ironhorse Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I have a friend and a family member that grew up Habs fans and switched to Leaf fans just because they moved to Toronto!!! I don't get it...I've been living in Toronto for 29 years and I just hate the Leafs more every year. For me, being in Leafland really makes me hate them more when I see their stupid flags go up at the start of the season and then come down in November when it's obvious once again there's no hope...LOL WHAT obviously not a true habs fan. that is blasphemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bailey1 Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I have a friend and a family member that grew up Habs fans and switched to Leaf fans just because they moved to Toronto!!! I don't get it...I've been living in Toronto for 29 years and I just hate the Leafs more every year. For me, being in Leafland really makes me hate them more when I see their stupid flags go up at the start of the season and then come down in November when it's obvious once again there's no hope...LOL Hahaha! +1 Been living on the other side for 5 years. MTL4Life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ForeverGuyLafleur Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Nice pic, JB655. Of course you gotta hate them! This is team is utter rubbish for more than 40 years and yet they declare themselves the center of the hockey world. Coaching staff, GMs, players and fans from Toronto are the most classless people you can find on this planet and this was proven over the decades. The next song speak voices about what I think of the Leafs. Build a bonfire Build a bonfire Put the Leafs on the top Put Big Komi in the middle And we'll burn the freakin lot! *evil grins* :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobyk77 Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 Its funny whne most of my 'friends' that are leaf 'fans' say how they dont really hate Montreal, that they hate ottawa more. They then look at me waiting for me to say how I hate ottawa more than them. I always laugh an just reply "I cant help but hate your team, I'm programmed to." And it always makes me feel better about myself knowing I escaped the leaf tractor beam even though I live in the Toronto area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I think rivalries especially in todays age are overrated. How can you hate a team when the people change with time, what is the logo that ugly? If you hated a GM, a player, a coach etc. from the 80's, and they're not there anymore, how can you're hate still carry over? Its stupid. A good example of this is the Detroit-Colorado rivalry of a few years ago, now THAT was a rivalry, the players on each team really hated each other. Now.... they couldn't care less, because the teams changed with the years. You may hate Grabovsky or Komisarek, but those are new reasons to hate and not old reasons. To Firststar on hating the city, personally I don't buy that. A team is not representative of a city or a fanbase, its a representation of hockey and sport and purely that. It's more about how they are run, the faces in the management might've changed, but the results have been the same(up until recently). I also have a history with the City of Toronto, I have lived there and hated every minute of it. I am a hockey fan 1st, so why would I hate a a good hockey player, just cos he plays for the leafs? I actually feel bad when a good player gets stuck on the leafs (or any other bad team, I like to see good players excel, despite the team they play for). Management has ruined the leafs for many years, I think Burke has em (finally) going in the right direction. Leaf's made the same mistake as the blackhawks did 10 years ago. Traded away prospects and draft picks for present players, not thinking of the future came back to bite em in the butt. Blackhawks have finally crawled out of their costly gambles. I have a feeling that the leafs are on their way up as well. I really tried to cheer for the leafs when I lived in Toronto, not by choice, more out of default. I was always a true Habs fan, but Saturday nights consisted of a leaf games . So, to be part of the crowd and find comaraderie with friends and family. I tried really hard to cheer for them, when I wasn't watching a Habs game or when they weren't playing the Habs. As a hockey fan, I do honor past leaf greats. Not for the crest they wore on their chest, but for what they did for the game of hockey. I guess it's the same for the Bruins... Although there are a few players I can't stand, it's not the players (in most cases) that I don't like, it's the team. I think it has more to do with inner-family rivalry, I have family and friends who live in Toronto and Boston. I guess I get a sick joy knowing my friends and family have been knocked down a few notches, every time their team loses. In a nutshell, my dislike of the Bruins/Leafs has more to do with family rivalry. Although, I've been a lil closer to the leafs operations due to living in the city and following them for several years. Yes, I guess it is stupid to hate a team just cos of how they've been run in the past, but, those are my reasons, take em or leave em. This isn't a debate on how or why you should hate em, but the question of this thread was, "do you hate the leafs.." and I gave my reasons. I have a feeling in time I'll learn to hate Burke, just like I did other leaf GM's. But, where I use to hate leafs GM's due to incompetence, I'll probably start hating Burke for turning this sinking ship around. I'll never hate a player just cos of the logo he wears, you never know, they just might become a Hab someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I have a friend and a family member that grew up Habs fans and switched to Leaf fans just because they moved to Toronto!!! I don't get it...I've been living in Toronto for 29 years and I just hate the Leafs more every year. For me, being in Leafland really makes me hate them more when I see their stupid flags go up at the start of the season and then come down in November when it's obvious once again there's no hope...LOL I think Ace and I share similar motives for hating the leafs. Living in a hockey hotbed like Toronto or Boston (which I did as well when I was much younger) and cheering for their rival, is not an easy feat. Like ace said, you feel obliged to cheer for them, their paraphernalia shoved down your throat in ever bar, restaurant and every car who passes by with a leafs sticker or flag on it. It's even harder when your team isn't doing to well at the time and theirs does. But imho (and this is only my opinion), I feel where some teams have done great things for the sport of hockey, I feel Toronto with Ballard, did things to hurt the sport. Ruining careers just cos he had a personal issue with certain players. Ballard made money despite how the leafs did, so he took advantage of that and exploited players. That made me lose respect for the team, a respect I still lack today. You just have to watch the movie "Hockey Guru" with Mike Meyers to see how deep the hate for Ballard runs, still strong almost 20 years after his reign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kfourni Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 How could you hate the Leafs....they're so fun to beat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
habsfanfla Posted July 7, 2009 Report Share Posted July 7, 2009 I of course, can't speak for all Habs fans but as for myself, no I don't hate the Leafs. The reason is this, growing up there was a quote I read somewhere and can't remember who said it but the quote says that you can't hate someone you have no respect for. Detroit, Boston, yeah, I hate 'em,and I have respect for them, but the Leafs..no I don't think so. They have been bad for so long, how can you have respect for them and therefore hate them. It may come back at some point but right now...no. Ken Dryden wrote in his book "The Game" about the rivalry, it was after a Leafs game that the Canadiens of course won in Toronto, he said that this used to be a big rivalry but no more, the Leafs were no longer competition for the Canadiens the quote I believe was something like... "The rivalry doesn't exist anymore, the Leafs killed it" If you're upset because CBC shows more Leafs game than Canadiens games then your anger should be aimed at CBC not the Leafs. Someone at CBC is making that decision..... If Leafs fans have an attitude then your anger should be aimed at those fans.... Just my opinion....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montreal-mo Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 I think that this year the Toronto Maple Leafs vs. Montreal Canadiens will hit a new level of intensity. With Montreal having a couple of tough guys in Georges Laraque, Hal Gill, and Gregory Stewart. The Leafs jumped from not a very big or physical team to a New level of toughness adding Franois Beauchemin, Colton Orr and of course former hab Mike Komisarek. The rivalry will be the biggest rivalry in the league. I am sure that the Mikhail Grabovski vs. Sergei Kostitsyn will carry over to 09 - 10 season. And if you can remember at the end of the season there was a little bit of a scrum between Maxime Lapierre and Mike Komisarek, that could possibly turn into a rivalry between them. Get ready for a rough season between the 2 teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedome_mtl Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 I'm basically indifferent. There really isn't an intense on ice rivalry, it's mostly just hype. A lot of fans hate the Leafs because of the way the perceive the way the National media covers (favors) them. I think it's overblown and that the Habs get just as much hype these days as the Leafs do (obviously because of the size of the both fan bases across Canada it's what pulls in ratings). But to answer your question I think generally most really hated rivalries are built/nurtured in the playoffs. I hate Boston a lot more than Toronto. I'm curious as to how long you have been in a coma? If you don't see the excessive force-feeding of Makem Laffs on the rest of the country, then you have to have been in a coma or, simply only a part-time hockey fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedome_mtl Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Maybe the young fans do, but for me it's Boston and always will be, the leafs are nothing and like Guy Lapointe once said " they have been nothing since 67, so who cares"! Well I've been hating Toronto since I became a Habs fan in the early 50's....do I qualify as a young fan as you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedome_mtl Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 Losers Even After Forty Seasons Too Much Losing Thank you for finally clarifying what those letters stood for! Hey!I just noticed a milestone I have reached!This post brings me over the 1000 post plateau!(Pats himself on back and runs to get another glass of red.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chromedome_mtl Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 do i hate the leafs? if i type how i feel about them on this thread you will see alot of little stars then letters. Somebody mentioned that the CBC is responsible for their level of hatred of the Loaves.I can relate to that!For me,the stubborn emphasis on all things Leafs has created in me a deep distaste of anything Tarranna!I can't even stand to go there to visit our son and family or having to go there on business or anything. I would certainly commit suicide if I had to live there!That's how much I have hated the Leeks since I was a child in the 50's! Don't even get me started! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HabbiesMan Posted July 9, 2009 Report Share Posted July 9, 2009 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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montreal-mo Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 If I had to choose between going in to a room filled with Toronto Makes me laugh fans and cutting my whole body with razor blades and rolling arond in Tobasco sauce... It would be a VERY VERY VERY tough decision to make that I would have to spend more time deciding then Scott Niedermayer does when he thinks about coming back for 1 more season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FirstStar Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Maybe the young fans do, but for me it's Boston and always will be, the leafs are nothing and like Guy Lapointe once said " they have been nothing since 67, so who cares"! Actually, it's the older fans that still have the rivalry(50+). Since the days of the Adams division, our main rivals have been the Nordiques and the Bruins (a lil bit with Buffalo). The leafs/Habs rivalry died (for Montreal fans) with the expansion and when the WHA folded and the Nordiques joined the Adams division, almost over-night the Nordiques became our true rivals. Several years ago, the league purposely added more Habs/leaf games and stuck us in the same division to re-ignite the rivalry. The fact that we face the leafs more often has lead to family debates (in my case it has and I'm sure for other anglo's living in Montreal). I really think the leafs/Habs rivalry has more to do with family. How many Montrealer's have family in Toronto? I say that a lot do, so it's more about our aunts/uncles, cousins, nephews/nieces, etc... calling us (or email/sms) to remind us that the habs lost to the leafs the night before and us calling them when the Habs beat the leafs. I know that my family gatherings are always filled with who's better, Rangers, leafs, Bruins or Habs. So, to say the young fans are more into the leafs/habs rivalry is false. But I'm with you that our real rival is the Bruins (or has been for the last 20 years). We do have a rivalry going with the Sens, but it doesn't compare to the 20 years of having the Bruins in our division. For whatever the reason, there is a leafs/Habs rivalry. Although, I don't believe it runs as deep as the bruins/Habs rivalry. I guess it's safe to say that the leafs/Habs rivalry is more of an anglo rivalry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubby31 Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Well I've been hating Toronto since I became a Habs fan in the early 50's....do I qualify as a young fan as you say? Anyone that knows me,knows that I feel the same way man. Hate Those Leafs...Leafs Suck Actually, it's the older fans that still have the rivalry(50+). Almost giving my age away here...Almost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 12, 2009 Report Share Posted July 12, 2009 Hate Those Leafs...Leafs Suck You called???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtloki Posted July 13, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 hatethoseleafs, your name is classic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QbGamer Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 Yes those leafs.. We hate em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kronixx Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 damn rright we hate them i do anyways !!! hope lucic clobbers komisarek muhuhahahhahaha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlhabsfan_mtl Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 damn rright we hate them i do anyways !!! hope lucic clobbers komisarek muhuhahahhahaha he better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnyc Posted July 13, 2009 Report Share Posted July 13, 2009 YES!! I hate the Leafs, although you can also add Boston and Ottawa to the list of my least favorite teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc_123_msn_com Posted July 14, 2009 Report Share Posted July 14, 2009 hate them, but everyone knows both teams need each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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