DA_Champion Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 Bruunstrom wasn't a d-man, was he? offensive d-man i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 offensive d-man i think. TSN has Fabian Brunnstrom listed as "LW/RW." Is this the guy we are talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_Champion Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 My mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brisebois Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 offensive d-man i think. You're thinking wrong. He was playing on the wing throughout his pro career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flunky Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 I don't see why so many people have got so worked up over this signing. In fact, I don't see why so many people even care. (We're at three pages and counting) This is as minor a move as you can make, barely deserving of notice or mention. With S.Kostitsyn, Paccioretty, Stewart, Chipchura, D'Agostini and possibly Maxwell all graduating to the big club on a permanent basis next season, and with current contracts running out on Olivier Latendresse, Aubin, S.Gainey, Glumac, Lehoux and Flinn(12 forwards total), it only makes sense that Bob would begin looking for new farmhands to man the front lines. And as many have already said, even if he does turn out to be a Janne Lahti V2 (good one Weeps), all were out is a few bucks. No harm, no foul. Parting Shot: Although the spelling is obviously a little different, this is the second Mike Johnson that we've had in the last three years. PS: Welcome aboard Mikey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Anti-Senator Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 This is the problem with some of us habs fans, we are never happy with whatever Bob does. If he sign a player we all got pros and cons to every player. We make remarks of how bad a player(s) are before we ever see them play a sinle minute. If Bob is signing no one he is doing nothing, if he is signing somebody, then that player is not good enough. This is why players who are UFA's ultimately don't choose to come here. They hear the stories from other players, and from players who come out of the province of Quebec. The bashing of players has to stop before anybody is willing to give the Habs a second thought. Since we lost in the first round, I have heard nothing but complaining bout what a terrible job Bob has done and continues to do. Get over it we had a bad season, and yes I know we have had a bad decade, but without the continuing bashing of players and upper management, we will never stand a chance of getting any good players. Tanguay, and others are right now waiting to see who Gainey signs as a head coach and what the plan is going forward before signing. This is from a player who just finished a season with us. Imagine what it's like from players who haven't been here and never experienced what it's like to play here, only from the hearsay. Give Johansson as chance, he may play in the minors and if so hs contract is minimual, if not it's still only a rookie contract with bonuses. Great post. Could not agree more. Many Montreal fans are afflicted with a disease that makes them believe that they can be a better GM than the 30 that are out there now and certainly better than the one who occupies that position in the Canadiens organization, regardless of who he is. They also believe they can be a better coach. It is silly really and rather pathetic. Bob Gainey is a proven GM who is doing the best he can given the circumstances he has to deal with in Montreal. If anybody on this forum truly believes that he/she can do better then apply for the job. If the team is sold the position could very well become available. Otherwise you are just blowing smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357908_1475251331 Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 This is the problem with some of us habs fans, we are never happy with whatever Bob does. If he sign a player we all got pros and cons to every player. We make remarks of how bad a player(s) are before we ever see them play a sinle minute. If Bob is signing no one he is doing nothing, if he is signing somebody, then that player is not good enough. This is why players who are UFA's ultimately don't choose to come here. They hear the stories from other players, and from players who come out of the province of Quebec. The bashing of players has to stop before anybody is willing to give the Habs a second thought. Since we lost in the first round, I have heard nothing but complaining bout what a terrible job Bob has done and continues to do. Get over it we had a bad season, and yes I know we have had a bad decade, but without the continuing bashing of players and upper management, we will never stand a chance of getting any good players. Tanguay, and others are right now waiting to see who Gainey signs as a head coach and what the plan is going forward before signing. This is from a player who just finished a season with us. Imagine what it's like from players who haven't been here and never experienced what it's like to play here, only from the hearsay. Give Johansson as chance, he may play in the minors and if so hs contract is minimual, if not it's still only a rookie contract with bonuses. nah- you know what the problem is for me? working into a professional team takes time, and is a mental joust no matter which team differences one talks about. it is very challanging to win expediently in the nhl and forming and building with the competition the habs face is pennies not dollars in forward thinking. i'm for the criticism more than against it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted May 26, 2009 Report Share Posted May 26, 2009 TSN has Fabian Brunnstrom listed as "LW/RW." Is this the guy we are talking about? No he was a forward for the stars, i think he potted 3 goals in his first game, and almost had 4 but the refs dissalowed it for some reason. I rememeber as i was watching the game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drydenforprimeminister Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 Some great posts; This guy might be good enough for 2nd/3rd line duty and depth at all positions is never a bad thing. And I don't understand how this guy is taking away quality ice time from other guys his age. If you are going to be unhappy along that vein be P.O'd about Metropolit preventing Chips from getting some NHL playoff experience. I hope that Bob was on his way to Moscow or Vladivostok or wherever Perezhogin and Yemelin are to sign them, and maybe stops to chat with Valentenko and Koreenev on the way. Those are guys they need and now. Good post about everyone saying Bob's a bum now. One year removed from the first conf. title in a very long time and the guy is suddenly a moron? That's the kind of thinking that kill franchises. Hopefully they stick with the plan and bring the young guys along and can sign some true first line talent with the $31m Bob has lying around. Dissappointing that he has not signed any of the teams current UFA's though, especially Tanguay, he's the kind of guy you want to lock up for five years, at his age. Next 35 days should be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamkennelly Posted May 27, 2009 Report Share Posted May 27, 2009 who cares about this guy - seriously Habs do not need another 3rd line player..they have plenty of those... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hockey_gal89 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 who cares about this guy - seriously Habs do not need another 3rd line player..they have plenty of those... I agree with you, however, I'll wait to see what this guy can do before I judge...I still don't think this strengthen Gainey supporters case...All of his signings have been head scratchers at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totti-mtl Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 I know sweds we´ve havn´t been that good,exept for Naslund. But I think this guy was a steal by Bob. I was a bit surprised that Detroit let him go.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Totti-mtl Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 I ment I know the Sweds We´ve had in the past hasn´t been that great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgib21 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 I know sweds we´ve havn´t been that good,exept for Naslund. But I think this guy was a steal by Bob. I was a bit surprised that Detroit let him go.... Detroit doesn't let players go. 5'10,182..Great job BG,another soft,smurfish forward.Just what we need.Way to stay the course,with your tunnel vision.Don't let people who actually know the game influence your decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabHabit Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Detroit doesn't let players go. 5'10,182..Great job BG,another soft,smurfish forward.Just what we need.Way to stay the course,with your tunnel vision.Don't let people who actually know the game influence your decisions. It's a two way contract.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgib21 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 It's a two way contract.... Who cares.Let's get some real players here,instead of Andreas Dackell lite.This roster is full of 3rd and 4th liners,and # 5 and #6 d-men.I don't get the point of the constant signing of small minor league depth players.With BG in charge,this franchise is in deep trouble.Soon,we'll be happy with an 8th seed and 1st rd sweep if this management stays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_EQUALIZER Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Who cares.Let's get some real players here,instead of Andreas Dackell lite.This roster is full of 3rd and 4th liners,and # 5 and #6 d-men.I don't get the point of the constant signing of small minor league depth players.With BG in charge,this franchise is in deep trouble.Soon,we'll be happy with an 8th seed and 1st rd sweep if this management stays Ok, then who should he have signed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA_Champion Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Ok, then who should he have signed? Some subset of Koivu, Kovalev, Tanguay, Schneider, Lang and Komisarek. Trades for a top-2 center who is tall or a top-4 Dman would also be welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlgib21 Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Ok, then who should he have signed? what kind of statement is that :blink: . How about waiting for a real player instead of someone we totally don't need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_EQUALIZER Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 Some subset of Koivu, Kovalev, Tanguay, Schneider, Lang and Komisarek. Trades for a top-2 center who is tall or a top-4 Dman would also be welcome. Nothing major will happen until the ownership situation is resolved. Even if that is not the case, which I highly doubt, neither you nor I know what negotiations have or have not taken place. To get worked up about this signing is nothing short of overreaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE_EQUALIZER Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 what kind of statement is that :blink: . How about waiting for a real player instead of someone we totally don't need A logical statement following your rant. You obviously have some insight into this player that the rest of us don't have. You've obviously thoroughly scouted the player and are able to determine whether he will be a boon or a bust. You obviously have an alternative player from Europe in mind who we should of signed to a two-way contract. You obviously know that Anderson, Flinn, Glumac, Denis, Henry, Janik, Kemp and Lehoux are all UFA next year, not withstanding the 6 RFAs. You have obviously thought that resposnsibilities include the entire organization and not just the parent club. It's a signing, nothing more and nothing less. So, educate me, if not this player, then what other european player should Gainey have taken a flyer on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbarker78 Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Oh great yet another 5'10" under 200 forward,watch out NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twillightzone Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 I was very surprised to hear that detroit passed on this one! Mikael compared to Fabian (Brunnström) is a better hockeyplayer and brings flair, he can be a very entertaining guy. The question I have is the size nothing else really. That is what Fabian has compared to Mikael and maybe a bit more scoring touch (but that is pending on the role). A playmaker that is pacey, very good hockey sense but can take some chanses from time to time, is what this is and he never gives up and he can score too, not a lot but hey dont underestimate him either. One would want to see him dominate more often than he has in the last year (becouse he can). The talent is there, the drive and he always brings a smile to the game, can he take it to another level? perhaps and I hope he will. If he can adapt to NHL I can see a real fun and explosive line with Kostisyns. In my mind that would be a perfect fit. To all of you that havent seen a game played by Mikael or even one game from the SEL....respecfully...dont say a word please. This isnt a sure bet but its far from a bad move from Gainey if one knows anything about Swedish hockey prospects at all. Give it time and we shall see, if he busts out, my question is...what have been lost? Nothing at all, pretty cheap. I do understand Mikael who wants to try the NHL and make some money in the process but Montreal isnt the wisest descicion imo, ask yourselves why Brunnström chose Dallas in the end....you guessed it and I wonder if MJ knows what he got himself into here, poor B*****d, already cut down by a large ammount of the fanbase who havent seen him play one single minute. Almost makes one smile (or cry). Nobody wants a good young player for free, this is almost unbeliveble and what happens to anybody that isnt Canadian in Montreal. So very sad. Passion isnt knowledge. I hate to see him go from FBK to Hamilton and bet if thats the case he wont be over there more than 6 months before going back to FBK if Gainey lets him, where he can be appreciated and get another top chance for a SEL championship (he has 2 already). If he cant make it so be it. Nothing lost for either part, with todays cap finding young "cheap" talant is more important than ever in NHL. About the nr from SEL compared to AHL, its another league with vets that have won olympics, former NHL'ers, WC champs etc. In short a veteran dominated league. Another type of hockey too, much more organised and strict. Maybe less physical but more skilloriented. Comparing him to Zetterberg is a little unfair, after all it took Z a couple of years to be what he is today a superstar, besides he had both Yzerman and Lidström to mentor him his first years in NHL. It helped a little with all the other Swedes there too I think. Although I agree that Zetterberg and MJ have similar styles and that flairy pacy style, but Z was more allround. That doesnt mean that MJ is bad defensively but his true strength is offense and with some puckmoving defenders he is a perfect wepon. He is used to a style where his team is a puckpossesion team so I cant help but wonder what he would think of Montreal if there is another dissater year. Its fair to say that if you want to compare him to any current hab player its Sergei K. Saw that somebody tried a comparion with Dackell, not accurate at all. Two totally different players and roles, again think Segei, thats more accurate. One last thing about the points, MJ wasnt a regular used in PP. FBK this year had more or less 4 lines that all could be first, a very deep team indeed. Good luck and welcome to the Habs (hate to lose you to these "losers") God speed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babinator77 Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 I was very surprised to hear that detroit passed on this one! Mikael compared to Fabian (Brunnström) is a better hockeyplayer and brings flair, he can be a very entertaining guy. The question I have is the size nothing else really. That is what Fabian has compared to Mikael and maybe a bit more scoring touch (but that is pending on the role). A playmaker that is pacey, very good hockey sense but can take some chanses from time to time, is what this is and he never gives up and he can score too, not a lot but hey dont underestimate him either. One would want to see him dominate more often than he has in the last year (becouse he can). The talent is there, the drive and he always brings a smile to the game, can he take it to another level? thanks twillight. i've been waiting for you to weigh in on this signing. perhaps and I hope he will. If he can adapt to NHL I can see a real fun and explosive line with Kostisyns. In my mind that would be a perfect fit. To all of you that havent seen a game played by Mikael or even one game from the SEL....respecfully...dont say a word please. This isnt a sure bet but its far from a bad move from Gainey if one knows anything about Swedish hockey prospects at all. Give it time and we shall see, if he busts out, my question is...what have been lost? Nothing at all, pretty cheap. that's very exciting! considering the kostitsyns have the ability to play a more physical game, it sounds to me like these three could be great together! I do understand Mikael who wants to try the NHL and make some money in the process but Montreal isnt the wisest descicion imo, ask yourselves why Brunnström chose Dallas in the end....you guessed it and I wonder if MJ knows what he got himself into here, poor B*****d, already cut down by a large ammount of the fanbase who havent seen him play one single minute. Almost makes one smile (or cry). Nobody wants a good young player for free, this is almost unbeliveble and what happens to anybody that isnt Canadian in Montreal. So very sad. Passion isnt knowledge. I hate to see him go from FBK to Hamilton and bet if thats the case he wont be over there more than 6 months before going back to FBK if Gainey lets him, where he can be appreciated and get another top chance for a SEL championship (he has 2 already). If he cant make it so be it. Nothing lost for either part, with todays cap finding young "cheap" talant is more important than ever in NHL. i'm sorry you feel that way. there must be a way to get mtl out of the gutter. granted, it's ridiculous to criticize a player you've never seen play but i don't think it's anything personal against him but rather a reaction to the lack of "announcements" coming out of mgmt who have a new owner to find, a new coach to hire and a number of important signings to get underway before july 1st. i hope mj doesn't regret this decision and that he chose mtl because he recognizes how exciting it can be. i'm looking forward to seeing him play and hopefully in mtl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
911fred Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 If you havn't seen him play, then you can't judge him. Period. Now lets stop it with the "OMG GAINEY SIGNED A 5"10 PLAYER HES SO SMALL, omg! HE SUCKS" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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