ElCapitan_mtl Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 I posted this in another section, part of a response to someone suggesting we sign Bertuzzi. Someone suggested I post it as its' own thread to see the response, so here goes...... I've edited the Bertuzzi part out. It is clearly time the League needs to clamp down on violence. These are my suggestions. First off, to those who always use the argument, fighting is part of the game, no it is not. Read the rules. No where does it say a player may beat another player up. In fact there is a rule that says you can not and if you do you get a penalty. So point of fact, fighting is not and has never been allowed in hockey. The problem then is how to punish a player who fights. What the NHL has done over the last 25 years is to punish a player who fights another player who just cheap shotted one of his team mates. The enforcer. No more John Fergusons, no more Bouchards, no more Semenkos. Instead what we end up with is fighters who fight other fighters for absolutely no reason whatsoever other than to provide some fans with their fix....So now we have stupidity. Fighting of this nature needs to be removed entirely. Put in a UFC bout between periods if you have to for cripes sakes but this nonsense fighting is absolutely ridiculous and makes the NHL look laughable. Which leaves what I call "legitimate" fighting. This is the fight that breaks out after a Kasparaitis cheap shots Kostytsin and Laraque or whoever is on the ice with Kostystsin at the time grabs Kaspar and pummels his head in in revenge. This is a reactionary penalty, and deserves a five minute major penalty. The instigator should go to Kaspar for starting the whole problem. Note that it starts with the cheap shot. If it had just been a little trip or something and one of our guys retaliated by punching the other guy out, then yeah, he'd get the instigation penalty too. And that's when you eject him from the game. Either of these two incidences are better than the next.... .....the retaliation. This is where it gets ugly. Kaspar cheap shots Kostytsin, and we all look on in horror as Andrei crawls off the ice, but no one does anything. We don't react in the heat of the moment. That would be understandable. No we sit and brood and then all of a sudden in the second period, over an hour later mayber, wham, we hit Kaspar with a vicious head shot that knocks him out. This was not reactionary, in the heat of the game. It was cold. It was calculated. It was premeditated. This is suspension material. Three games minimum. And a hefty fine to player and coach. Then we get to the 'next game retaliation". This is the same as above but the payback does not come in the next shift or period, but in the next game, or even further on. This is even more premeditated than the above example and deserves a minimum 10 game suspension. This would have applied automatically in the Bertuzzi incident. Perhaps it would have made the Canucks think twice about retaliating. Beyond that they should bring in a rule that states that that if a player injures another player in any way that was against the rules, he will be suspended (or may be suspended) for the length of the injured player's injury. In other words, injure another player and you are out as long a he is out. Whoa, suddenly a whole new degree of respect between the players is reborn. There is a mentality among many players today that when you hit someone you do it to hurt him. Like Scott Stevens. Can anyone honestly say that when he hit a guy he was not trying to take him out. Injure him. And half the hockey world loved it, ate it up, praised the guy. I have nothing against Stevens. He was an awesome defenseman but was a product of his time. How he played has become acceptable, has become an example of how to play the game. Dion Phaneuf has a commercial where he basically says he is trying to hurt guys. But what about Lindros and the countless other guys Stevens and others like him have pounded away at until their careers were ended prematurely? It is becoming more and more obvious that this type of play, this attitude, has lead to more concussions and head related injuries than ever before. The solution can be found in the NFL I believe. Football, like hockey, is a rough and inherently dangerous sport. Both allow players to hit each other as part of the game. When banging into each other is part of the game it should be apparent that rules need to be implemented with regards to how and how hard players can do so. The NFL has long had an "Unnecessary Roughness" rule. The NHL should bring in a similar rule. I remember watching in horror as Brian Savage was hit and broke his neck. The announcers kept saying it was a perfectly good check, it was completely fair. All I could think is if the rules allow that, the rules need to be changed. The hit was textbook, a good clean hit. But there was no doubt it was excessively hard, and no doubt that it was going to hurt Savage. It was unnecessarily rough. Just like the countless headshots that Stevens dished out over the years. Finally I have been noticing a whole new trend in the NHL, one that worries me greatly. I wonder if anyone else has noticed this. It's a different kind of cheapshot. It's a tandem penalty. One guy hounds another player, and purposely blocks his view of his team mate coming in with the big hit out of nowhere. Pittsburg hit Koivu like that a couple of years ago in retaliation for Lapierre supposively butt ending Crosby at the opening face off. Don Cherry later showed frame by frame that Max's stick never even touched Crosby. But his teammates didn't know that and they wanted vengeance. They obviously decided to try to take out our top center, Koivu. One of them hounded Koivu all the way up the ice and then stops suddenly and his teammate is there to hit Koivu. The hit itself, while here is nothing wrong with it by the rules. But the whole notion that these two guys are working together to be able to deliver a check that sends an opponent to the hospital is very disturbing to me. They probably practice these plays. We lost another player like this this year. I'm think it was Kostytsin.... I think with these little rule changes, the game would be cleaned up considerably. Removing fighting entirely is not the solution. Bringing in a whole new level of respect between the players is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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