them, the the regular outfits our athletes will be wearing). Oh my god, I'm gonna be sick if this is true...

But then...what's this photo?

img_team_canada_hockey_jersey_f.jpg

A red version of the awesome black one.

And while I'm at it, I hate Team Canada's newer hockey logo. (The one on the shoulders). The Leaf and Canada one was always the best...

canada_2006_jersey_black_big.jpg

man I do wish they would get rid of that darn black. This past year the world championships were in halifax and for one game Canada wore 1970's throwbacks (all white with half a big red leaf on the front) and they were absolutely beautiful.

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I was looking around and this is all I could find: *This might not be a good source, but the only thing available*

http://thenhlarena.com/index.php?showtopic=61650

From what I interpreted (and I only started listening part way through so I'm not sure if I misunderstood it) they seemed to be talking about something to do with the logo is too commercial, so they wouldn't be allowed to wear it...but the reason it has turned commercial is because it's on our flag, thus it's the easiest way for companies etc to identify themselves as Canadian...

I think it would be a bit funny if Team Canada boycotted the Canadian Olympics...I would guess that it would be precedent setting, if nothing else.

How is it commercial? It's on our flag.

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Seriously? No maple leaf? I'm already fuming angry at the Vancouver Olympics in general (from their logo to telling the Cirque du Soleil how to do it and ultimately losing them, the the regular outfits our athletes will be wearing). Oh my god, I'm gonna be sick if this is true...

But then...what's this photo?

that's an old jersey... not the jersey they wore at the World Championship and were planning to wear at the Olympics...

I think I might know what the problem is -- both on what we're hearing and what the IOC is thinking...

first, I think there's been some mis-reporting by, or mis-statements in, the media...

I think if the IOC does have a problem with the Team Canada jersey and its commercial aspects, it is not a problem with a maple leaf being on the jersey because the 'maple leaf' as a national symbol does NOT appear on the jersey... both the large crest on the front of the jersey and the smaller 'heritage logo' on the sleeves are technically not national symbols (per se) but logos of 'Hockey Canada', a not-for-profit organization...

but they had the same large logo in Turin, 2006, so it's still a big 'HUH?!!!'...

if Hockey Canada is smart, they will kick up a small fuss, then give in to the IOC ;) , and come out with yet another set of jerseys for us to buy...

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Seriously? No maple leaf? I'm already fuming angry at the Vancouver Olympics in general (from their logo to telling the Cirque du Soleil how to do it and ultimately losing them, the the regular outfits our athletes will be wearing). Oh my god, I'm gonna be sick if this is true...

But then...what's this photo?

that's an old jersey... not the jersey they wore at the World Championship and were planning to wear at the Olympics...

I think I might know what the problem is -- both on what we're hearing and what the IOC is thinking...

first, I think there's been some mis-reporting by, or mis-statements in, the media...

I think if the IOC does have a problem with the Team Canada jersey and its commercial aspects, it is not a problem with a maple leaf being on the jersey because the 'maple leaf' as a national symbol does NOT appear on the jersey... both the large crest on the front of the jersey and the smaller 'heritage logo' on the sleeves are technically not national symbols (per se) but logos of 'Hockey Canada', a not-for-profit organization...

but they had the same large logo in Turin, 2006, so it's still a big 'HUH?!!!'...

if Hockey Canada is smart, they will kick up a small fuss, then give in to the IOC ;) , and come out with yet another set of jerseys for us to buy...

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http://www.tsn.ca/canadian_hockey/story/?i...=headlines_main

Team Canada may be forced to play without its familiar Maple Leaf logo at the 2010 Vancouver Olympics, the victim of an International Olympic Committee rule that is only now being enforced.

The IOC regulation forbids sport federations from displaying their logos on uniforms at the Olympics, which includes Hockey Canada's trademark Maple Leaf with a hockey player. Hockey Canada says it has been able to get around the rule in the past by having the Canadian Olympic Committee sign an exemption from Games uniform regulations.

But the COC says times have changed. The IOC strictly enforced its rules at the recent Beijing Games - notably with the Brazilian and Argentine soccer teams - and is expected to do the same in Vancouver.

"In the past three Winter Games, this wasn't the same issue that it is now," said Chris Rudge, the COC's chief executive officer. "In those Games, the IOC turned a blind eye to its own rules. That's no longer the case - they made that very clear going into Beijing.

"It was a test case in Beijing with the soccer teams and it was very clear from the IOC that the rules now are the rules and they're not turning a blind eye to exemptions."

That's not good enough for Hockey Canada, which is unhappy at the COC stance.

"I can't believe that they're taking a chunk of history, especially when we're hosting it in our country," said Hockey Canada president Bob Nicholson. "They're putting Team Canada at a disadvantage in its own country."

Rudge, however, says such hand-wringing is premature as the IOC has yet to deliver its final uniform specification details. And he says it's a matter to be resolved between the IOC and International Ice Hockey Federation.

A look at the Olympic Charter appears to back that notion. According to bylaw 1.6 of rule 51: "In case of special rules adopted by an international sports federation, exceptions to the rules mentioned above may be approved the IOC Executive Board."

The IOC did not respond to requests for further clarification while an IIHF spokesman would only say that the "situation is sensitive" and that it hoped to "solve this issue to everyone's satisfaction."

Nicholson, however, believes the COC's refusal to sign the same form as in past Games effectively kills any chance of Hockey Canada being able to use its logo on jerseys at the 2010 Games.

"Without that signature, it's showing that Canada doesn't support it so the IOC's certainly not going to," he said.

The issue is particularly important for Hockey Canada because it generates significant revenue through jersey sales and other sponsorships tied to the logo. No other Canadian sports federation would be impacted as strongly as it is by the rule.

"They're going to disrupt a huge part of our business," said Nicholson. "We give all of that money back to kids. We have not raised registrations for Hockey Canada for four or five years.

"And now because of this, that decision might happen."

Other Canadian sports federations are affected by the rules in different ways.

Alpine Canada, for instance, says it was told by the COC that it will likely have to use red, white and black skinsuits at the 2010 Olympic competition in Whistler rather than the traditional yellow it has worn since the days of the Crazy Canucks.

Aside from the marketing issues, that kind of change would require new suits that would come at a cost of roughly $75,000.

"I don't think the COC really realized it when they came up with some of their guidelines, but our suit is a very specialized piece of equipment - as important as our skis or our skiboots," Alpine Canada president Gary Allan said in a recent interview. "The material is proprietary and the design of the suit is proprietary.

"If the COC wanted to go out and recreate a special suit for us - using our design team and the company in Switzerland that actually manufactures the suits for Spyder - we'd be open and receptive to having them do that."

With every federation having its own interests, the COC doesn't want to risk opening a Pandora's Box by making extraordinary efforts for one body over another.

"I'm not sure why we would treat one of our federations different from all of the other federations in a unique situation like this," said Rudge. "That would seem to be unfair to everyone else in sport."

But Nicholson believes Hockey Canada's case is different.

No Canadian sports federation's logo is more recognizable and no jersey more apart of the program. Canadian hockey teams have won one Olympic men's gold, two Olympic women's gold and numerous world championships at all other levels while wearing the logo.

"I think it's the most important piece of apparel that a player puts on," said Nicholson.

Rudge, on the other hand, doesn't buy it.

"At the end of the day, I think it's about getting the best team on the ice and doing everything we can to support that team," he said. "I can't imagine there's a hockey player in this country who wouldn't be proud to wear his country's Olympic jersey."

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That is better clarification at least. They don't want the Hockey Canada "brand" logo on our sweaters. So then why doesn't Team Canada just put the red leaf with CANADA on it (like the old black one) and call it a day? (Like I said before, I don't like that Hockey Canada logo... and I agree, it is very corporate). Canada's Olympic Hockey team has used many different sweaters before. It's really not that much of a big deal. The problem is, of course, that Hockey Canada IS basically Team Canda. So they've gone and dug themselves into a mess...at the same time, though, they can still sell the sweaters either way, so long as the money is going in the right place (namely Canada's national hockey programs/future Olympic teams).

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That's the thing. The rule has always been there, but the IOC never really clamped down on it. However, lately they have been starting to clean up their act and did warn countries for the summer Olympics about similar things. It's not a big deal. They're not saying we can't use the maple leaf. They're saying we can't use Hockey Canada's logo. It makes sense. The players are representing their country, Canada, not the hockey program which has definitely become a "brand". So ya, no big deal.

Flag, Canada, slap it on a red sweater and call it a day. Team Canada can use the Hockey Canada one during regular tournaments (IIHF, etc).

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  • 3 months later...

http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Olympics/News/20...8396191-cp.html

Canadian Olympic Committee to submit modified Hockey Canada logo

By THE CANADIAN PRESS

TORONTO - The Canadian Olympic hockey jersey controversy could be nearing an end.

The Canadian Olympic Committee said Saturday it will seek approval to use a modified Hockey Canada jersey at the 2010 Vancouver Games.

Saturday's announcement comes a day after International Olympic Committee president Jacques Rogge told The Canadian Press that, "I think we can find a solution in some form."

Rogge's words were interpreted as the IOC prodding Hockey Canada and the COC to agree on an acceptable logo.

Hockey Canada has been seeking a way around an IOC rule preventing national sports federations from using their logos on Olympic uniforms.

"We are looking forward to working with the COC to resolve this situation to the satisfaction of both organizations," said Bob Nicholson, president of Hockey Canada.

One possibility is a reworked crest on the front of the uniform, and a smaller version of the current logo appearing on the sleeve.

Another idea floated by the COC was use of the Canadian jerseys from the 1972 Summit Series.

"From the COC's perspective, this would present a very interesting option to pursue with Hockey Canada in the event the IOC does not approve the current submission," the COC said in a statement Saturday.

Rogge added Friday that he understands the importance of tradition regarding the Hockey Canada logo, which has been used for 14 years and at the last three Olympics.

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