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Inspired by the negative thread, I figured it'd be fun if we made a team similar to the all-time team but with all the "stinky" players that never made it...The 1st round busts and the like...Allow me to provide you with an example to get things started:

LINE 1: Terry Ryan, Matt Higgins, Jason Ward

LINE 2: Normand Baron, Randy Bucyk, Danny Geoffrion

Line 3: Patrick Poulin, Jeffrey Teal, Josef Balej

Line 4: Pierre Sevingy, Glen Skov, Scott Fraser

DP 1: Dave Wilkie, Janne Niinimaa

DP2: Brent Billodeau, Christian LaFlamme

DP3: Marko Kiprusoff, Howard McNamara

G1: Andre Racicot

G2: Pat Jablonski

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Don't forget Lindsay Vallis?

God what was with Savard and his love of the Seattle Thunderbirds

Bilodeau, Vallis and Turner Stevenson ... only Stevenson had a career at the NHL level

Our Draft picks from 1988-2001

Andre Savard started to turn things around draft wise with Hainsey and Komisarek in 2000, 2001

But Serge Savard and Rejean Houle are really to blame for our troubles for the past decade ... poor drafting has meant there's been little to no prospects coming up

1988 - Eric Charron NHL Games: 130, 3 with Canadiens

= Nobody of Note drafted later

1989 - Lindsay Vallis NHL Games: 1

= Could have had Kevin Haller, Olaf Kolzig, Adam Foote

1990 - Turner Stevenson NHL Games: 644, 400+ with Candiens, not really a bust

= could have had Brad may, Keith Tkachuk, Martin Brodeur, Bryan Smolinski

1991 - Brent Bilodeau NHL Games: 0

= could have had Martin Rucinsky, Glen Murray, Ray Whitney

1992 - David Wilkie NHL Games: 167, 91 with Canadiens

= nobody of note drafted later

1993 - Saku Koivu Nuff Said

1994 - Brad Brown NHL Games: 330, 13 with Canadiens

= could have had Rhett Warrener

1995 - Terry Ryan NHL Games: 8

= could have had Jerome Iginla!!!, Martin Biron, Peter Sykora, Marc Denis

1996 - Matt Higgins NHL Games: 57

= could have had Daniel Briere!!!, Marco Sturm, Marcus Nilson

1997 - Jason Ward NHL Games: 336, 105 with Canadiens

= could have had Marian Hossa, Brenden Morrow

1998 - Eric Chouinard NHL Games: 90, 13 with Canadiens

= could have had Robyn Regehr, Mathieu Biron, Simon Gagne, Mike Van Ryn, Scott Gomez

1999 - Alex Buturlin NHL Games: 0

= could have had Alex Auld, Mike Commodore, Jordan Leopold

2000 - Ron Hainsey NHL Games: 260, 32 with Canadiens (not a bust, starting to play good)

= could have hadd Alexander Frolov, Brad Boyes

2001 - Mike Komisarek (start of good drafting)

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As well as Doug Wickenheiser, remember him, we picked him over Denis Savard.

This one has to rate as the all-time #1 dud we were ever so sadly saddled with!And to think that his niece has been such a splendid example of what we expected from Doug!?

If I were to get into listing some of my all-time least favourite Habs,I would definitely start that list with ,(after Wicky)Rick Chartraw and the equally useless Rick Green.There probably were several less talented members of the Habs over the years but none frustrated me more than those two!As a matter of fact,had it not been for the fact that choosing Wickenheiser meant passing on Denis Savard,I would have no problem placing both of these guys way ahead of Wicky on my hate list!

Thank God for giving me sooooo many great players to love and admire over the years that I didn't have to dwell on the dis-taste of the "Twin Ricks"for too long! :rolleyes:

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This one has to rate as the all-time #1 dud we were ever so sadly saddled with!And to think that his niece has been such a splendid example of what we expected from Doug!?

If I were to get into listing some of my all-time least favourite Habs,I would definitely start that list with ,(after Wicky)Rick Chartraw and the equally useless Rick Green.There probably were several less talented members of the Habs over the years but none frustrated me more than those two!As a matter of fact,had it not been for the fact that choosing Wickenheiser meant passing on Denis Savard,I would have no problem placing both of these guys way ahead of Wicky on my hate list!

Thank God for giving me sooooo many great players to love and admire over the years that I didn't have to dwell on the dis-taste of the "Twin Ricks"for too long! :rolleyes:

Haha Chrome, that's why I mentionned Wicky. Us old guys remember that draft all too well. As you state, that has to rate as the #1 dud of all time.

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Haha Chrome, that's why I mentionned Wicky. Us old guys remember that draft all too well. As you state, that has to rate as the #1 dud of all time.

It always boggles my mind that they took Wicky over Denis Savard. On paper Savard was as good as Wicky if not better. Wickenheiser really only had the one good year in juniors (his last), while Denis was consistently getting better every year. And Savard was clearly the fan favourite.

Considering he passed away from lung and brain cancer at the age of 37, I've always pondered if perhaps ... just perhaps between his last year of junior and his first years with Montreal that somehow his game was effected by the on set of brain cancer.

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Wickenheiser never got a fair chance. Obviously we were fools to pass on Denis Savard in the draft, but Wickenheiser could have had a nice NHL career if he'd been coached properly.

Other members of Team Stinker:

Randy McKay

Patrick Traverse

Sergei Berezin

Kark Dykhuis

I disagree with Wickenheiser.

He had alot of talent and a big body, all the tools, but he lacked the "upstairs" part to be a professional hockey player.

Ours was not the only team he did not excel on.

His is a tale that expalins why teams look at other things besides skill and conditioning when they draft.

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I disagree with Wickenheiser.

He had alot of talent and a big body, all the tools, but he lacked the "upstairs" part to be a professional hockey player.

Ours was not the only team he did not excel on.

His is a tale that expalins why teams look at other things besides skill and conditioning when they draft.

Which is why I wonder if the fact that he developed brain cancer played any role in his decline?

He apparently was amazing at the junior level ... then got to Montreal and seemed to be a different player

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Terry Ryan should not be on the list. He did not turn out to be a bust, he actually took a puck in the throat < against Philly > and was unable to play again. Find another guy.

Trent McCleary was actually the one who took a puck to the throat...He wore #6 and he took it while blocking a shot by then Flyer, Karl Dykhuis in 2000.

Terry Ryan was MTL's 8th overall pick in the 1995 draft and was one of Serge Savard's all-time busts.

http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app?page=His...mp;service=page

http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app?page=His...mp;service=page

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Terry Ryan should not be on the list. He did not turn out to be a bust, he actually took a puck in the throat < against Philly > and was unable to play again. Find another guy.

Can't comment on the puck in the throat .. but .. he played another 5 years of pro hockey in the IHL and AHL after his last appearance in a Montreal uniform

So, no puck to the throat didn't stop his career ... he simply wasn't cut out for the NHL

http://www.legendsofhockey.net:8080/Legend...sp?player=10732

Actually Mojo just posted it was somebody else who got a puck to the throat

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See, I didn't even know that !!!!

Lung and Brain cancer are what Wickenheiser passed away from at the age of 37. Granted that was almost 20 years after his NHL debut, so it might be a bit of stretch medically but I've always wondered since his death if brain cancer had any role in his inability to play at the NHL level.

If you read old press clippings and the musings of his old coaches he apparently had incredible skill and vision ... yet never seemed to demonstrate that at an NHL level. He was one of those guys who played on teams as an under-age player, so he had something going for him at one time.

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If you read old press clippings and the musings of his (Wickenheiser's) old coaches he apparently had incredible skill and vision ... yet never seemed to demonstrate that at an NHL level. He was one of those guys who played on teams as an under-age player, so he had something going for him at one time.
Yes, RIP, Doug.

I knew a similar example as far as talent never fully making it in the NHL -- went to school with Dave Simpson, Craig Simpson's older brother. Dave ripped up the OHL, was OHL and CHL player of the year, got drafted fairly high, but then could never catch on with Islanders, nor Canucks. Weird.

I nominate the Habs team that showed up at the ACC to play Toronto on Saturday. :D:lol:

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Andrei Bashkarov

Juha Lind

Craig Darby

i like this thread, really shows why the organization hasnt done squat since 93

The idea of this thread was; to quote another cherished Montreal institution: "Just for Laughs"...It was meant to be if you could have your pick of the worst, who would you pick for your team. Unfortunately some people see it as an opportunity to take a Ruutu style cheap shot at the organization itself...I'd prefer if those people would trade in their Habs jersey for Leaf "Cry-Baby" blue.

Mods if you want to close this feel free...Captain Buzzkill took all of the fun out of it for me.

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The idea of this thread was; to quote another cherished Montreal institution: "Just for Laughs"...It was meant to be if you could have your pick of the worst, who would you pick for your team. Unfortunately some people see it as an opportunity to take a Ruutu style cheap shot at the organization itself...I'd prefer if those people would trade in their Habs jersey for Leaf "Cry-Baby" blue.

Mods if you want to close this feel free...Captain Buzzkill took all of the fun out of it for me.

hey we havent lifted silver in 14 years i think some crying should be allowed,

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