BadBrains Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 http://www.rds.ca/canadien/chroniques/270050.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lroux Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 good luck in dallas begin, hope we find out what carbonneau had against you one day, cause your play and courage was deserving of permanent 4th line duties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrains Posted February 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=268795&...os=topStory_nhl The Montreal Canadiens have traded Steve Begin to the Dallas Stars for defenceman Doug Janik. The 30-year old Begin played in 42 games this season for the Canadiens, and recorded 6 goals and 4 assists. He is in his 9th season, having begun his career with the Calgary Flames before being picked up off waivers by the Canadiens prior to the 2003-04 season. The native of Trois-Rivieres, Quebec had a career-high of 23 points in 2005-06. "Steve is a gritty, honest player with a very strong work ethic," said Stars Co-General Manager Les Jackson in a statement. "He's good on the penalty kill and he is a competitor in every sense of the word. We think he'll be a very good addition to our group as we continue to fight toward the playoffs." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry-Robinson Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Does anybody know who this Doug Janik is? Is he a good defesive prospect? where is he playing now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubby31 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 All the best steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLightRonan Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Of note: Begin's cap hit: 1.057 mil Janik's cap hit: 0.500 mil I see this as less of a reflection on Begin's play (which was stellar) and more of a cap-clearing move. If Gainey's making a play for a big-name center, he now has both the cap room and the defense prospects to make the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrains Posted February 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Does anybody know who this Doug Janik is? Is he a good defesive prospect? where is he playing now ? Doug Janik Defense Born Mar 26 1980 -- Agawam, MA Height 6.02 -- Weight 210 -- Shoots L Selected by Buffalo Sabres round 2 #55 overall 1999 NHL Entry Draft http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php?pid=45066 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulin98C Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 I think this trade is good. I liked Begin as a HABS but with the emergence of our young guys (Pacs, D'Agostini, Stewart), this trade gives room to them. I beleive Janik has a 2-way contract so it is possible he will play in hamilton as our D is pretty stack. The trade therefore opens up a place on the 23 man roster. Good luck in Dallas Begin.. but go HABS Go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbraT Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 We Traded Begin for another D-man! Stever was the man! We didn't need another defenceman! In my opinion....we lost that trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King-Komisarek Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Of note: Begin's cap hit: 1.057 mil Janik's cap hit: 0.500 mil I see this as less of a reflection on Begin's play (which was stellar) and more of a cap-clearing move. If Gainey's making a play for a big-name center, he now has both the cap room and the defense prospects to make the deal. I agree. Although he had some off nights, he was a really hard working player and i'm sure many would agree. I get the feeling Laraque is also going to be traded, cause they were the two who spoke publicly about wanting to either play more or be traded, and that'd clear up much more space for BG to maneuver. I think we've got plenty of defensive prospects, so i don't really care about this Janik guy, wish we could've gotten a draft pick as well, even in a later round, but oh well. Thanks for all the grit you brought to the game Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulin98C Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 ASSETS: Plays a smooth, steady game along the blueline. FLAWS: Has a very limited offensive arsenal. CAREER POTENTIAL: No. 6 or 7 defenseman. http://forecaster.thehockeynews.com/hockey...player.cgi?1951 He does have a 2-way contract. Good trade, it clears a little cap space, opens a spot forward, makes rooms for something bigger to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadBrains Posted February 26, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 We Traded Begin for another D-man! Stever was the man! We didn't need another defenceman! In my opinion....we lost that trade Begin is UFA, he complained in public about ice-time and wasn't playing anyway. On top of that, he's making over $1 million this season. It was a money saving move and Gainey traded him at his own request. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newton-mtl Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 This trade can be properly judged only after the trade deadline, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabsAlways Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Courtesy trade for Begin Basically, sending Begin somewhere he'll get icetime for a DMAN who's heading to Hamilton http://canadiens.nhl.com/team/app?articlei...mp;service=page Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubby31 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Thanks for all the grit you brought to the game Steve. Yes,will miss ya big guy,good luck in Dallas. GOHABS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briangbv Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 This trade can be properly judged only after the trade deadline, obviously. Time will tell...for now, this is a "fail" for me. Lets hope this is not the big move. hahaha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koivu4PM Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 well, always liked you steve-o, so good luck in dallas... but don't do TOO good now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fourtrax Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 If this is a cap-clearing move in preparation for a big trade, I understand and approve. if this is just a courtesy trade for Begin, it's a mistake. It's no secret that I'm not Begin's biggest fan, but he's exactly the kind of energy depth guy who can be very useful in a post-season context. Why on earth do you trade him for an AHL-bound defenseman when you're in the thick of the playoff race? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Telly_39_s_1 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 Seems like a cap clearing move, though I certainly would have liked to see a draft pick head our way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarbraT Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 gonna miss you begin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skye770 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 What a stupid useless trade, ANOTHER d-man? Something big better be in the works after this trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_Champion Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 If this is a cap-clearing move in preparation for a big trade, I understand and approve. if this is just a courtesy trade for Begin, it's a mistake. It's no secret that I'm not Begin's biggest fan, but he's exactly the kind of energy depth guy who can be very useful in a post-season context. Why on earth do you trade him for an AHL-bound defenseman when you're in the thick of the playoff race? A courtesy trade is good, Bob takes care, somehow, of those he signs here, even if they end up not fitting into the team's plans. It's a good long-term image to project. The 4th line will now be a combination of Chipchura-Laraque-Stewart-Dandeneault, if Carbo plays them 7 minutes a game it should get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xtrememike12 Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 gonna miss you begin +1... im hoping its just for the cap space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownSugarl Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 A picture is worth 1,000 words (from the 08 playoffs vs Boston, Game 5) We're gonna miss you, Steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedLightRonan Posted February 26, 2009 Report Share Posted February 26, 2009 If this is a cap-clearing move in preparation for a big trade, I understand and approve. if this is just a courtesy trade for Begin, it's a mistake. It's no secret that I'm not Begin's biggest fan, but he's exactly the kind of energy depth guy who can be very useful in a post-season context. Why on earth do you trade him for an AHL-bound defenseman when you're in the thick of the playoff race? Last year, I would have agreed with you. But with Lapierre's drastic improvement, and Tom the Bomb, Chips, Dandy and Stewart playing their hearts out every game (not to mention MaxPac destroying guys every so often), I'd say we're awash in energy depth guys. I wouldn't say no to a little extra depth on D either - Josh Gorges is the only defenseman on the Habs who is younger than 30 years old. Two of our current top 6 are over 38 years old, and most of our many prospects are still a year or two away from regular NHL action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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