concreteveins Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Just curious to see what everyone beleives is the problem on the power play. I think it is the loss of Kovalev's half board magic from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHaul Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 no threat from the point. Without it teams simply key on Kovalev and the cross ice passes. There's no one out there on the point to keep teams "honest". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohboy Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 I voted for 'needs a new system' but what I really meant is that we need to go back to our old system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubbles_TPB Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 What we need is 5 Kovalevs out there. They can cover one Kovalev, but 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohboy Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 What we need is 5 Kovalevs out there. They can cover one Kovalev, but 5? OR Kovalev - Sundin - Kovalchuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357908_1475251331 Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 i don't usually engage in the mystery of the PP, but to me its like a puzzle game, and either you concentrate on getting it done, or you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted December 13, 2008 Report Share Posted December 13, 2008 Its the shot, We got none Markov is the passer, who sets up that big shot, he is now forced into taking one, when he doesnt feel comforable doing sooo. He then misses the net most of the time..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruuvimeisseli Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 We need a slap shot at the blueline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicochetII Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 We don't have a power play, so how can there be anything wrong with it? Seriously though, that pretty much sums it up. Kovalev is covered well and the cross ice pass is being guarded against. How is the Dogs' power play? I think we have enough players out that we can call up the entire unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habs-24 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 more shots on net, less bone headed passes through 600 legs, less individual efforts, less no look passes, less of brisebois,less of sergei K, etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
74Kos-yn-31Price Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Our biggest problem is that the referees keep calling penalties against the other team... after the whistle on a penatly one of our players should just slash the other team for a 4-4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarker78 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 First of all the habs have a bunch of passers(playmakers) and no true goal scorers and the only real point presence is Markov.Second because the PP is struggling so bad that the players confidence is down.Third it is actually going to take a bit of luck for them to get anything going this season on the PP unless there is a roster change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK74_mtl Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 First of all the habs have a bunch of passers(playmakers) and no true goal scorers and the only real point presence is Markov.Second because the PP is struggling so bad that the players confidence is down.Third it is actually going to take a bit of luck for them to get anything going this season on the PP unless there is a roster change. Playmakers: Koivu, Tanguay, S.Kostitsyn, Kovalev (Can snipe but he's more of a Playmaker), Plekanec (What is he considered?) Grinders: Kostopolous, Lapierre, Begin, Dandenault, Latendresse, Lang Goal-Scorers: Andrei Kostitsyn, Patrice Brisebois (LOL ), Higgins, C.Price Am I missing anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I truly don't think personnel is the issue. That could explain a drop from 1st overall to 5th, to 10th, or even to 15th (middle of the pack). It simply can't account for us going from the most lethal PP last season to almost the worst PP in the league this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SK74_mtl Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Speaking of Powerplay.... What the hell kind of strategy are we using? Did you see that one tonight where we had players circling at the half-boards passing the puck back, they did the pass back 6 consecutive times before turning it over. That was only ONE example and there was others! What kind of strategy is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js2 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Missing our hardest shot on the point(Andrei Kostitsyn) which Carbonneau refuses to give more than one chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicochetII Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Missing our hardest shot on the point(Andrei Kostitsyn) which Carbonneau refuses to give more than one chance. Didn't you know? You have to be a top four defenseman to perform that duty on the power play. Carbs. If you are listening, do this now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Didn't you know? You have to be a top four defenseman to perform that duty on the power play. Carbs. If you are listening, do this now. While having a hard shot is all fine and dandy, the key to a good PP shot is it being accurate and getting through the traffic and on net. Since we're not at the practices, I guess we have to take the coachs word that he doesn't have an accurate shot otherwise, it makes 0 sense not to put him out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 While having a hard shot is all fine and dandy, the key to a good PP shot is it being accurate and getting through the traffic and on net. Since we're not at the practices, I guess we have to take the coachs word that he doesn't have an accurate shot otherwise, it makes 0 sense not to put him out there. Lang's shot isn't any more accurate than AK46's, yet he's been used on the point. AK46 has the hardest slapshot on the team. Familiarity with playing the point on the PP only comes with time. I would put Andrei on the right point and leave him there for 15-20 games regardless of the results. Why not? Can our power play possibly be any less effective than it is now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicochetII Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Lang's shot isn't any more accurate than AK46's, yet he's been used on the point. AK46 has the hardest slapshot on the team. Familiarity with playing the point on the PP only comes with time. I would put Andrei on the right point and leave him there for 15-20 games regardless of the results. Why not? Can our power play possibly be any less effective than it is now? That's basically justification for doing anything we want to the power play right now. It can't get much worse, so why not? AK on the point makes sense though. I like his shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koreysecord1992 Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 I'm agreement with Weep. Business as usual won't the team anywhere but further from the Bruins in the standings...in the wrong direction. It's times like this when you begin tinkering with combos and systems. After one or two bad games you think "Eh, it's just a funk, they'll find themselves," but after 30 you'd be blind to not realize there's a serious problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habulator Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 no threat from the point. Without it teams simply key on Kovalev and the cross ice passes. There's no one out there on the point to keep teams "honest". QFT - it sure would be nice to have someone like Streit on the back end....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry-Launstein-Jr Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Who among our forwards can we put back there along with Markov with a big shot and run this power-play Geoffrion-Harvey style? I think this is where we miss Streit from last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innis_Mor Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Add "All of the above" to that poll list, and you've got my selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruuvimeisseli Posted December 14, 2008 Report Share Posted December 14, 2008 Lang's shot isn't any more accurate than AK46's, yet he's been used on the point. AK46 has the hardest slapshot on the team. Familiarity with playing the point on the PP only comes with time. I would put Andrei on the right point and leave him there for 15-20 games regardless of the results. Why not? Can our power play possibly be any less effective than it is now? I agree. Playmakers: Koivu, Tanguay, S.Kostitsyn, Plekanec, C.Price Grinders: Kostopolous, Lapierre, Begin, Dandenault, Latendresse, Lang Goal-Scorers: Andrei Kostitsyn, Patrice Brisebois Higgins, Kovalev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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