jl-1 Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 I was looking at the bottom in stats amongst starting goaltenders and I was shocked to see the following: Marty Turco (DAL) 4.34 GAA, .837 Sv% Martin Biron (PHI) 3.58 GAA, .882 Sv% Jose Theodore (WAS) 3.44 GAA, .877 Sv% Kari Lehtonen (ATL) 3.44 GAA, .903 Sv% Pascal Leclaire (CBJ) 3.41 GAA, .885 Sv% Martin Gerber (OTT) 3.39 GAA, .891 Sv% Chris Osgood (DET) 3.38 GAA, .879 Sv% Roberto Luongo (VAN) 2.97 GAA, .901 Sv% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kravchenko Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Turco has been especially bad. I almost wonder if there will be a trade there if he does not turn it around by the end of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl-1 Posted November 2, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 I bet both Washington and Huet wish they would have agreed to a deal as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruuvimeisseli Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 I guess Price or Lunqvist get the Vezina this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franck5890 Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 The one that shocks me the most is Marty Turco, definitely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CareyPrice31 Posted November 2, 2008 Report Share Posted November 2, 2008 Luongo's stats don't shock me at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl-1 Posted November 3, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2008 Luongo's stats don't shock me at all. Considering the defense in front of him, I'm extremely surprised to see his stats so high... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 I was looking at the bottom in stats amongst starting goaltenders and I was shocked to see the following: Marty Turco (DAL) 4.34 GAA, .837 Sv% Martin Biron (PHI) 3.58 GAA, .882 Sv% Jose Theodore (WAS) 3.44 GAA, .877 Sv% Kari Lehtonen (ATL) 3.44 GAA, .903 Sv% Pascal Leclaire (CBJ) 3.41 GAA, .885 Sv% Martin Gerber (OTT) 3.39 GAA, .891 Sv% Chris Osgood (DET) 3.38 GAA, .879 Sv% Roberto Luongo (VAN) 2.97 GAA, .901 Sv% Some of these don't surprise me in the least like: Theo-1 bounce back season after so many "so-so" ones, Gerber- never saw him as a #1 always had problems with the post season, Osgood-personally, I find him very overrated, and Biron- well, he's always been like this, hot and cold. Turco on the other hand, has me baffled. I think the state of the stars, has a few of their players not playing up to par. They acquired a few players in the off season who is tearing the team apart. Luongo, I was hoping he'd bounce back after last season, but he's not getting the help from his team. Can't really blame him for them not winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtl1010 Posted November 4, 2008 Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 I think Turco will be back to his usual self as the season rolls on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl-1 Posted November 4, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2008 Some of these don't surprise me in the least like: Theo-1 bounce back season after so many "so-so" ones, Gerber- never saw him as a #1 always had problems with the post season, Osgood-personally, I find him very overrated, and Biron- well, he's always been like this, hot and cold. Turco on the other hand, has me baffled. I think the state of the stars, has a few of their players not playing up to par. They acquired a few players in the off season who is tearing the team apart. Luongo, I was hoping he'd bounce back after last season, but he's not getting the help from his team. Can't really blame him for them not winning. I haven't watched Turco play but from what I hear, it's not pretty right now. As for Luongo though, I do see him and it's far from the Luongo who was amongst the top goalies in the NHL, let alone in Canada. And it all started last year, but a lot was said that it was due to key injuries to many defensemen. Everyone thought that scoring goals would be the biggest problem in Vancouver this year but they have one of the best offense in the entire NHL so far ( ). I was expecting a rebound season for him as when you have Ohlund, Salo, Bieksa, Mitchell, O'Brien and Edler as a defensive corp, it amongst the best in the league. From what I've observed so far, it's not the offense, not the defense, but rather the Captain who's not pulling his weight, not justifying his high salary so far. But Luongo is Luongo and I still have faith that he can return to his old self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane-McKenzie Posted November 6, 2008 Report Share Posted November 6, 2008 Considering the defense in front of him, I'm extremely surprised to see his stats so high... You beat me to it! I was thinking that about quite a few of the guys on this list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koreysecord1992 Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 I think most of the guys on that list will find their stride as the year progresses. Gerber, Osgood, and Biron...they're sv% may climb a bit, but I wouldn't be surprised if it hovers around or just below .900. Luongo seems to allow 0-1 goals or 4, so I don't know what the deal is over there - Idon't get to see many western teams in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl-1 Posted November 7, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Luongo just had is second shutout in two games last night, so it looks like he's back on track. Theodore appears now to have become the backup (once again) to... Brent Johnson! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreekHockeyCoach Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Luongo just had is second shutout in two games last night, so it looks like he's back on track. Theodore appears now to have become the backup (once again) to... Brent Johnson! If that's the case he's a very expensive back up, I believe he's making 4.5 mil a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zenderjetta Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Luongo just had is second shutout in two games last night, so it looks like he's back on track. Theodore appears now to have become the backup (once again) to... Brent Johnson! Who's Brent Johnson? No really, I've never heard of the guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl-1 Posted November 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Who's Brent Johnson? No really, I've never heard of the guy. A 31 year old career backup. http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8462161 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 A 31 year old career backup. http://www.nhl.com/ice/player.htm?id=8462161 Is he? I thought he was a starter in St Louis? I remember him playing one or two full seasons (not sure if their starter was injured at the time). But Theodore doesn't surprise me at all, he's been so horribly inconsistent, I thought he was a brutal choice for Washington. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roy_133 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Is he? I thought he was a starter in St Louis? I remember him playing one or two full seasons (not sure if their starter was injured at the time). But Theodore doesn't surprise me at all, he's been so horribly inconsistent, I thought he was a brutal choice for Washington. Yeah he became their starter for a brief period after Turek kept flopping in the playoffs and they dealt him to Calgary. I actually think Brent had 3 shutouts in one playoff series (02 first round against Chicago). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jl-1 Posted November 8, 2008 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Yeah he became their starter for a brief period after Turek kept flopping in the playoffs and they dealt him to Calgary. I actually think Brent had 3 shutouts in one playoff series (02 first round against Chicago). Pretty much a career backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dintrox12 Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Luongo has been playing good as of late. I predict he will be the starter on the 2010 Olympic team. Add Kipper, in Calgary , to the list of goalies that are not living up to expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 I actually think Brent had 3 shutouts in one playoff series (02 first round against Chicago). I don't think he's a terrible goalie, with the exception of 06-07 he has always had a save percentage above .900. Looking at his stats though, he only had one 60ish game season, I thought there were more than that. And what you said sounds reasonable, in 10 playoff games one season, he had 3 shutouts. But bringing up shutout statistics always makes me laugh because of who holds the longest shutout streak in the NHL: Brian Boucher. And actually he's played 2 games this season, both shutouts. Pretty much a career backup. he had his chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Luongo has been playing good as of late. I predict he will be the starter on the 2010 Olympic team. Add Kipper, in Calgary , to the list of goalies that are not living up to expectations. He'd be the obvious choice. Brodeur's been great for Canada in the past, but I think it's time to bring some young blood in there. Luongo should be there in 2010, likely as the starter. Price should be there (probaly as backup or third string, but if he has a long playoff run this year, you never know), and the other goalie will probably be one of Fleury, Ward, or Leclaire. Thing is, less and less of the great goalies are Canadian than they used to be. Behind Broduer and Luongo, all the good ones are young guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonave Posted November 17, 2008 Report Share Posted November 17, 2008 I was looking at the bottom in stats amongst starting goaltenders and I was shocked to see the following: Marty Turco (DAL) 4.34 GAA, .837 Sv% Martin Biron (PHI) 3.58 GAA, .882 Sv% Jose Theodore (WAS) 3.44 GAA, .877 Sv% Kari Lehtonen (ATL) 3.44 GAA, .903 Sv% Pascal Leclaire (CBJ) 3.41 GAA, .885 Sv% Martin Gerber (OTT) 3.39 GAA, .891 Sv% Chris Osgood (DET) 3.38 GAA, .879 Sv% Roberto Luongo (VAN) 2.97 GAA, .901 Sv% The only thing they have left is brodeur o, sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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