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"Avangard were losing 1-0 after the second period and assistant coach Igor Nikitin took over for the third. Avangard rallied to win the game 2-1 in overtime."

:lol::lol::lol:

I can't say as I've heard of this at any level. It is a rather novel way to try and spur on the team, mid-game. :lol:

Worked! :lol:

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"Avangard were losing 1-0 after the second period and assistant coach Igor Nikitin took over for the third. Avangard rallied to win the game 2-1 in overtime."

:lol::lol::lol:

I can't say as I've heard of this at any level. It is a rather novel way to try and spur on the team, mid-game. :lol:

Worked! :lol:

:) yeah funny that, eh?

I think this just furthers the impression in some North American hockey minds that the KHL isn't a stable option for hockey players.

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What a year for Jagr, first Cherepanov and now this.

I don't see the big deal, sure its out of the ordinary, but until we know if the coach was on a tight string coming into the game we have no basis on the situation. If he was never warned or anything then it would be dumb, but considering he didn't outlash at it, he must've known it was coming, just at an earlier time than expected.

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What a year for Jagr, first Cherepanov and now this.

I don't see the big deal, sure its out of the ordinary, but until we know if the coach was on a tight string coming into the game we have no basis on the situation. If he was never warned or anything then it would be dumb, but considering he didn't outlash at it, he must've known it was coming, just at an earlier time than expected.

It's just a poor way to conduct business is all...It'll defintely deter some from seeing the KHL as a viable career option.

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What a year for Jagr, first Cherepanov and now this.

I don't see the big deal, sure its out of the ordinary, but until we know if the coach was on a tight string coming into the game we have no basis on the situation. If he was never warned or anything then it would be dumb, but considering he didn't outlash at it, he must've known it was coming, just at an earlier time than expected.

Yea,your right.

It's really no big deal,just being brought up in conversation,does sound kinda odd. ;)

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It's just a poor way to conduct business is all...It'll defintely deter some from seeing the KHL as a viable career option.

It's odd, but so are some of the firings in the NHL.

NJ fired Julien right before the playoffs for no apparent reason (the team was in a good position).

Roger Neilson was fired because he took some "personal time" to have his cancer cured.

Barry Melrose was hired after not coaching for over a decade and then fired a quarter of a season later becase he didn't let the owners pick player's ice time. Then hewas replaced by a guy who was arrested and suspended for running a sports gambling ring.

There's plenty of wacky coach firings. Firing in the middle of a game is a new one, but which is worse: getting fired mid-game or taking a medical leave for cancer treatment and while on leave being told you no longer have a job to come back to? I'll go with the second, which also is the one that happened in the NHL.

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Why the KHL, I would think just Avangard would be avoided.
because you could be traded to Avangard Omsk...

It's odd, but so are some of the firings in the NHL.

NJ fired Julien right before the playoffs for no apparent reason (the team was in a good position).

Roger Neilson was fired because he took some "personal time" to have his cancer cured.

Barry Melrose was hired after not coaching for over a decade and then fired a quarter of a season later becase he didn't let the owners pick player's ice time. Then hewas replaced by a guy who was arrested and suspended for running a sports gambling ring.

There's plenty of wacky coach firings. Firing in the middle of a game is a new one, but which is worse: getting fired mid-game or taking a medical leave for cancer treatment and while on leave being told you no longer have a job to come back to? I'll go with the second, which also is the one that happened in the NHL.

yes, but there's so many other problems with the league... the most tragic of course was Cherpanov, but of course that's hopefully an extreme rarity that won't be repeated anytime soon...

but there's also the reported attempted payroll rollback because teams are having problems meeting payroll... I think Al Strachan said it was a 40% rollback attempt by the owners...

and there's the John Grahame situation, in which he allegedly was dumped by Avangard Omsk because he was drunk (often?)...

sure weird stuff happens in the NHL too, but then it's a case of 'the devil you know'...

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I'm pretty sure if they asked for a partial NTC applying only to Avangard, it wouldn't be too much of a reach reqeest-wise. It may cripple their organazations negotiating power with them, but it would be understandable.
you picked Avangard Omsk because we've heard about some of their problems, what if there are serious problems on the other teams we haven't heard about?... I know more than a few are having problems making payroll, a contract worth big money in the KHL may end up not being worth the paper it's written on... how does a player know the real situation he's getting himself into?...

I don't know if NTCs are allowed in the KHL, but even if a player got one, will the team/KHL honour it?... the players signed for X amount of dollars, yet the league still tried to get them to take a huge pay cut... it they find a legal loophole, you've got a binding contract that supposedly will keep the player out of the NHL until he's fulfilled its terms playing for a KHL team he didn't want to be on... what recourse does the player have then? the Russian legal system has a history of ruling in favour of the Russian hockey league (RSL or KHL) against the NHL, why think they wouldn't continue to do so against a foreign player?...

Grahame and Fleming were both touted as key North American additions to the KHL at one time... neither left in an ideal fashion so how does that make the KHL look from the outside?...

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you picked Avangard Omsk because we've heard about some of their problems, what if there are serious problems on the other teams we haven't heard about?... I know more than a few are having problems making payroll, a contract worth big money in the KHL may end up not being worth the paper it's written on... how does a player know the real situation he's getting himself into?...

I don't know if NTCs are allowed in the KHL, but even if a player got one, will the team/KHL honour it?... the players signed for X amount of dollars, yet the league still tried to get them to take a huge pay cut... it they find a legal loophole, you've got a binding contract that supposedly will keep the player out of the NHL until he's fulfilled its terms playing for a KHL team he didn't want to be on... what recourse does the player have then? the Russian legal system has a history of ruling in favour of the Russian hockey league (RSL or KHL) against the NHL, why think they wouldn't continue to do so against a foreign player?...

Grahame and Fleming were both touted as key North American additions to the KHL at one time... neither left in an ideal fashion so how does that make the KHL look from the outside?...

If a players signs a contract, I would hope he would have an agent search for a loophole and if his team breaches the contract unscathed, what keeps him from breaching it and going to the NHL?

Right now the KHL still remains a 2nd option for most players, if you can't get a job in the NHL Russia provides the more lucratuve deals, while they suffer from the economic crisis, most places are as well.

In terms of the legal system, the biasy could be somewhat expected, however if you want to get paid those are the risks you take.

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