RicochetII Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 http://penguins.nhl.com/team/app/?service=...rticleid=402856 Contract is estimated at $16M for four years. Couldn't find the source on it, but nhlscap already has the numbers up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynch_mtl Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 I guess Shero has decided having amazing depth down the middle is more important than having a real first line winger. But they overpayed him. 4mil a season is a lot for a third line center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Innis_Mor Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 I guess Shero has decided having amazing depth down the middle is more important than having a real first line winger. But they overpayed him. 4mil a season is a lot for a third line center.Not disagreeing, but the Habs' third line centre is making that, albeit, for one year more only. Then again, he's the team's top scorer, so ..... Yeah, you'd think they'd get someone besides Dupuis to play with Crosby. Some games, I actually feel a little sorry for Sid. (I said a "little" .... ). Of course, they could have had Esposito there for Crosby next season, but they threw him into the Hossa deal, so keen to overpay, they were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Stupid move IMO unless they move Malkin to the wing. Still they have 47 million commited for next season already with a cap coming DOWN and 7 UFA's and 1 RFA. Have fun Ray!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 Hello Tampa Bay Lightning, Part Deux. They now have $35.5m tied up in six players for the next 4 years. That leaves (depending upon who you believe for the cap # next year) anywhere from $15-20m to divide between what, 16 players? Ouch. Im not saying Staal may not be worth this in the future (although with 91pts in over 200 games he's not yet) but surely this team has to see they cant keep these high priced players and manage to have a good team fleshed out around them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 they have 47 million commited for next season already with a cap coming DOWN and 7 UFA's and 1 RFA. And Opik & Whitney are the only 2 dmen they have signed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteenIsThaFuture Posted January 8, 2009 Report Share Posted January 8, 2009 And Opik & Whitney are the only 2 dmen they have signed... Well Goligoski will be a cheap resgin but still they screwed..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Hello Tampa Bay Lightning, Part Deux. They now have $35.5m tied up in six players for the next 4 years. That leaves (depending upon who you believe for the cap # next year) anywhere from $15-20m to divide between what, 16 players? Ouch. Im not saying Staal may not be worth this in the future (although with 91pts in over 200 games he's not yet) but surely this team has to see they cant keep these high priced players and manage to have a good team fleshed out around them... Yes, but I don't think it's necessarily a big deal, because most of it is in "good" contracts, meaning that if the Pens need cap space, most of these players will be very easy to move, even in a cap world. If Pittsburgh finds a way to keep them all, then they do; otherwise, you trade and get great return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gracie12 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Yes, but I don't think it's necessarily a big deal, because most of it is in "good" contracts, meaning that if the Pens need cap space, most of these players will be very easy to move, even in a cap world. If Pittsburgh finds a way to keep them all, then they do; otherwise, you trade and get great return. Interesting point, Graeme & I agree to a point. $18m is to Malkin & Crosby so obviously those 2 could be moved to pretty much any team in the league, regardless of their salary. Im not sure that the contracts to Staal ($4m), Whitney ($4.5m), Orpik ($3.75m) or even Fleury ($5.25m) are that easy to move. Thats not to say they arent necessarily worth the money, but if you're an opposition GM you're going to want to be giving some major salary back - none of those players (save Fleury if he can get his game back & maybe whitney if he can settle down defensively) are going to make you bend over backwards to get them onto your team IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 I think this is a great deal for Pittsburgh. I wonder if Jordan Staal might break out into Jeff Carter-type numbers in the next few seasons. He has alread shown to be a strong, physical, smart center, and $4 million/season is a bargain in today's hockey market. Good signing. I am jealous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tony1234 Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 This is a smart signing. This kid is better than his numbers suggest, and could be the number two guy if a Malkin or Crosby get moved. Keep in mind that at that price for four years he becomes a commodity that many teams would be willing to pay a very handsome price for. He is very good defensively, is big strong and physical, and many believe he has a very huge offensive upside which makes this deal a steal. If his offensive prowess comes as much as some suspect, this kid is better than Carter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Time will tell, like everything else, But i think they need some cheaper players, as come on that much $ tied up in soo few players.. Kinda sucks to have 2 Greats on 1 team. hard to afford them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted January 10, 2009 Report Share Posted January 10, 2009 Im not sure that the contracts to Staal ($4m), Whitney ($4.5m), Orpik ($3.75m) or even Fleury ($5.25m) are that easy to move. Thats not to say they arent necessarily worth the money, but if you're an opposition GM you're going to want to be giving some major salary back - none of those players (save Fleury if he can get his game back & maybe whitney if he can settle down defensively) are going to make you bend over backwards to get them onto your team IMHO. That's true, but every team has contracts like that. Just because Pittsburgh also has Crosby and Malkin doesn't mean they'll escape these high, but fair deals. That said, I don't think Staal belongs in that list, because even if he's slightly overpaid, plenty of GMs would take it for his potential. I think Pittsburgh's downfall won't be the contracts themselves, but the reluctance of the GM to move star players. Tampa Bay had to hit rock bottom before they finally decided to move Richards. From a hockey perspective, were I Pittsburgh, I'd trade Crosby. I simply think Malkin is the better player. However, for marketing reasons, if either of the two go, it will be Malkin. Now if they trade Malkin they both get back almost 10 million in cap space and would get an incredible return (probably a top two dman, 4th dman, and a couple top six wingers: just what they need.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny_rudeboy Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I shake my head at the whole thing because in 4-5 years these young guys are going to be demanding even more money. Looks like inflationary salaries for young players to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted January 11, 2009 Report Share Posted January 11, 2009 I shake my head at the whole thing because in 4-5 years these young guys are going to be demanding even more money. Looks like inflationary salaries for young players to me. Not really an issue in a cap system though. Either the cap is rising so the increase in the salary isn't meaningful, or else you save money in other places. The cap prevents things from spinning out of control like they did early this decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zonave Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 hes going to be a pen for life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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