kinot-1 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 In my world (the hockey world ) Malkin should be suspended because he broke the rules. He instigated a fight in the last 5 minutes of the game. It shouldn't/doesn't matter if he was "trying to send a message " or not, as he went after Zetterberg, (who was shadowing Crosby all night). Because he is Malkin, he won't be though as the league won't want to upset the Pitts fans or Lemieux. Too bad the league bends the rules for the stars. JM2C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Actually, hasn't the league already admitted they made a mistake by not suspending both of them because their jerseys weren't tied down properly, or something? Whatever... I don't have a problem with what Malkin did (and I'm cheering for Detroit). Malkin was showing some energy, and Zetterberg tried to, too. Good series so far, and that kind of stuff is just going to add energy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLSE_Mgmt_A_Disgrace Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 In my world (the hockey world ) Malkin should be suspended because he broke the rules. He instigated a fight in the last 5 minutes of the game. It shouldn't/doesn't matter if he was "trying to send a message " or not, as he went after Zetterberg, (who was shadowing Crosby all night). Because he is Malkin, he won't be though as the league won't want to upset the Pitts fans or Lemieux. Too bad the league bends the rules for the stars. JM2C Nah, we'll just watch Zetterberg flatten Malkin in the next game in return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-1 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 No way he should be suspended, that rule is stupid anyway, you should get suspended when you do something really stupid, not when you show emotions at the end of 1 game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
js2 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Suspend him. Can't follow the rules, then too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teststory Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Malkin has to create some room for himself out there on the ice. The way Detroit has harrassed him and Crosby in the first two games there could have been lots of penalties called against them that were not called. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leafs_rock_go_mccabe Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Malkin has to create some room for himself out there on the ice. The way Detroit has harrassed him and Crosby in the first two games there could have been lots of penalties called against them that were not called. Are you cheering for Pittsburgh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ForeverGuyLafleur Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 That rule was set there to avoid outbursts of violence at the end of a game, and Malkin really wanted to kill Zetterberg yesterday. If Malkin can't follow the rules, he should be suspended and the way he reacted should have meant out fo the balance of the series, period. IMO, I hate the NHL for their double standards and this has to be changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teststory Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 Are you cheering for Pittsburgh? Yes though I am not really a fan of either team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubby31 Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 No way he should be suspended, that rule is stupid anyway, you should get suspended when you do something really stupid, not when you show emotions at the end of 1 game. Hopefully,will ignite some fireworks for game 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindred Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 That rule was set there to avoid outbursts of violence at the end of a game, and Malkin really wanted to kill Zetterberg yesterday. If Malkin can't follow the rules, he should be suspended and the way he reacted should have meant out fo the balance of the series, period. IMO, I hate the NHL for their double standards and this has to be changed. agreed, if that had been a player like Aaron Downey getting into a fight in the final 5 minutes they would have booted him for the rest of the series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColRouleBleu Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 It seems that the rules book used in the playoffs in general but specially in this final is totally different than the one used in the season. Why suspend Malkin for a fight when Crosby is crosschecking to the head without even getting a minor ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-1 Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 If it was Matt Cooke who did that instead of Malkin, he would already have been suspended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinot-1 Posted June 2, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 It's all about marketing the star players, and we can't have a star player out for a crucial game of the finals now can we? Buttman wouldn't show his face in Pitts for the next 5 years. I really had to laugh when they asked Bill Guerin if Malkin should be suspended. Of course he said no,,,,can you imagine if he had said yes? (stupid reporter) There is NO way in heck Crosby, Malkin, Fluery, Datsyuk, Zetterberg, or Osgood will EVER be suspended in the finals. JM2C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teststory Posted June 2, 2009 Report Share Posted June 2, 2009 The rule sucks anyway. You should be able to defend yourself or your teammates. The rule was put in place to protect from goons, but it actually helps the goons as you can't go after them when they do something. Zetterberg was a real pest the first two games hooking, clutching, grabbing, and in general just getting in the way of Malkin and Crosby. I don't have a problem with Malkin's reaction to that type of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry-Habs-Fan Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Put it this way, if it was Sean Avery attacking Zetterberg like that he'd have been suspended in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teststory Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Put it this way, if it was Sean Avery attacking Zetterberg like that he'd have been suspended in a heartbeat. If it was Avery he should be suspended as his only purpose would be to get said star player off their game by harassing them. In this case said player is a star and plays the game clean. He was just fighting back against the harassment he was receiving from the Detroit players who were attempting to shut him down by harassing him as much as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmash Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 This case is a tricky one. On the one hand, what happened was not what the rule was put in place for and the rule does have an asterisk beside it. I'm not sure this is a case of the player involved directly. The rule by its nature was prejudiced against goons because it was put in place to prevent a coach from sending out the goons to do damage at the end of a lost game. But in this situation it's obvious Malkin was just angry. The NHL has shown favouratism in the past, but I don't think that's necessarily the case here. Were it some fourth liner not known as a vicious player, it would have been the same result. That said, it's pretty ridiculous that the NHL has an asterisk beside every rule. There are no standards and they can do what they want. Given that they do have the powers to change the suspension, they made the right call. But at a higher level, why even give Campbell this job? Why not just "fight at end of game, get suspended". Sure, there will be a few 'unfair' cases, but it's a rule that can be stuck to and then there won't always be the debate "should he have been suspended"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry-Habs-Fan Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 If it was Avery he should be suspended as his only purpose would be to get said star player off their game by harassing them. In this case said player is a star and plays the game clean. He was just fighting back against the harassment he was receiving from the Detroit players who were attempting to shut him down by harassing him as much as possible. So we should have two rule books? One for star players and one for goons like Avery? Tough situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Nhl cant even stick to there own rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry-Habs-Fan Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 Nhl cant even stick to there own rules Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teststory Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 They should just remove the instigator penalty as it has never served it's purpose. All it has done is protect the goons who give cheap shots as you can do nothing to fight back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Habsin2008 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Rules shmooles, no court in the world (except for Saudi Arabia) enforces laws to a T - there's room for logic and subjectivity. Clearly Malkin wasn't being a goon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHaul Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Rules shmooles, no court in the world (except for Saudi Arabia) enforces laws to a T - there's room for logic and subjectivity. Clearly Malkin wasn't being a goon. Just because someone is extremely talented doesn't mean they can't display goonish behavior. Attacking and trying to intimidate the other team's star player at the end of the game is behaving like a goon. He should have gotten a game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefooligan5 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 In my world (the hockey world ) Malkin should be suspended because he broke the rules. He instigated a fight in the last 5 minutes of the game. It shouldn't/doesn't matter if he was "trying to send a message " or not, as he went after Zetterberg, (who was shadowing Crosby all night). Because he is Malkin, he won't be though as the league won't want to upset the Pitts fans or Lemieux. Too bad the league bends the rules for the stars. JM2C The rule is meant to prevent coaches from sending out their muscle at the end of a game for the sole purpose of sending a message as much as anything. I can fully understand why they didn't suspend Malkin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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